Indeed. Come to think of it I still have a $5 deposit on Gran Turismo on the PSP from 4 or so years ago at Gamestop...OldmanPurdy wrote: That and PD dosen't have much of a track record of hitting release dates, this thread could very well have been called GT5 vs forza 3.
Yeah, I see GT as more of an "Arcade" game than Forza.xekushnr wrote:GT5 is still a year out too.
Anyone who says that Forza is more of an arcade game obviously has not played much of it.
I must have messed that part in the first 4 GT's. Must've been the anoying way they did the menu's. Stuff everywhere. Looked to me like they had no real organization there. I mean come on, it shouldn't take 2 minutes to find the car lots, race types you want, or the shops. Yet another reason Forza>GTany#. I'll take a little greatness with my hype thank you.hatchback240 wrote:have you never seen the tuning options in GT? you can tune suspension, gear ratios, downforce, braking, and pretty much everything else. its just as in depth tuning as you can find in forza, you just cant change the look of your car as much
I will have to somewhat agree with you. The GT menus are difficult at first, which I guess is not a good impression to make for a first time player. But after a while, it all becomes second nature. I am not sure if forza has this, but like driver challanges. That was a rather unique and fun spin off of the typical 6 cars driving around in circles.wa-chiss wrote:
Yeah, I see GT as more of an "Arcade" game than Forza.
I must have messed that part in the first 4 GT's. Must've been the anoying way they did the menu's. Stuff everywhere. Looked to me like they had no real organization there. I mean come on, it shouldn't take 2 minutes to find the car lots, race types you want, or the shops. Yet another reason Forza>GTany#. I'll take a little greatness with my hype thank you.
You are sooooo right on the HP/car restrictions, I always liked to run fair races but with GT4 you had no idea what you were up against till you jumped in, then you find the race grid has a bunch of 150hp cars and 2 400hp cars? Also something that neither Forza or GT has are custom races.......you know you pick a track pick the cars you want to race against the # of laps and go.DrJuice164 wrote:
Last rant, they just need to make the AI faster, or atleast let them use a tuned car. My tuned Z32 should not be keeping up with an R92CP, sorry but no. If they brought back horsepower restrictions like in GT2 and I think 3, that would be a plus and whatever happened to test driving cars. Spending a mil+ on a car that sucks, and you will only drive once, its just a big waste of time.
Modified by DrJuice164 at 9:42 AM 4/10/2008
For some reason GT4 did not have a load option if I recall correctly, only a save. Not really sure on the reason for this other than getting "free" cars out of the deal from one save game to another, something like that.redtop91 wrote:Something new I noticed about GT4 that they'd better fix in 5 is the savegames. It's a pain in the *** and a half to start a new save in Gran Turismo as there is no menu option for your save games (as far as I could find). To overwrite I had to take out the card, go through all 6-7 warnings about starting the game without a memory card, then start Gran Turismo mode, then finally get an option to create a new save, with still no option to delete my existing save. Fail.
Yeah, the P2P races I didn't like in career. But the downhill full course was fun for drifting. Forza drifters, you know what I mean. And the swaps got even better in F2. Now along with the engine swaps you get the drivetrain too. IE both my S13 & S14 have an RB26DETT in it as well as the AWD platform. The races in the beginning are limitless as of HP but as you go up in level/race types, they have class brackets; D, C, B, A, U, R etc. They have rivalries like Skylines vs Supras, WRX vs Evo, Golf vs Civic and so on. Forza brought a lot of "street" to the game in that respect. Plus the real life courses (not sure if GT has them) like Nurbergring (12.?? mile course), road atlanta, Road america, Mugello, silverstone, Tsukuba, etc. And the online is fantastic. Open class races, restricted class races, race with any car from your garage, or chose from the any car in the lot. You don't even have to race. You can go in any race to watch others. Auctions, save someone elses tune on any specific car, and "gift-a-car". Like, say one of your friends has a lot of money, he can upgrade a car for you, and then give it back to you. IMHO, GT5 could have the best graffics ever, I still would rather play Forza 2 cause the online friendly 360 pwnes all. (gaming platforms only) I know PC's are probably better.DrJuice164 wrote:I have not played much of forza, but the engine swaps were cool, and the point to point racing. The swaps I can agree with, but the P2P, that's kinda getting out of the realm of the GT series.
ARRRRG...... I was going to say that but forgot and couldn't remember what I was goint to say. I must have read my post 10 times and still couldn't figure it out. Thanks.redtop91 wrote:Not to mention Forza 2 doesn't even have point to point races...
ROFL. It's soo much easier to delicately brake and throttle with the triggers. If you can't see that then please do stick with Gran Turismo. Forza is too realistic for you.alms24sebring wrote:I hate forza cuz you have to use the wakas$ triggers for gas and brake. what ever happened to X and [ ]..
Dude common, tapping the brakes in Forza results in all tires locking up... Real my ***.redtop91 wrote:
ROFL. It's soo much easier to delicately brake and throttle with the triggers. If you can't see that then please do stick with Gran Turismo. Forza is too realistic for you.
Wow dude getting a little mad over a game? LOL well i guess i'm a noob but tapping the trigger means exactly that tapping, not squeezing the trigger down 3/4 of the way. I know how to play games dude i really dont know where you assume that I cant. For a stock car I really shouldnt have to mess with the brake controler to not instantly lock all 4 tires.redtop91 wrote:ROFL. The abundance of noobs in this thread is hilarious. You should look at the Telemetry report for your "Tapping" of brakes. It's more than likely 3/4 to full pedal travel and when you tap the brakes that's instantaneous lock. You should try slamming 3/4-full travel in your ABS less 240 and find out what kind of ditch you end up in. Also since you can adjust braking force and balance complaining about lockup is just because you are too much of a noob to setup your car correctly. Stop playing so much Gran Turismo. It's messing up your brains. You aren't going to convince me that you can do more delicate levels of braking and throttle with a button that has much less than a centimeter of travel (Any PS controller button) than the triggers on the 360 which have between 2 and 3 centimeters of travel.
Ok I never denounced the game, if a choice between which is better Its gt5 all the way sorry. Ok when entering a corner i lightly apply the brakes just as in every other racing game, result for me in forza is all tires lock up. Again dude never said i slamed on the brakes w/out abs, dunno how you missed that.redtop91 wrote:No actually. Just when people try to denounce a game for a flaw they think they've found but really it's user error I point it out. You failed bigtime one that one and I couldn't just leave that on the table.
Tapping is a quick, jerky action. I'm not saying the travel itself is the issue it's the sudden lock and release of the brakes. Everyone knows not to slam on brakes without ABS. I dunno how you missed the memo.
Thats it.redtop91 wrote:Maybe you just fail at driving?
Um not sure how im being a baby by refusing to argue with you. I have better things to do like aruge with a brick wall.redtop91 wrote:Ah don't be such a baby. If you want we can race and I'll show you the ropes.
I don't even want to know what aruging with a brick wall is but what you do in your own time is your business.Morph wrote:I have better things to do like aruge with a brick wall.
Start arguing with your self and imagine less annoying.redtop91 wrote:
I don't even want to know what aruging with a brick wall is but what you do in your own time is your business.
So you start dissecting my spelling seriously? Redtop dude get a girlfriend and annoy her.redtop91 wrote: Glad to see you are 1 for 2 on spelling arguing.
