and furthermore what gives him the right to go onto someone elses thread and bash his ideas for what he wants to do with his car?? Put a goddamn honda engine in your car ... I dont give ****! you bought it you can do what you want with it., put 57 chevy wings on the back ... I dont care...
Dont go onto someone elses thread and start putting their ideas down! It's not your car so shut your big fat mouth **** tard
Got my Car!
all i know is, is that my friend has a 1970 GTO that is really fast and has a ton more torque + horsepower than my car. he could smoke me in drag too. but he gets about 4-8 miles to the gallon. he also lost an oil cap because it blew off and sprayed oil on the inside of his hood, and the dipstick broke off inside the oil pan. somtimes it dosent start up quick either if it dies because the starter gets so incredibly hot that it cant properly send electricity. Also the clutch return spring dosent work so somtimes it stalls at low speed. I wouldnt trust the windshield wipers in rain either. also he has an exhaust leak at the headers because there arent enough bolts to properly hold a seal. and it weighs about 3800 lbs. i get about 30 miles to the gallon, but my car is really slow in dragrace. (being a hypocrite here because im spoiled and i dont have to pay for my own gas) but, "Who cares about gas mileage?" i sure wouldnt want to fill up a 22 gallon tank with premium every 150 miles.
oh yea, and you say they put 4 cyl motors into cars to save money? s2000/sti/lancer are grocery getters i suppose. and i might be going out on a limb talking about 6 cyl, but hey its still cheaper to make a i/v6 than a v8 right? i guess they were trying to save money on supra/nsx/skyline/vr4. oh, and rotaries are even crappier than 4 cyl since there 1.3 liter. rx7's must be even crappier than the carbed 45 hp crx honda put out in the 80s, i mean hell that has a bigger motor than 1.3 liters.
last time i checked, smaller motors were used to balance weight, not to "save money" (on sports cars at least, dont try to bring up economy cars like civic in which case your statment is correct
, but then again, i dont think we were comparing a civic to whatever v8 powered auto you may prefer)
last time i checked, smaller motors were used to balance weight, not to "save money" (on sports cars at least, dont try to bring up economy cars like civic in which case your statment is correct
, but then again, i dont think we were comparing a civic to whatever v8 powered auto you may prefer)Quote »last time i checked, smaller motors were used to balance weight, not to "save money" (on sports cars at least, dont try to bring up economy cars like civic in which case your statment is correct , but then again, i dont think we were comparing a civic to whatever v8 powered autoyou may prefer)[/quote]no we are talking about a 240sx which does barely classifies as sports car... infact I wouldnt even call it a sports car... probably a sporty econo car.
and if you think smaller motors are used to balance weight you are seriously kidding yourself.
and if you think smaller motors are used to balance weight you are seriously kidding yourself.
Quote »well i do, and i will use it to defend my little 4 banger that originally came out of a cheap truck in my car that is marketed toards young women[/quote]
Like I said ... you may care about gas mileage but that has nothing to do with this thread., the thread starter said he does not care about gas mileage so why open up your mouth in the first place?
Because you "think" you have something intelligent to say?
Like I said ... you may care about gas mileage but that has nothing to do with this thread., the thread starter said he does not care about gas mileage so why open up your mouth in the first place?
Because you "think" you have something intelligent to say?
HAR! Way to defend someone's right to do whatever the hell they want, guys. When it comes down to it, displacement will win. More power? More fuel + air. Sure you can push in 30 extra psi into a 4 banger for more a/f but guess what? You can do the same damn thing in a freaking W16/V12/V8. I'm personally somewhere in between. Six Cylinder RB. 
2 more cylinders, a bit more displacement, more potential than an SR, but much easier to maintain, put in my chassis, and lighter on gas than some gas-guzzling beast of yester-year.
To each his own and above all else, have fun.
