ford 302 5.0 carburated fit into 240sx 90 ?

ONLY for ADVANCED technical discussion about the 240sx!
maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

thanks for the advice =))) thanks thanks thanks a lot !!!


WhiteMexican
Posts: 5
Joined: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:01 pm
Car: 95 240, 91 Explorer, 94 G20, 69 Bug

Post

Maik, Donde vive en mexico?? my wife has an infinity g20/nissan primera and all the mechanics here in tecate tell her to sell it because of parts availability for her sr20 and transmission. and especially here in mexico, if you're not worried about importing her to california, the 302 would make for a really fun car, easy to find parts fo and have work done on. And to mikeh, I appreciate the import love but hp/liter of bsfc isn't the only way you should judge a car...seriously, anything powered by a ca18det or even an sr...against a viper or 427 cobra...let's be realistic...even if you could get the numbers out of the engine, you couldn't come close to approaching a comparably wide powerband. Besides, the vq35, ka24, sr, ca,qr engines aren't that efficient volumetrically compared to a b16, but would you want a b16 in your 300zx or silvia??? It's all about love of the hobby blind of the national origins of the equipment, i mean...if the cheese eating surrender monkeys can make a couple cool cars (renault r5, clio v6)...can't we give our own automakers just a little love??? I'd also be plenty happy to trade all of my cars for my dad's old 67 shelby gt500 with a 650hp na boss 302....oh baby....I start drooling just thinking about that car

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

hi, im near to tekate!!!!... im in obregon sonora!! near to san carlos beach!!

well, my father sell his car to the nissan dealer, and them cant repair the car.... they have de car into the garage for about 2 years and the mechanicals cant repair!!!!... one year ago, they repair the motor and sell to a person.. and i dont know where the car is now!!... but the car work for my father for about 5 years and the car never had troubles.... only spend in oil change,,, air filter change.. gas filter change... the basic service.... it was a excelent car, but when it sick, was a trouble!!

spider_slayer
Posts: 1999
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:44 pm
Car: S14 240SX
S13 240SX

Post

my sr20det aginst a 427 cobra....yea i'm realistic. but i still HATE losing . that 302 is gonna be a project for sure, be sure you have alot of time and patience. i would also recommend visiting a mustang board and see what they have to say. as always good luck and keep us updated

Chingon
Posts: 2802
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:45 am
Car: 1991 and 1992 hatchbacks

Post

maik21 wrote:hi, im near to tekate!!!!... im in obregon sonora!! near to san carlos beach!!
hey, i was born in Hermosillo.

dfw240_EE
Posts: 1137
Joined: Tue Jun 24, 2003 2:04 am
Car: 1992 240SX
Contact:

Post

Ubernoober wrote:The 240SX is the LEAST fuel efficient compact I have ever driven. My 4.6L Saleen gets 22 highway, the 240 barely 20. So please don't bark about the efficiencies of imports over domestics, you are just spreading misinformation. Every engine has its merits. From a Ferrari V12 right on down to the 1600CC VW.

Any competent driveshaft shop can either mate the Ford yoke to the Nissan driveshaft or the Nissan rear bolt plate to the Ford driveshaft. Its not difficult and you will end up with a premium fit with maximum strength.

A 302 with a carburator won't be as efficient as EFI, but is a MUCH easier install and can make excellent power at half the price. I would recomment putting the carb motor in and getting it running. From there you can convert to EFI if you really feel the need.
I actually get about 23mpg composite on my KA24DE. Though recently I was able to get 25mpg. I have only had the car for 2months and I am still trying to learn to drive her nice. On the highway I get 26-27mpg.

However, what some people do not seem to realise is that those performance numbers for engines (hp, mpg, etc) are averages of different engines tested. I may have just got lucky and bought a 240 with a better-than-average engine.

I definitely understand the needs that dictate that maik21 should get a 302. It definitely seems that the 302 will fit maik's needs nicely. I had specific needs and requirements when I selected a sports car. Decent performance but not so much performance to cost me on insurance. 4 cylinder RWD. I wanted a "classic" sports car layout and 4cyl to keep gas prices down.

