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Drifting in GT4
Excerpt from an article from Oct 2003 Wired magazine. Full article can be read starting 09/15/03 at http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.10/
"The man behind Gran Turismo is Kazunori Yamauchi ..... ..... Which is why Kazunori has come to E3 this year to announce that GT4 will have a new physics engine - the first overhaul since GT2 came out, in 1996. The game press will go on to debate whether the new GT physics formulas are really superior to those of its predecesors. But for Kazunori, the answer is clear: The game is better because it drifts better. So much better, in fact, that GT4 will have a brand-new Drift Battle mode: a D1-like event, with virtual judges scoring the contestants' competence and flair."
"The man behind Gran Turismo is Kazunori Yamauchi ..... ..... Which is why Kazunori has come to E3 this year to announce that GT4 will have a new physics engine - the first overhaul since GT2 came out, in 1996. The game press will go on to debate whether the new GT physics formulas are really superior to those of its predecesors. But for Kazunori, the answer is clear: The game is better because it drifts better. So much better, in fact, that GT4 will have a brand-new Drift Battle mode: a D1-like event, with virtual judges scoring the contestants' competence and flair."
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More On Drifting In GT4
More excerpt from drifting article in OCT 2003 Wired magazine. Entire article can be viewed at http://www.wired.com/wired/arc..._set=
"The man behind Gran Turismo is Kazunori Yamauchi, a handsome 36-year-old with a gap-toothed grin and a silver-flecked crew cut. Kazunori is a game industry legend. Gran Turismo set the gold standard for realism in 1998, and five years later GT3 still dominates the market. Gran Turismo is less a game than it is a simulator: Kazunori's ultimate goal is to make the perfect car-in-a-bottle, a virtual experience indistinguishable from actual driving.
The obsession has earned him a nickname: the God of Driving Games. It's also provided some outsize headaches. I meet with the man and his translator in a dim conference room at last summer's Electronic Entertainment Expo, the game industry's yearly confab. "In the virtual driving universe," he says, "drifting is a problem."
The issue is complexity. Unlike acceleration, cornering, and braking - which rely on basic Newtonian formulas - drifting is an esoteric confluence of g-forces, coefficients of friction, and vectors of velocity.
"On paper, the physics don't make sense," Kazunori says. "So our engineers couldn't understand it enough to make a formula." In theory, a car can no more drift around a corner than a bumblebee can fly. And yet in the real world, it happens.
It's easy to simulate drifting with a hack -- a slide-sideways subroutine, activated with a jiggle of the wheel and a pump on the gas, as seen in rival games like Capcom's Auto Modellista and Microsoft's Project Gotham. But to Kazunori, that's cheating.
"We cannot ignore physics," he says. "If GT has a realistic enough physics engine, a player will be able to accurately drift a car, whether the engineers understand why it slides or not. It is the goal and the proof." When drifting happens in the game, Kazunori's engineers call it "the miracle."
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"The man behind Gran Turismo is Kazunori Yamauchi, a handsome 36-year-old with a gap-toothed grin and a silver-flecked crew cut. Kazunori is a game industry legend. Gran Turismo set the gold standard for realism in 1998, and five years later GT3 still dominates the market. Gran Turismo is less a game than it is a simulator: Kazunori's ultimate goal is to make the perfect car-in-a-bottle, a virtual experience indistinguishable from actual driving.
The obsession has earned him a nickname: the God of Driving Games. It's also provided some outsize headaches. I meet with the man and his translator in a dim conference room at last summer's Electronic Entertainment Expo, the game industry's yearly confab. "In the virtual driving universe," he says, "drifting is a problem."
The issue is complexity. Unlike acceleration, cornering, and braking - which rely on basic Newtonian formulas - drifting is an esoteric confluence of g-forces, coefficients of friction, and vectors of velocity.
"On paper, the physics don't make sense," Kazunori says. "So our engineers couldn't understand it enough to make a formula." In theory, a car can no more drift around a corner than a bumblebee can fly. And yet in the real world, it happens.
It's easy to simulate drifting with a hack -- a slide-sideways subroutine, activated with a jiggle of the wheel and a pump on the gas, as seen in rival games like Capcom's Auto Modellista and Microsoft's Project Gotham. But to Kazunori, that's cheating.
"We cannot ignore physics," he says. "If GT has a realistic enough physics engine, a player will be able to accurately drift a car, whether the engineers understand why it slides or not. It is the goal and the proof." When drifting happens in the game, Kazunori's engineers call it "the miracle."
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TurboKA37 wrote:damn, that would be phat for xbox, they could make the graphics so amazing on it. and they would get a alot more sells. but if they did that i think ps2 would get nearly anymore sales
Sony has sold over 55 million PS2s worldwide (compared to under 9 million for the X-Box). Why on earth would Polyphony invest an enormous amount of time and money to port GT4 to the X-Box (which has the architecture of an outdated PC)?
i'd rather they put that effort into GT5
Quote »my only gripe is that I don't find the ps2 controller to be as friendly to driving games, probably because the lack of pressure sensitive trigger style buttons for the accel. and brake, but that's me[/quote] the ps2's regular buttons are pressure sensitive, but i know what you mean, it took me a while to get used to controlling a car with them. applying just the right amount of throttle during a drift was really frustrating in the beginning
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