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stunt_driver wrote:thats why i said they are weak but whatever works works right it would be supercharged
so what you're saying is to settle for whatever. that doesn't make any sense. just like with anything else, if you're going to do it then do it right.

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Actually Powerdyne is coming around. There newer products are very dependable. They just use a slightly different design thats all. There only problem now is people without SC knowledge telling everyone they suck. Those people in turn purchase one from Vortech or Paxton. It's like buying shoes, people will always go with what they know, rather then try a different brand. But look at how many people are driving the new Tiburon. It just took Hundai awhile to get off the ground.

My personal opinion, I'll take Paxton. But only because it has a variety of trims that exceed the Powerdyne.

But I wouldn't buy a centrifugal type anyway. You have far to much lag. You don't full boost till your about to shift gears. That is a poor design in my mind. I would consider a KenneBell root style. You get instant boost at 2500 rpm. Plus I believe they've fixed the intake wrap around problem that posted earlier.

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Superchargers don't lag. Even Centrifugal ones. Response is immediate. They just don't boost as high at lower RPM's. But they are all full boost all the time. Yes, I know, it's semantics, but it had to be said...

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hey i found a company that made a supercharger for the ka the sohc one they made it for several ka trucks the website is http://www.BOOSTHEAD.COM the guy quoted me 3495 for the whole kit contact them they can make one for you

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C-Kwik wrote:Superchargers don't lag. Even Centrifugal ones. Response is immediate. They just don't boost as high at lower RPM's. But they are all full boost all the time. Yes, I know, it's semantics, but it had to be said...


Good point, lag would be the wrong word. Somthing more along the lines of, the linear boost curve is to slow for my liking, would be a better way to say that.

Thx for the correction C-Kwik...

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by SSDwellah "]No I don't think roots type would work well... consider an eaton type design for example... the pulley would have to face the front of the car and then the custom intake manifold would face the engine (to the right if you're looking into the engine bay) but the intake piping would face the firewall with little to no room... it's not the KA's fault, it would work in an altima because of the way the engine is mounted (90 degrees different), but in 240sx it is more feasible to use centrifugal vortech type supercharger.

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I saw an Eaton setup made for a Miata, they installed curved tubing from the rear and goes to the front with the filter. Seems OK, check it out: http://www.jacksonracing.com/pages/presspass.htm

Something like that could be done for the 240. The ideal thing would be to replace the whole intake manifold with an Eaton conversion...sweeet.

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sorry guys my pc went down plus i started the engine then i heard a knocking so i pull the bottom of engine, the bearings were ok then i checked the oil pump it looked like it was the problem so i will be getting one tuesday, so maybe by the weekend you will hear more about the sc

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here is a picture

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next one

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cant wait to see how the rest of the project pans out. keep keeping us posted and Good Luck!

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WDRacing wrote:Actually Powerdyne is coming around. There newer products are very dependable. They just use a slightly different design thats all. There only problem now is people without SC knowledge telling everyone they suck. Those people in turn purchase one from Vortech or Paxton. It's like buying shoes, people will always go with what they know, rather then try a different brand. But look at how many people are driving the new Tiburon. It just took Hundai awhile to get off the ground.

My personal opinion, I'll take Paxton. But only because it has a variety of trims that exceed the Powerdyne.

But I wouldn't buy a centrifugal type anyway. You have far to much lag. You don't full boost till your about to shift gears. That is a poor design in my mind. I would consider a KenneBell root style. You get instant boost at 2500 rpm. Plus I believe they've fixed the intake wrap around problem that posted earlier.

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Man, I checked the Kenne Bell supercharger and I think is a good option too for our engine. They made an application for the Miata, with a smaller engine and bay, and works great; it even has an intercooler. A kit with that same layout would apply for our cars; I already e-mail them.

Take a look:http://www.kennebell.net/

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well i connected everything up but having some electrical prob..so you will hear from me soon... p.s i turn on tthe sc at about 1500rpm at that point i got about 20lb boost so i'm longing to see what boost i'm getting when driving

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Man I hope you got the Fuel to back up 20 PSI of boost.