When it comes down to it, displacement will win. More power? More fuel + air. Sure you can push in 30 extra psi into a 4 banger for more a/f but guess what? You can do the same damn thing in a freaking W16/V12/V8. I'm personally somewhere in between. Six Cylinder RB. 2 more cylinders, a bit more displacement, more potential than an SR, but much easier to maintain, put in my chassis, and lighter on gas than some gas-guzzling beast of yester-year.To each his own and above all else, have fun.
i think the bottom line here is that there is no definite...in anything. whether its cars, cooking, or girls, there are only opinions.
that being said i think there is great value in argueing the highlights of engines, or platforms, or whatever, but doing it like this gets you nowhere.
i think its great that the 240, or silvia, or whatever u want to call it is such a versitile platform that you have the option of a v8 swap. its why i like the 240 so much, along with nissan. there are a handfull of engines all made by nissan, all proven preformers, that you can swap into your 240. along with the plethora of available parts...when buying a 240 if u plan on modifying it, u really cant go wrong with this car. so why are we argueing again!?
that being said i think there is great value in argueing the highlights of engines, or platforms, or whatever, but doing it like this gets you nowhere.
i think its great that the 240, or silvia, or whatever u want to call it is such a versitile platform that you have the option of a v8 swap. its why i like the 240 so much, along with nissan. there are a handfull of engines all made by nissan, all proven preformers, that you can swap into your 240. along with the plethora of available parts...when buying a 240 if u plan on modifying it, u really cant go wrong with this car. so why are we argueing again!?
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Onizuka
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I was talking about turbo 4 cylindersQuote »How the **** does he know? is he an engineer? [/quote]as a matter of fact, yes i am, and i am currently studying to specialize in automotive engineering.89240sx wrote:yes and I was stating that it is cheaper to manufacture a 4 cylinder ... I was defending the V8 engineers because dumb**** says a 4 cylinder is much more advanced engineering, which is a blind statement...
Quote » He is just whining because his car is weak stock and that SR he goes outside and jerks off onto ... IS WEAK without the turbo , the only thing that makes that engine sortof fast is the turbo... has nothing to do with the fact that it is a weak cheap 4 cylinder. [/quote]
Im not whining about anything, im damn proud of my car and all the work that i have done BY MYSELF. If you say the SR is weak with out the turbo, then i say the V8 is weak with one head missing. Turbos dont just break all the sudden, they aren't just some sort of suplimentary object thrown on the car for the hell of it, they part of the engine system as it was designed. A turbo will continue to function even if it is damaged, it just wont work like it did when it was new obviously.
you arent even the one who argued so how can you come on here and change the subject to turbo 4 cylinders .... ?
of course the v8 is weak without one head what does that have to do with anything??
and I wasnt asking if you were an engineer ..... which you say you are .......which I don't believe.
the fact remains... the person who started this thread wanted to do something with the vehicle he bought or acquired in some way or another and people want to come on here and bash him for what he wants to do with that car he PAID or ACQUIRED for himself.
my point is ... he can do what he wants to the car when he wants to.
and the 4 cylinder engine is cheap thats why it is so highly manufactured and to say that a turbo is expensive to manufacture is also bull**** because all the costs of initial research have been spent.. the technology is there and car manufacturers can pump out those engines like postal stamps and if you think i'm wrong you are insane...
a car manufacturer gets a turbo for a lot cheaper than you can and thats a fact.
of course the v8 is weak without one head what does that have to do with anything??
and I wasnt asking if you were an engineer ..... which you say you are .......which I don't believe.
the fact remains... the person who started this thread wanted to do something with the vehicle he bought or acquired in some way or another and people want to come on here and bash him for what he wants to do with that car he PAID or ACQUIRED for himself.
my point is ... he can do what he wants to the car when he wants to.
and the 4 cylinder engine is cheap thats why it is so highly manufactured and to say that a turbo is expensive to manufacture is also bull**** because all the costs of initial research have been spent.. the technology is there and car manufacturers can pump out those engines like postal stamps and if you think i'm wrong you are insane...
a car manufacturer gets a turbo for a lot cheaper than you can and thats a fact.
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Onizuka
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Umm, blade mentioned the SR20DET at the very begining, smartguy89240sx wrote:you arent even the one who argued so how can you come on here and change the subject to turbo 4 cylinders .... ?
Quote »of course the v8 is weak without one head what does that have to do with anything??[/quote]dont ask me, your the one that brought up that a turbo 4 cylinder is weak without a turbo
Quote »and I wasnt asking if you were an engineer ..... which you say you are .......which I don't believe.[/quote]This on will be hard for me to prove over the web as transcripts have to much personal information, but then again, i dont have to jsutify myself to you, i am stating my OPINIONS just as you are.
Quote »the fact remains... the person who started this thread wanted to do something with the vehicle he bought or acquired in some way or another and people want to come on here and bash him for what he wants to do with that car he PAID or ACQUIRED for himself. [/quote]I never bashed him, go read all my posts. I even stated that i like V8 cars.
