ford 302 5.0 carburated fit into 240sx 90 ?

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maik21
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gracias chingon ... i will post more quality pics for the swap!! ... im going to install new water hoses and the radiator fan to today and the electrical system =)


Chingon
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como es carburado, recomiendo que quites todos los sensores, cables, etc..., que ya no se vallan a usar, para que quede super limpia la instalacion.. Chido, chido..

maik21
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yep... i remove the automatic trans wires, canister, ac.... ac radiator... all wires that i dont need.. !!!! a few 2 hours, i go to a yunk yard to buy a electric radiator fan... i put it between bumper and radiator.... more close to radiator, because i dont have any room to put between radiator and motor. ...

ralphdig
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Suena muy bien eso de un 302 en el 240SX espero que al terminar todo salga de pelos!Felicidades!

maik21
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ei guys... please , write in english, because its an english forum and other people maybe want to know what do you mean . =)) thanks !!! maybe at night of sunday my 240 will be finish =)

Chingon
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maik21 wrote:yep... i remove the automatic trans wires, canister, ac.... ac radiator... all wires that i dont need.. !!!! a few 2 hours, i go to a yunk yard to buy a electric radiator fan... i put it between bumper and radiator.... more close to radiator, because i dont have any room to put between radiator and motor. ...
Get the taurus 3.6 v6 fan. Those flow a lot better than anyaftermarket fan out there and are dual speed w/a nice shroud. I made a write up a year ago on how to wire them properly too. Just look for my name.

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maik21 wrote:ei guys... please , write in english, because its an english forum and other people maybe want to know what do you mean . =)) thanks !!! maybe at night of sunday my 240 will be finish =)
yes, english please....i opted for french in highschool...... but man.....MAD props on the swap man. i had some serious doubts when i read this thread a few months back......but whoa, you showed me

maik21
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MEDIUM BIG NEWS..............

i finish the electrical job today, i do a test drive and it feels soooooooooooo gooooooooood ..... but theres a little problem... the engine had a water leaks and i repair them. now, i have only one water leak, but its soooooooo little and that wasnt a problem for the test drive....i have a new problem... i show you a pic of them in paint.

if you see the picture... the transmission wire has a movement of aprox 5 cm or less.... and the gas pedal has a movement of 10 cm or less..... when i go to full throttle, the carb was at about 50% opening and the transmission wire is work at 100% ..... the problem is...

--- i cant go at full throttle because the transmission wire dont move.--- the gas pedal was sooooooooooooooo hard to press or push.....

i solve the problem... i disconnect the transmission wire and the pedal was soooo flexible.....

i do a test drive without the transmission wire ..... i feeeel soooooo strong my 240sx and i only press a little the gas pedal and it push very fine... i remember when i had the ka24e automatic..... i press the gas pedal and brake at same time, and the tires dont spin.... it spin at about 2000 rpm... now... i brake and press a little gas and the tires spin.. maybe... well... its not important... but i need to do a new test drive with the transmission wire conected because i press gas pedal at full throttle, but the transmission dont shift down and it feels a little.... i dont know how to said that........ but i feel soo happy!!!!

my engine is fine!!! my car is fine and i dont have exhaust ... i only have e.maniful and the engine is very very quiet.... =))))))) ....

...do you have questions?

maik21
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i need to put the gas pedal wire upper..... and the transmission wire down to solve the problem!!!

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Wow congrats on a mad swap, that thing must rip up roads, even at idle =) Good job on bringing N/A power to the 240, even if it was with a domestic engine swap! Enjoy it

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looking real good man! im glad to see its all working out for you too. more pics!

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maik21 wrote:... i feeeel soooooo strong my 240sx and i only press a little the gas pedal and it push very fine...

do you have questions?
How did the driveshaft splice go? Any vibration at high speed?

When can we expect to read of a twin-turbo conversion?
Gomeler wrote:Wow congrats on a mad swap, that thing must rip up roads, even at idle =) Good job on bringing N/A power to the 240, even if it was with a domestic engine swap! Enjoy it
Just guessing from his grammer and vocabulary... I don't think either the KA24de or the 302 are domestic for him.

maik21
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jajajajajajjjaa, i dont know what do you mean for domestic, but aaaaaaaaaaaa....... ????

it vibrate a little, but i think its because the water pump has a non simetrical screw and one of them is a little biger .... the driveshaft is in one piece!!! the mechanical remove the 2 old pieces of driveshaft (stock ka24e transmission ) and put only one !!!! he put the driveshaft from a 302 transmission and solder the end into the start of the diferential !!!... i have a little problems of temp, because theres no room to put a electric fan like a sandwich... and i put a electric fan ( hi-rev ) ... i dont know how it mean.. but here is the order....

bumper.... electric fan.... radiator ... engine !!!!!!

89 240 SOHC
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check to make sure the fan is blowing the right way...should be able to hold a peice of paper in front of the fan and have it sucked towards the engine.

maik21
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yep... the fan is blowing air in the right way =)))) i install an extra fan (ac fan) =) ... im now doing the electrical conection for a relay =)

Nanaimo
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For an engine (or car) to be domestic, it must be made in the country you are in. Thus for me, the 250sx and ford mustang are not domestic, but toyota carolas are (I live in Canada).

