Learned'd VIII: Less Bewbs, Same Nonsense

[WDRacing]

Old Skool DT FTW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mipc-JxrhRk

[RicerX]

Old Skool DT FTW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mipc-JxrhRk

SO MUCH WIN.

[WDRacing]

I know right! There's an 8 minute version of that song on YT as well. Reminds me of this image...

[Kompresshun]

I've actually been to very few concerts in my life. I've always wanted to go to more, but never have gotten around to it. It always seems like when the good bands come into the area i'm booked up and can't go.

Last weekend we went to see The Sing Off Live Tour in Louisville though. I bought the wife tickets for Christmas because she absolutely loves the show. I personally am not a fan, even though the groups are super talented. I just can't keep myself from making fun of them. Plus I still think Nick Lachey is a colossal douche.

The show was still enjoyable though live and the main group that won on the show was hilarious.

The only other concert i've seen was Garth Brooks and it was nearly 20 years ago. Wow that makes me feel old. He was absolutely awesome live though. Dude is insane.

Other than that, ever other concert i've been to i've actually been on the tech crew for so I really haven't gotten to enjoy it. Mainly because I have usually been behind a camera, directing, or behind a lighting board and have to focus on everything else.

[WDRacing]

Gotta make the time brosef. YOLO.

[Kompresshun]

Meh, there's only a couple of bands i'd really care to see live though honestly. I'd like to see Aerosmith, The Black Keys, and Three Days Grace. Other than that, there's no one else i'm really willing to go be among an insane amount of crazy fans for. I honestly would not regret it if I had to miss out on it.

I've got plenty of more important things on my bucket list anyways aside from live music.

[Rogue One]

OK, I've only been to one concert. No snickering, it was Elton John.

[WDRacing]

Nothing wrong with Elton.

[Kompresshun]

SNICKER!

I can't hate on Elton John. He made some excellent music and i've heard he puts on a great show.

Funny story - We used to have a ensemble singer in my old church named Elton Johnson. I usually was a part of the video crew on Sundays during that time. I was on camera that weekend and the director always made cheesy jokes. So he says over the headset - "Hey camera 5, pan over to Elton John...son."

[RicerX]

I have been to the following:

Rush (x3 - Snakes and Arrows Tour, Time Machine Tour, Clockwork Angels Tour - hands down the best shows I've ever been to)
Dream Theater (Meet and Greet at the Black Clouds Tour 2009)
Metallica (loudest thing I have ever experienced as a human being... loved every second. Death Magnetic Tour)
Sevendust (x5 - I will go again too)
Breaking Benjamin (x4)
Avenged Sevenfold (x3, and sadly, never with the Rev on drums)
Eye Empire (go see them now)
Alter Bridge (x4)
Creed
Lamb of God
Shinedown
10 Years
Trivium
Slipknot (up there with Rush in stage production factor)
Coheed and Cambria
Chevelle (x2)
Finger Eleven
Nickelback (before I knew about life)
Genesis (was... like 3 years old)
Boston (was also 3. may have been 2. don't remember)

I have left many off because it will become a wall of text and ... yeah. We'll take it to the abandoned NICO Music forum.

[Kompresshun]

I had a brain fart earlier and couldn't think of the others, but you jogged my memory. Shinedown is a must for me, Metallica, and Breaking Benjamin. I guess honestly though, if I could only pick one for the bucket list though it would have to be Metallica. I've been a fan of their music all of my life and I couldn't imagine passing up an opportunity to see them live once. I know my wife would definitely not go with me though. She doesn't appreciate good music

[WDRacing]

I saw Metallica before they sucked a**, pre black album, I win.

[Kompresshun]

I saw Metallica before they sucked a**, pre black album, I win.

Indeed you do.

[AppleBonker]

I have been to the following:

Rush (x3 - Snakes and Arrows Tour, Time Machine Tour, Clockwork Angels Tour - hands down the best shows I've ever been to)
Dream Theater (Meet and Greet at the Black Clouds Tour 2009)
Metallica (loudest thing I have ever experienced as a human being... loved every second. Death Magnetic Tour)
Sevendust (x5 - I will go again too)
Breaking Benjamin (x4)
Avenged Sevenfold (x3, and sadly, never with the Rev on drums)
Eye Empire (go see them now)
Alter Bridge (x4)
Creed
Lamb of God
Shinedown
10 Years
Trivium
Slipknot (up there with Rush in stage production factor)
Coheed and Cambria
Chevelle (x2)
Finger Eleven
Nickelback (before I knew about life)
Genesis (was... like 3 years old)
Boston (was also 3. may have been 2. don't remember)

I have left many off because it will become a wall of text and ... yeah. We'll take it to the abandoned NICO Music forum.

Outside of Nickleback, I'm insanely jealous of that list. Add the Rev on one of the A7X shows and throw in AIC-Unplugged and Nirvana and that would pretty much be my ideal list I'd go through if I could time-travel.