Quote »my point is ... he can do what he wants to the car when he wants to.[/quote]Im glad we can agree on something
Quote »and the 4 cylinder engine is cheap thats why it is so highly manufactured and to say that a turbo is expensive to manufacture is also bull**** because all the costs of initial research have been spent.. the technology is there and car manufacturers can pump out those engines like postal stamps and if you think i'm wrong you are insane... [/quote]your making yourself sound like a *** with this one. The domestic V8's your talking about are build on technology that was new to cars decades ago. Turbo 4 cylinders are still evolving and massive amounts or reseach is use for each new motor a manufacturer creates. Look at the motor/turbo design for the SRT-4, it is like nothing i have ever seen before. the 350 is a antique in comparison, not that there is anything bad with being into real oldschool.
Quote »a car manufacturer gets a turbo for a lot cheaper than you can and thats a fact. [/quote] oh wow, really? do they get all the factory parts cheaper than me? i would have never guessed. :rolleyes
V8's are still evolving and still being manufactured and secondly ... the 4 cylinder is highly manufactured because it is CHEAP not because it is better.
And who cares the SR is a cheap small weak POS ... it's hardly worthy of being called a sports car.
dont get mad cause you tried the "engineer" ticket and got called out.
And who cares the SR is a cheap small weak POS ... it's hardly worthy of being called a sports car.
dont get mad cause you tried the "engineer" ticket and got called out.
Never said I was "qualified" or an engineer
I was only sticking up for someone who had a great idea for his vehicle and wanted to share it ....so someone decided to be a little byatch because she didnt agree with his idea and try to insult him. Who cares if he calls the SR gay ... It is gay, its a tiny 4 banger with too much air and fuel...
I was only sticking up for someone who had a great idea for his vehicle and wanted to share it ....so someone decided to be a little byatch because she didnt agree with his idea and try to insult him. Who cares if he calls the SR gay ... It is gay, its a tiny 4 banger with too much air and fuel...
Quote »I will not argue with you anymore, unless you make your replys a little more techincal than that. I feel like im arguing with a little kid yet your probably older than me.[/quote]
Why even get technical? you probably would not understand anyway.
This thread isnt even about an argument it is about something someone wants to do with his car then the whiney crack whore$ came along and started in with their bull$hit, just apologize for fscking up his thread and get the fsck out.
Why even get technical? you probably would not understand anyway.
This thread isnt even about an argument it is about something someone wants to do with his car then the whiney crack whore$ came along and started in with their bull$hit, just apologize for fscking up his thread and get the fsck out.
Quote »such a mature response...[/quote]The "you are immature" response? that's it? you obviously have nothing so go jerk off on your gay little SR and leave this thread since it has nothing to do with you or your boyfriends. He wants to call an SR gay and put a V8 in his car.... let him..
what do you care? jealous?
what do you care? jealous?
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wow this is one of the sadest excuses for an arguement ever , aren't we all supposed to love cars here? what ever happened to having respect for cars and engines in general? there are excellent examples of both smaller displacement and large displacement engines doing crazy things like the ligenfellter 427 TT vetter , the Titan motorsports supra running 8.9 w/ a full interior still streetable , Secret Services puttin out I think it was around 539hp to the wheels on a stock bottom end. You guys need to just relax and enjoy what we all got on this site in the first place for
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Onizuka
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it is a sad excuse but im actually have fun
I have always been a advocate for diverse car enthusiasm on these boards, but is someone is going to harp on the SR20DET for no reason other than "its gay" i like to present some techinical information, just like i do when i defend hondas (which i do quite often when people hate on them for no reason, and i have never owned a honda)
I have always been a advocate for diverse car enthusiasm on these boards, but is someone is going to harp on the SR20DET for no reason other than "its gay" i like to present some techinical information, just like i do when i defend hondas (which i do quite often when people hate on them for no reason, and i have never owned a honda)
dude you need to cool it with all the offensive talk. the reason this thread is so long is because the guy said SR20 was a shilty motor, which did not need to be said. For example, i prefer the rb20 over the sr20, but im not going to call it a pos. v8s are cool if thats what you like too, i dont like v8s in low weight imports, but you dont see me spamming aries calling his car a junker. its all a matter of respect.