Mikeh stated that the "archaic" American V8's are unreliable. I don't believe this for a second. America certainly has had its share of embarassments in the field over the years, but for the most part American engineering does produce excellent and reliable V8's. The problem is that with fuel prices ever increasing I believe that the V8 will become even less prominent than it is now. I believe that increasingly the inline 4 will become the dominant engine for the next couple decades.

Just my .02

Ubernoober
Posts: 539
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:51 pm

Post

"I believe that increasingly the inline 4 will become the dominant engine for the next couple decades."

Dang, I was hoping to run on proto-culture...

Ok, geek reference.

gaehrings13
Posts: 806
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:06 am
Car: Nissan S14

Post

too bad you don't live in florida i would have sold you the whole car for 800 dollars. It runs good too just needs another transmission cause 5th gear doesn't work

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

hioooo... im not lucky.... my father see today in the news a motor nissan 1800 with transmision and told me that he had a datsun that had a motor 1800 and the top speed was 100mph... jahahahahahaha... i told him that i dont buy that motor!!!! and he toldme that with this motor, the swap will be so easy... but no.

try to thing a 240sx with a 1.8l carburated. and an old transmission!!! maybe only 3 gears. i dont know, but i dont try to think about that.

User avatar
Gold Digger
Posts: 5823
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:48 pm
Car: Current:
2011 Infiniti G25X

Former:
1995 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec Midnight Purple
1990 Nissan Laurel Club S Turbo Two Tone Pearl

Post

Ubernoober wrote:The 240SX is the LEAST fuel efficient compact I have ever driven. My 4.6L Saleen gets 22 highway, the 240 barely 20. So please don't bark about the efficiencies of imports over domestics, you are just spreading misinformation. Every engine has its merits. From a Ferrari V12 right on down to the 1600CC VW.

Any competent driveshaft shop can either mate the Ford yoke to the Nissan driveshaft or the Nissan rear bolt plate to the Ford driveshaft. Its not difficult and you will end up with a premium fit with maximum strength.

A 302 with a carburator won't be as efficient as EFI, but is a MUCH easier install and can make excellent power at half the price. I would recomment putting the carb motor in and getting it running. From there you can convert to EFI if you really feel the need.
only 20mpg on the highway...how were you driving? The 1990 SOHC I had got close to 30 on the highway at 70-75mph. Maybe I just had a freak motor? Dunno

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

hey hey hey.. my 240sx project swap has started .... i start the project past monday 2 of this month. the mechanic now put the motor into my 240 and tomorrow fit the carter and other stuffs !!

Chingon
Posts: 2802
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:45 am
Car: 1991 and 1992 hatchbacks

Post

excellent!! If you can, post pics. So which was it? EFI or carburated 302?

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

ha... its an carburated 302, with a aluminium intake =) !!! 2 hours ago, i buy a carter and the mechanic is installing it !! =) im happy

User avatar
SimpleEnigma
Posts: 277
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2004 2:27 pm
Car: 1992 240sx Coupe

Post

NICE!!! ill take a carb'd 5.0L. Stock transmission on those are the Borg-Warner T-5 right? thats good up to about 300hp before they blow up. Also, if you want performance parts for the 302, tons of them can be had at http://www.jegs.com or http://www.summitracing.com or http://www.fordracing.com, not too bad on shipping . the ford 302's are very popular race motors.

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

yesterday, the mechanic put the new modded carter, but a problem ocurre. the new carter dont has the oil wire meter( i dont know how it names in english.... i mean the metal wire, that purpose is check the oil level =))))) ..... and today, i think mechanic resolve the problem, because he told me that he has some like water pump and other stuffs... the original level meter, is rear the motor.. and the new position of the level meter will be right infront ... next to water pump =) ...i hope that my car is ready to next wednestay and i take some pics to show u the final job . !!

