Learned'd 3 - The Legend Continues - NSFW

[Encryptshun]

Despite what the NRA tells you, the vast majority of firearms-related crime involves guns that are in this country legally and were at some point, traceable. Guns are frequently stolen in home and retail invasions, laundered through pawn shops and unscrupulous gun stores, and a through a hundred other ways cross the line into black market territory. By correctly addressing the legal ownership and posession of firearms (not to mandate, but to regulate), you reduce the number of guns that end up making their way into the hands of those who use them for illegal means. It doesn't stop the problem, but it substantially reduces the frequency of occurrance. You make guns less available to the common thug criminals and the price goes up, which means they can't afford them, which means they are less likely to commit a gun crime, which means they are less likely to commit a crime at all (since there is a ton of evidence that many crimes are crimes of convenience, and posessing a firearm is enough to turn the pro/con ratio in favor of commiting a crime by reducing the likelihood of resistance by the victim and repercussion to the perpitrator.)

[AppleBonker]

By correctly addressing the legal ownership and posession of firearms (not to mandate, but to regulate)

While I understand what you're saying in the rest of that post, mind clarifying this? I thought we were talking about liability insurance? Or are you referring to something more broad here? Not being a d!ck, I just honestly didn't follow (give me a break, I'm malnourished).

[Encryptshun]

Totally get your confusion. I'm talking about economic rather than legal regulation.

Gun bans don't work at all, statistically. Banning guns makes them more valuable, which ensures more of them get on the street and more are then used to kill (I guess maybe to recoup the money spent getting the gun? I dunno). So, to me, a better way to regulate is by incentivising people to keep the guns they have safe and above-board. The insurance idea was, like I said, me just spitballing a solution.

[AppleBonker]

Gotcha, and I follow your logic. But how would requiring me to have insurance make me more likely to hang onto my firearm?

[ADDirishboy]

I've never understood people who think banning guns works. It just keeps firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens and allows criminals to rob places with no fear of that person being able to protect themselves.

Also, how is owning an AK better or worse than owning any other gun? Honestly, fully automatic weapons are useless if you're actually trying to kill multiple people. I can do significantly more damage with a semi-auto AR15 than I can with any fully automatic weapon. Full auto wastes more ammo and is drastically more inaccurate.

Most gun laws are s***. Libbys are afraid of guns for no good reason. Yes, i can go on a killing spree on some college campus and kill a bunch of people with an xd45 or some other firearm. but those are seriously screwed up individuals who do that kind of thing. You can't punish the entire gun owning population because of the stupid s*** people do. If that's how things worked, we should ban alcohol right now. I mean, some people get drunk and then drive their car into a minivan and kill 6 people. Obviously its the alcohols fault, right?

[Marenta]

Yes, I am pregnant.

Oh, and the Navy just crashed today. I love it when the end of the world happens every day.

[AppleBonker]

Gheyler, don't be retarded. Chad isn't advocating banning guns. I'm just trying to pick his brain on what he thinks might be a more effective solution.

If that wasn't directed at Chad, are there any other random tirades you feel like going on?

[AppleBonker]

Yes, I am pregnant.

Congrats. How far along?

[Marenta]

Only 5 weeks, give or take a day.

[Koshin]

negros, what is up?

[Dattebayo]

Bart is pregnant with Dee's demon spawn!

BTW, hows my old front end holding up?

[Marenta]

Looking good, he's wanting a K's Aero, and looking at getting a lip to plant the front end when he's doing above 30 mph, but, other than that.. things are going well. Except for his ceramic brakes, which had a SNAFU with it.

[Dattebayo]

lol snafu... I ate at that place in NYC once.

K's aero is not easy to find. I'm guessing he's gonna get a repro?

[Marenta]

We're looking for somebody that has one so they can go get a mold of it done so we can have one manufactured. The problem, is finding somebody who's willing to go get it molded.

[Koshin]

I can get you K's aero

[rb30dett]

Sup sup everybody?

[Marenta]

I might keep that in mind when I want to surprise Bart sometime with something he really wants. Maybe for Christmas or something like that, that'd be awesome.

[93coupe]

Banning guns will never work. I can come across illegal firearms quicker than I can legal ones. They will always be available to whoever wants them bad enough.

Sup fools?

[Koshin]

I have an idea, lets ban legal guns so only the bad guys can have guns illegally....funny concept

No on ewill ever take my guns from me...well maybe, bet they will have to TAKE them from me, and that would be difficult

[93coupe]

I'm the same way. They're mine.

I was doing some ammo inventory the other day and realized I have some super old .40 cal. I haven't had a .40 cal pistol in a long time. Then I started looking at it compared to 9mm. It's really not THAT much bigger.

[Encryptshun]

I might keep that in mind when I want to surprise Bart sometime with something he really wants.

That depends. Did you just surprise him about 1-2 weeks ago with something else he didn't expect?


And Tyler, I'm a "Libby", but I'm not anti-gun. Don't believe the hype, son. Not everything Glenn Beck, Anne Coutier, and Rush Limbaugh say is unbiased truth.

[Encryptshun]

I do find it funny that many of the same people who say banning guns will make the problem worse will, in the next breath, talk about how banning drugs is a great idea.

[93coupe]

Prescription drugs aren't needed. Just saying.

[Encryptshun]

Prescription drugs aren't needed. Just saying.

When Viagra is outlawed, only outlaws will take Viagra.

[93coupe]

They'll be doing stick ups to get their stick up...

[Encryptshun]

They'll be doing stick ups to get their stick up...

[AppleBonker]

Chad, you never answered my question above...

Prescription drugs aren't needed. Just saying.

Tell that to my worms...

[93coupe]

Adam, I told you to drink some bleach. But seriously, there is some alternative medicine for everything, worms included.

[93coupe]

White bikes are sexy

[AppleBonker]

Pretty sure the bleach would kill me too. And if you find an alternative, let me know. I've failed so far...