[MinisterofDOOM]

My concert list has some win and some fail.

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers --This one was awesome...I was about 12 and there was a huge biker dude sitting next to me who made it even more fun...he kept trying to get me to sing along and didn't give up until I gave in.
Chicago -- Great music, but it was at an outdoor venue so the view was crap.
They Might be Giants -- These guys are hilarious.
And less for the music and far more for the company (curvy brunette) I saw Linkin Park and POD and some other "bands" I don't remember. Linkin Park was kinda lame, but POD were genuinely fun to watch. Funny thing is Linkin Park makes me cringe today, and back then I thought they were pretty good. I won't attempt to defend my bad taste.

I'm disappointed that I never got to see Elton John, Billy Joel, or Korn when they were in town...none of them have been back to Salt Lake in years and years.

[Heavy]

Went and saw The Black Keys at MSG a couple of years ago, was fahkin awesome. The opening act was the Arctic Monkeys who also played a hell of a show.

I also went to a People Under The Stairs concert at Gramercy theatre... Dope as hell. I got the most wicked contact high, the place was a ball of smoke.

[Dattebayo]

I saw Metallica before they sucked a**, pre black album, I win.

I liked the Black Album, it showcased some unique stuff that hadn't been heard before...
It wasn't really a metal album, but it was still better than listening to Garage Inc...

[RicerX]

I saw Metallica before they sucked a**, pre black album, I win.

I liked the Black Album, it showcased some unique stuff that hadn't been heard before...
It wasn't really a metal album, but it was still better than listening to Garage Inc...

I even liked Garage Inc and I think it gets a pass due to it being cover songs, though I can see the guys that were totally s*** over the Load/Reload style not liking the album because it was very much done in that style.

I'm one of those weird kids that always knew about Metallica, but never really started getting into metal and stuff until around the time S&M came out (and I heard Master of Puppets on that album for the first time) and napstered the s*** out of their back catalog to get caught up - from KEA all the way to Garage Inc.

[Kompresshun]

Same here. I got into Metallica right around the S&M album and then started collecting from there. I'm pretty sure I have every single Metallica song ever recorded before Death Magnetic. I have the Death Magnetic album somewhere on disc, but can't seem to locate it.

[Bubba1]

My concert list has some win and some fail.

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers --This one was awesome...I was about 12 and there was a huge biker dude sitting next to me who made it even more fun...he kept trying to get me to sing along and didn't give up until I gave in.
Chicago -- Great music, but it was at an outdoor venue so the view was crap.
They Might be Giants -- These guys are hilarious.
And less for the music and far more for the company (curvy brunette) I saw Linkin Park and POD and some other "bands" I don't remember. Linkin Park was kinda lame, but POD were genuinely fun to watch. Funny thing is Linkin Park makes me cringe today, and back then I thought they were pretty good. I won't attempt to defend my bad taste.

I'm disappointed that I never got to see Elton John, Billy Joel, or Korn when they were in town...none of them have been back to Salt Lake in years and years.

I've forgotten many of the ones I've been too, as we're talking looong ago before I killed off many brain cells. But a few of the acts I saw in concert

Bruce Springsteen (before he did stadiums)
Billy Joel (great show)
Harry Chapin (3 encores awesome)
Jefferson Starship (okay)
Blue Oyster Cult (verrrry loud)
The Ramones (loud and fun)
Patti Smith (awful)
Boston (good, not great)
George Thorogood (excellent)
Trans Siberian Orchestra (better than I expected. good show)

[frapjap]

Morning folks!

Nature is teasing us today and through the weekend. Temps are up in the 45-55 degree range. Its also sunny. But for the next 4 days, the rain is going to come down. I wanted to drive the Trans Am, dammit! I mean,I can, but its not the same when the windows are up and the roof is on.

One week until Costa Rica!!

[sx moneypit]

Mornin' Ray!
We are having some pretty strong T-storms down here,supposed to be in the mid 70s today.Tornado weather.

Wish i could head to Costa Rico right now!

[frapjap]

Keep an eye out for that sky to turn puke yellow and putrid green. That always makes my gut turn a little bit when I see it.

The thought of being away from work for an entire week with no possible contact is really, really awesome.
Also,that moment your expense check for 2 weeks traveling is larger than your paycheck....

[Kompresshun]

It's supposed to be fairly warm and rainy here today too. I was trying to get the top done on the Miata last night, but it didn't quite work out. I should be able to finish it up this weekend though at least.

I'm just ready for some warm weather. I'm tired of snow, rain, and cold.

So I have been after this '86 Ford Thunderbird 5.0 that my step-dad bought new for a while. He sent me an e-mail last night and told me he's finally thinking about selling it because he bought a new car, which i'm also quite jealous of. He picked up a 1990 Mustang GT yesterday that was garage kept and wait for it: With 47,000 miles on the clock.