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i don't think i'll get 20 psi when i finally drive this thing

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Hey people, http://www.kennebell.net works with the twin-screw type supercharger and have a nice kit for the Miata. It's smaller and lighter than an Eaton, so it should be easier to adapt for the 240SX. I wrote them but the answer was "nothing available or in the works for your application", which is kind of strange when a usable kit is available.

I think that what they need to know is that there are people willing to buy it, so send your messages, maybe the quantity will convince them to, at least, test one. Alright, go ahead and ask them to at: [email protected]

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well i drove the vehicle got 5psi from rest but went down to 1psi at high rpm so i'm looking for a bigger sc to get more volume along with more psi

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Take a look at this S/C. I am in the prosses of putting my own kittogether, using this unit.


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Actually, there is a company in Tennessee that is really wanting to design and build 2 types of superchargers for the 240sx. A centrif. type and a roots type. The problem is, no will give them a car for several months for them to develop these kits. Anyway, their name is Superchargers of Knoxville. I dont have their number, i lost it. They should be in the directory since they have been around for several years. I know that the roots type charger they use is made by Whipple. The centrif. type is i beleive Powerdyne. It should be fairly easy to develop a kit using a centrif. type charger. The only thing to consider hard with it is some type of mounting bracket and where to place it as well as getting it lined up perfectly and balanced with the stock belt drive.

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well i'm waiting on the machine shop to make up the braket for a diff.. sc soon hear from me...... ps drift how much is that sc

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DriftNC26 wrote:Take a look at this S/C. I am in the prosses of putting my own kittogether, using this unit.


That seems like a nice centrif. unit, can you indicate where you got it, a website perhaps.

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Hey maxpsi, tell them to use the twin-screw type. It's smaller, and from what I've read, more efficient than the roots.

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The unit (with shipping) is about $2200 from Europe.

http://www.g-lader.no/komp.htmIs the site that you can look at the slection.However, if you are interested in buying one E-Mail me.

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That Rotrex supercharger looks very cool, seems small so it should be easy to accomodate.

I wish you good luck, and let us know.

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i have now put on the sc so u guy's will hear from me soon after some testing

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I am in knoxville and would be more than happy to volunteer my car for a few months. I'm in school and don't need it till I have to go home at the end of may. If you can get hold of them tell them I'm perfectly willing to let them use my car!!

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bedbull, is this a new blower you're bolting on? i hope so, there's no way that SC12 is ever going to be worthwhile on a 2.4-liter engine.

think about it; at stock boost on the 4AGZE it pushes from 145-160hp, depending on what version you get; about what a KA24DE already makes.

this would be why you're seeing boost at idle and having it disappear as the revs climb... the blower's not pushing enough air to keep the manifold pressurized.

if you pulley it to more than 20% higher than stock, you'll probably cook it; the seals on those rotors can't take a lot of heat.

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well the sc is off a 1g engine which is a 2000 6cyl

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Try a Powerdyne SuperCharger, its a tight fit, but i think it would work really well. I was thinkin of supercharging, but i think turbocharging is a better option

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WELL FIRST THING I ONLY WANTED I LITTLE MORE POWER TO DRIVE EVERY DAY AND ALSO TO PREVENT ME FROM TURNING UP THE BOOST WHICH I KNOW I'LL DO................P.S I TOOK IT FOR A DRIVE TEST YESTERDAY TOOK IT TO 105MPH IN THIRD THEN INTO FORTH THEN FLOORED IT AND WAS ABOUT TO PASS A SUV THEN HE CHANGED LINES ON ME AND I HIT HIM IN THE SIDE BUT I DID MY BEST SO THE DAMAGE WAS NOT ALL THAT BAD SO I'M FIXING THE VEHICLE BY WEEKEND SO I'LL GIVE IT A NEXT TEST DRIVE SOON

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damn, 105 in 3rd is pretty awsome. you must have had that thing redlined. i really dont know what a ka is like because mine was fried when i got my car. i wish i could do 105 in 3rd, but im waiting for a new turbo to come in, and i only got to drive my car twice before i had "problems".


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