going to install a supercharge

[bedbull]

i;m going to try and put a supercharger on my ka24de i'm trying to get around 200-230hp do any of you guys think that is possible

[S13Ka24e]

It is possiable. You just need to be able to make room for it under the hood. Fuel would be handled with a FMU. So IF you can get it under the hood you will be fine.

[numatik]

I really wish there was an after market supercharger kit available for 240's. It seems like it would be viable option.

[UnderPressure]

i like turbo better. . . .adjust boost with controller, not changin pulleys, and being able to go from "low" boost to "high" boost in like 1 second is worth it to mec

[I am Technoman]

Here is a good hint.

relocate your battery to the trunk..

[bedbull]

i'm getting the supercharger off a toyota 4ag tz out of japan i'll let u all know how it works out

[95_240sx]

Hah, good luck.

Rick

[bedbull]

i have so far put on the supercharger beside the steering pump (welded on) then a bracket bolted on the exhuast manifold bolt then it is bolted on to the supercharger my next step is to get a fan belt then it is just piping then fuel tell u more next time

[SSDwellah]

You could change the boost without changing pulleys. You know how the dynamic chain tensioner works in the KA... somthing similar could be fabricated for the SC's belt. There's probably an even better way that I haven't thought up yet.

[bedbull]

i do not understand what you are talking about could you explain more

[EZcheese15]

i do not understand what you are talking about could you explain more

Like a snowmobile clutch. Or gocart.

[I am Technoman]

how about an a/c compresor clutch type pulley?

[numatik]

I'm not sure on this, but I think there are some cars (Mercedes? or maybe jaguar) that use an electric clutch to toggle the supercharger. Sorry about the vagueness.

I think relocation of the battery would make plumbing easier.

I plan on following this thread to the bitter end because I also am considering the prospects of a SC KA.

[bedbull]

well the sc off the 4asc engine has a electric clutch on it i'm planing to use the trottle position sensor to tell the sc when the engine is at idle so it will turn off, then something else from a friend to tell the sc when the engine hits 2000rpms so it will know when to turn on ....later i'll tell u guys more

[JESTER]

A man with a plan. At least he is making a go at it. Can't wait to see how it goes.

[numatik]

what type of cams would work well with a SC?

[TrunkMonkey]

what type of cams would work well with a SC?

stock.

superchargers aren't quite as picky with cams as turbochargers are, but still, try to avoid the long duration big overlap stuff.

-demetrius

[stunt_driver]

i think the root type supercharger might fit with no problems just would have to make a manifold for it im not really sure if it will fit tho but you can always do a vortech center type like the one on this maxima the problem i see with the center type is you would have to wait for the spool up like a turbo http://www.sromagazine.com/cars/profiles/lynn/

[SSDwellah]

No I don't think roots type would work well... consider an eaton type design for example... the pulley would have to face the front of the car and then the custom intake manifold would face the engine (to the right if you're looking into the engine bay) but the intake piping would face the firewall with little to no room... it's not the KA's fault, it would work in an altima because of the way the engine is mounted (90 degrees different), but in 240sx it is more feasible to use centrifugal vortech type supercharger

I had to edit this post to reiterate that I am NOT suggesting roots(eaton) style suprecharger... please read carefully. Also I have made a diagram in a few posts down.

[stunt_driver]

i see the centrifugal type working better also but the wipple or eaton type you would assume would be easier to mount and install its just a matter of making a custom manifold and belts and FMU maybe relocate the battery?? for the wipple and eaton but centrifugal seems to be alot more complex because most of them i seen have bypass or bov and air to water intercoolers installed on them the centrifugal is basically a belt driven turbo in my eyes but anything is possible good luck on the project

[bedbull]

i was thinging of making one but i could not find a small enough gearbox to turn the blower to the speed required so thats why i used this sc

[TrunkMonkey]

i see the centrifugal type working better also but the wipple or eaton type you would assume would be easier to mount and install its just a matter of making a custom manifold and belts and FMU maybe relocate the battery??

a centrifugal supercharger would be 100 times easier to install than a whipple or eaton type

for the wipple and eaton but centrifugal seems to be alot more complex because most of them i seen have bypass or bov and air to water intercoolers installed on them the centrifugal is basically a belt driven turbo in my eyes but anything is possible good luck on the project

there really is no difference between a centrifugal setup and a turbo setup. a bypass/bov on a centrifugal setup works almost the same as a turbo's wastegate, and you can use an air to air intercooler instead of water to air. the only real difference is how boost is produced. one is belt driven and the other is exhaust driven.

basically, boost is boost. no matter how it's made, it needs to handled the same way.

-demetrius

[stunt_driver]

oh yea you can always go with the powerdyne superchargers they are weak but your car would be supercharger just some more ideas for you

[SSDwellah]

Let me give you an example of why I don't think eaton type will fit.Check the link... as you see:

-the pulley would have to face the front of the car where our crank pulley is... no problem here

-the sc outlet would have to face the intake side of the engine (again no problem assuming you can fabricate an intake manifold that would bolt on to sc)

-the sc inlet would face the back of the engine bay... oops!!! How can we fit a say... 3" tube her to curve around the engine with the mafs and throttle body on it, because we sure as hell can't fit all of that in the back of the engine bay the way the motor's mounted now... so surely we'd have to loop around the engine (thus bringing the air filter and mafs to the drivers side of engine bay in roughly the same place it's oriented now) do you get it?

http://www.magnuson-products.com/superc ... sample.htm

I've included a rough diagram just to clarify...I know it's crappy, I made it in MS paint in like 5 minutes...

[stunt_driver]

powerdyne is a centrifugal type

[bedbull]

well guys i'm taking a break untill tomorro , i'll let u know whats going on soon , also i bought a digital camera so you will get pic soon

[SSDwellah]

stunt_driver, I was referring to this quote "i think the root type supercharger might fit with no problems "... I agree with your later post that centrifugal, such as a powerdyne is much better suited

[stunt_driver]

opps my bad

[TrunkMonkey]

powerdynes absolutely suck.

vortech or paxton are the only two centrifugal superchargers worth spending money on.

-demetrius

[stunt_driver]

thats why i said they are weak but whatever works works right it would be supercharged but they suck check out http://www.superchargersonline.com you can find the stuff you need on there