He hasn't told me a price on the Thunderbird yet, but if the price is right i'm going to try to snatch it up. The problem is convincing the wife to let me have another car in the driveway

[WDRacing]

Buddy of mine had the turbo coupe version of that Thunderbird, thing was awesome!

[frapjap]

Friend of mine had the turbo coupe, too. It was quick, but man, heavy car! I love those turbo coupe hoods. Do you really want that Thunderbird over a different rumbly V8 car though?

Your step-dad is sure trading up! Is it a 5 speed? I'm curious to see what cars become classics in the classic car shows in the next 3-5 years as folks who can afford their high school dream car are coming up on some disposable income. The rarity of a nice Iroc, Trans Am, Fox body Mustang, 240sx, RX7, MR2, 300zx, even the older Civic SI's etc from the 90's are getting more and more rare and might be filling the 'classic' car show parking lots as they age up to 25-30 years old and were well taken care of an/or restored.

[RicerX]

Mornin' Ray!
We are having some pretty strong T-storms down here,supposed to be in the mid 70s today.Tornado weather.

Wish i could head to Costa Rico right now!

Hide all the Tennessee Zs!!! haha

I'm not looking forward to weather crap today. ugh.

[Kompresshun]

This Thunderbird has a V8 in it - it was an option on all trim levels. Same 5.0L they used in the Mustang. It uses the same platform and drivetrain too. Everything from a Mustang interchanges with it.

I want it because it's unique, but still rides on a platform i'm very familiar with. I mean come on - When was the last time you saw a mid-eights T-Bird built up really nice?

Well he has 3 other cars aside from the new Mustang anyways. He just wants to downsize some, because he's getting older and doesn't need them. He has the '86 Thunderbird Elan, a '00 Ford Ranger Ext Cab, and a 94 Lincoln Mark VIII. He's wanting to sell the T-Bird and the Mark VIII, then he's also planning on picking up a Lexus IS350 as well. For some reason he really likes them, so he's got a wad of cash sitting around waiting for the right one to come along.

He typically holds on to cars for years though. Aside from the new one, the Ranger was the last thing he bought and he's had it for 6 years. The T-bird he bought new and the Mark VIII he bought in 1998.

I think a lot of the 80's stuff will start bringing more money in the next few years too. I'd like to snatch up an older F-Body before they start jumping up in price too.

[frapjap]

I haven't seen a nice 9th gen T bird in ages. They all got ratted out. Do they handle better than the Mustang? It is unique and there certainly aren't very many of them, its just not as iconic as a Mustang. However, if its already in great shape and you don't have to do anything to it other than enjoy it and keep it from falling into disrepair, it will likely gain value over the years. Maybe that Ranger will fall into your hands later down the road.

F bodies are already climbing in value for a decent example that doesn't need any restoration. Hell, Hagerty values mine at 8k. The really valuable ones will be low mileage examples, top models, or rare models like the Iroc, convertibles, 1LE optioned cars, WS6 option, GTA, numbers matching, lightly or barely modded (this is getting harder and harder to find) and Firehawk models. I'm tempted to sell mine, buy a better optioned one, and hold onto it but that car wouldn't be my car, ya know? I should take emotion out of it and just start looking at cars like that as an investment.

I think now is the time to buy clean, unmodified
300zx's TT
240sx's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
GT Mustangs
FD RX-7s- think they're expensive now, just wait. I think this will be the one you buy but never really drive because it'll be so valuable.
1st and 2nd gen MR2's
F bodies
Vipers
LT1 sedans
C4 Corvettes
Hatchback Civics & Integra, especially SI or GSR models
F&F style Jetta
Second gen TSi Talons and GSX & GST Eclipses
3000GT VR4 and Stealth RT/TT
NSX- falls into the same category as the RX7
Supra- see RX7.

I think these will be lining the parking lots that the next generation goes to see in a local car show or cruise night. The value will likely climb and you'll get a really good return on investment for cars that don't cost much more than 5-8k right now. If you sit on them for 3-5 years and those guys with families and children get more stable and want what they couldn't have for years and will be ready to pay you the collectors price; likely in cash since loans aren't usually handed out for 20-30 y/o cars.

[Kompresshun]

That's why I want this one too. You never see a clean one. Last time I saw this one, it was sitting under his carport and still looked pretty decent. It's been 4 years since I saw it last though. It's always been a clean car though, so I imagine it is still in good condition with maybe some minor paint flaws. No rust though.

They probably handle about the same, but if I get my hands on it i'll probably upgrade the suspension anyways. My initial thoughts are a clean build, but upgrade the suspension, build up the motor a little, throw a turbo on it, shift kit in the transmission, 3.73 gears, then toss on some 17x8's in the front and 17x10's in the rear with some meaty tires.

There are so many cars from that generation i'd love to own. A C4 ZR1 or Grand Sport is on my list too, along with a 93 Cobra Mustang or a 89 Saleen Mustang.