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Interesting. Never thought I would see someone swap a Ford engine into a Nissan.

Yoshisuke Aikawa must be turning in his grave! =)

Still very cool indeed!

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89 240 SOHC wrote:Why not take a 2.3L Mustang engine and try that it's got almost as much power stock as a stock 5.0 and it's alot lighted....I did it and it works good.....can kick many 5.0L Stangs but I'm also pushing 250HP at the flywheel for under $2000
I got one sitting on my engine stand awaiting implant. My old Merkur had seen better days, so the 2.3Turbo is going in there.

Expect fun things.

Also, how did you adapt the Ford driveshaft to fit with the Nissan rear-end? My T5 uses the same driveshaft as the 5.0, so any information would be awesome!

maik21
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Also, how did you adapt the Ford driveshaft to fit with the Nissan rear-end? My T5 uses the same driveshaft as the 5.0, so any information would be awesome!

cut and paste !! like windows os !! i try to take a picture and show you... if i dont.. i do a draw for you!!

FliMSiCaL
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this isn't in much reply to the 302, just to a certain post in here...if your 240 is getting 20 mpg highway and isn't boosted, something is wrong. I get 24 mpg whilst wot 70 percent of the time, with 3 injectors leaking, exhaust broken, and other misc crap broken. Before that happened, i maintained 34mpg highway when everything was working and i drove lightly.

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Any updates on your project? I would like to know more about the transmission mounts (I assume T5) along with adapting the hydraulic clutch to a cable operated (or unless you used the TurboCoupe hydraulic bellhousing)

maik21
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i dont know a lot or a little of the transmission mounts.. but the mounts its an adaptation!! and the transmission its an automatic 3 shifts plus overdrive !!!

maik21
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the pics of the egine, maybe show the dirty, and maybe there is, but i will paint interior bay and take new pics and show you more parts of the swap!!! dont expect much or beauty adaptations!!! hahahaahahh i need to spend more money to do this project safe to me and my passengers!!

maik21
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hoooooooo... news..... i put the complete exhaust yesterday =) its sounds quiet at low rpms, but the exhaustman toldme that the maniful exhaust gaskets are damaged and i need to put new gaskets =))) it will be quiet at low and mid rpms =) i hope that =)

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hum very interesting swap. but congrats anyhow on the great progress.

as far at the 2.3l depending on what you want the early svo used a carb, but the 87-88 thunderbird turbo coupe had the best 2.3l engine stock. i have done the conversion into a lx myself. very easy swap. i think the only real thing that would have to be done for it to go into a 240 would be to move the intercooler. they are a very easy engine to get some decent hp out of for cheap. i had 400 bucks into my whole swap and was pushing 200 hp.

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n_bogie wrote:hum very interesting swap. but congrats anyhow on the great progress.

as far at the 2.3l depending on what you want the early svo used a carb, but the 87-88 thunderbird turbo coupe had the best 2.3l engine stock. i have done the conversion into a lx myself. very easy swap. i think the only real thing that would have to be done for it to go into a 240 would be to move the intercooler. they are a very easy engine to get some decent hp out of for cheap. i had 400 bucks into my whole swap and was pushing 200 hp.
Mines out of my old Merkur. It's a solid place to start.I've been wrenching on it for a year or so now, and I'm a member over at TurboFord, so I know my stuff.

I already got the motor out - I'm currently at the wiring harness.

Bet the 2.3T will make more power cheaper than the 5.0 - only because I didn't even buy the Merkur - it was given to me.

I also got a T5 to back up the motor and put the power to the ground.

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did the merkurs come with the ihi turbo? also the t-5 transmission is it one out of a 2.3 or a 5.0? just remember the imput shaft is alot larger.also make sure you got a good clutch in there. if it is a 5.0 transmission the tall gears killed my clutch real quick. if you need any help on it let me know i was a member of stangnet for some time and been there done that befor.

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wow i Found On Road Dead motor in a nissan now thats cool and imagnitave I like it much better that the SR bandwagon.

maik21
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ei guys ,,, please... give me some advices... i have a overheat problem and i dont know what i need to do!!!!.......

the radiator is the stock that comes with the ka24e engine. the plastic that comes with the radiator is not installed. this plastic is in the position like a sandwich... emmmm.... the bread are the radiator and the fan.. and the cheese is this plastic part !!!! do you undestand? .... please some advices to me!!! i need to change the stock radiator ?

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Ah, the shroud. You need a shroud for better cooling. Without the shroud, the air goes mainly through the area the fan covers. The shroud helps to expand that area through the whole radiator. Also, the radiator is probably inefficient too. The ka pushes what? 140 hp... and the 302? I'm not saying that power is directly related to heat, but sometimes it is. Get a better radiator and a shrowded fan. I recommend:

Radiator:Datsun 260z 3 core copper 26” wide x 19” highFan:Taurus 3.0L or 3.6L v6 21 1/4 inches X 16 1/4 inches. 6 to 6 1/2 inch depth

and wire it like this:


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