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

thanks for the link =))))))) its greeeeeeeeeattttt =)))

j-z
Posts: 2878
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:26 pm
Car: 95 240sx

Post

definetly post up some pictures man! i bet that thing is gonna rip. and oh, the thing your talking about is called the dip stick. lots of reliable naturally aspirated power is looking really good right now, and especially after driving my moms lightly modded z28 for the first time today . me likey the v8

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

i will take a photocamera from my friend and take some pics for your maybe tomorrow =)

89 240 SOHC
Posts: 108
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:58 pm
Car: 1990 Micra S13....Micra with S13 Seats and other S13 accents to follow

Post

Why not take a 2.3L Mustang engine and try that it's got almost as much power stock as a stock 5.0 and it's alot lighted....I did it and it works good.....can kick many 5.0L Stangs but I'm also pushing 250HP at the flywheel for under $2000

j-z
Posts: 2878
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:26 pm
Car: 95 240sx

Post

89 240 SOHC wrote:Why not take a 2.3L Mustang engine and try that it's got almost as much power stock as a stock 5.0 and it's alot lighted....I did it and it works good.....can kick many 5.0L Stangs but I'm also pushing 250HP at the flywheel for under $2000
might as well keep the stock ka... are you talking about the 2.3 svo turbo motor? if not, then how the hell do you have 250 hp NA?

User avatar
tryiian
Posts: 125
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 8:34 pm
Car: 95 blue emerald s14 KADE traded for 1992 black hatch base
Contact:

Post

might as well? with as much money as it takes to get the KA up to 200?

i`m curious too, though, how the flip did you get 250 out of the lx without any form of boost?

ed: also, what would it take for me to swap one of these into a 14?

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

i dont know how you get +200hp from a 2.3l, but the 302 that i put into my car... seems to be a little lighter than the ka24e... !! the 302 has some aliminium parts ..

Ubernoober
Posts: 539
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:51 pm

Post

Don't worry about it Maik. It will make plenty of power and deliver a larger torque curve than anything else mention in this thread. Good times.

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

im sorry but my friend dont have the photocamera now. i go today for my car and take it to my home... it is at %75 percent of work....... it runs, its spins... all are ok.. but i need to buy an electric fans, and a modded hood!!... the only fan that my car has is the ac fan. thats because i only drive it to my home.. haaaaa... the mufflers are off... dont has mufflers and i need to go to a shop to buy the mufflers and headers... .. i take some pics and show the percent !!

89 240 SOHC
Posts: 108
Joined: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:58 pm
Car: 1990 Micra S13....Micra with S13 Seats and other S13 accents to follow

Post

My engine has....BlackHeath Popup Pistons.500 Shaved off headHolley 2150 2 Barrel Carb (308)5.7 RodsBalanced and BluePrinted.454 Lift Cam260 PSI compression at 2000 rpm110 PSI compression cranking cause the cam's so bigPort and Polish Lightened PulleysAdjustable Cam PulleyTFI Ignition with MSD coilOpen Header custom built for that exact engineBlock is bored 60 over and decked .030

There is a fair bit more...started with a block from a SVO and a head from a 2.0L Pinto Motor...Ranger intake etc....Oh Yeah.....Turbo Blue 115 fuel

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

240sx mod 90 v8 swap

User avatar
frapjap
Posts: 13175
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:46 pm
Car: '99 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
'07 Subaru Legacy
Location: South Coast Massachusetts

Post

How is this car running? Fast as S**t? Such a little bitty car...such a big motor. I think I need to pay your mechanic a visit.

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

i dont know what do you mean... but i dont run at full throttle .... i need to do a complete system exhaust to run it.

maik21
Posts: 952
Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:09 am
Car: 90 Nissan 240SX Coupe 5.0

Post

i need to mention when i take my car to home.. i press the gas pedal a little little little, and it respond very fast!!! no problems... i think i rev the motor about 1300-1500 and it respond very weelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll..............!!!!! im veeeeeeeery happy!!!!

Chingon
Posts: 2802
Joined: Sun Jul 06, 2003 8:45 am
Car: 1991 and 1992 hatchbacks

Post

Felicidades Maik, que bueno que ya mero terminas!!


Return to “240SX Technical Forum”