EVO VIII or WRX STI
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nlzmo400r
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theres always room for mods, and yes the space is quite cramped, but people have been modding them since their release, so theres plenty available, also, in response to J-SPECs post, yes, once the G35 coupe gets AWD it will be hands down the coolest car on the market IMO, but the price will put it far out of reach for potential evo8 or sti owners, if a 2wd G coupe cost arond 35k or so, an AWD coupe will EASILY (or so i would think) creep up to about 4ok-42k
i dont know where u ppl live but here in sacramento the most expensive 350z that i have seen so far at the car dealer was 28Ks. with tax etc i wud say 31Ks out the door with everything the car has to offer. okay so maybe the turbo kit might be expensive since it is extremely new to the market and im not sure if it has been released yet but slap some shyt off a 300zx TT and u got yourself more car than u cud imagine for 35Ks. besides, i think the 350z defines a sports car more than any other car in production for its price today. and that 287 hp aint not bad. thats serious heat for a 3.5 liter n/a 6 banger. oh yea and the backseat deal...hmm i say screw the new car and get yourself a 240sx with a s15 front conversion and a rb26dett. oh yeah. u know what im talking about. but thats a little farfetched. but well if u were thinking about a c4 vette, try checking ou the 03 stang cobras. 33Ks and 390 horses. did i mention backseats? o yeah and they so kick the sti ad the evos azz on the strip.
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nlzmo400r
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i agree and disagree, but if you're going to go as far as saying minimal risk ,you woldnt be 'racing', basically, if you're willing to sacrifice clutches and limited slips, teh EVo8 and STi are both faster than a 35oZ 9/1o times. This is only from a standing 1/4 mile though, my friends have raced from 4omph, 6omph and 8omph roll ons, the 35oZ beating the evo8 every time. If the evo or sti is launched at reasonable rpm (i.e NOT REDLINE) hte 35oZ or G35 would probably beat themPalmerWMD wrote:The Evo and STi do NOT run low 13's tehy run hi 13's to low 14 in all sitautions were they are driven by someone who actually <owns> the car.The G sedan with the AUTO can beat the EVO in the quarter mile when both are driven w/ minimal risk of breakage.
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nlzmo400r wrote:i agree and disagree, but if you're going to go as far as saying minimal risk ,you woldnt be 'racing', basically, if you're willing to sacrifice clutches and limited slips, teh EVo8 and STi are both faster than a 35oZ 9/1o times. This is only from a standing 1/4 mile though, my friends have raced from 4omph, 6omph and 8omph roll ons, the 35oZ beating the evo8 every time. If the evo or sti is launched at reasonable rpm (i.e NOT REDLINE) hte 35oZ or G35 would probably beat them
From a roll the 350 is gonna kill it, no doubt. But on the 1/4 you HAVE to launch the Evo (maybe even the STi) from a high rpm. AWD owns the transmission due to no burn out. But anyway, read up on evolutionm.net. Those guys are all running 13's. When someone runs a 14.x they wonder what's wrong. I think some of the STi guys are even hitting high 12's and pegging 13's everytime. It's not hard to do. The launch on the Evo and STI is what it's all about. Check those 60's, they're dayum low.
Last year I had a really close call in my Q45. I mashed the pedal coming off an offramp. I pegged the tach at 7 grand doing 85mph to avoid a parade of big rigs in the slow lane and at the apex, the rear wheels lost a hold of the tarmac. What happened next was the mother of all slides. I went from the offramp and slid into the far left lane doing 90mph and in the process scared the **** out co-worker.
Since then and a dozen or so close calls in the Q and Supra I was on the lookout for a new AWD car. So when I had the chance to test drive the Evo and STI in August I sold the dawg. After all the test drives, I have an EVO parked next to my Q now. I'll list the pro's and con's of each:
EVO:
Pros:1- Great handling. The EVO is the better driver's car of the two. It's also easier for an average joe to jump in and drive fast. Handling is sharper and the brakes have better feel to them.2- Less body-roll.
Cons:1- Cheap interior. Besides the ergonomic, sporty recaros, the interior just screamed Rubbermaid. Jumping in the car reminded me of the new Alty.2- Less power. The power downlow is no match for the Suby. You have to keep running the tach at full-boil to make the best use of the power, dropping below 3k and you deal with big-time lag. STI:
Pros:
1- Way better power. There's no blips in this super-even powerband. 2- Audi-ish interior. The standard WRX had a really nice int. but Subaru ups the ante here- without seeing the Subaru impresa on the steering wheel, you'd think you were behind the wheel of an Volkswagen or Audi. The seats and color schemes is a nice touch as well. 3- The computerized differential control kicks glute.
Cons:
1-Brutish. There's nothing precise about this car, it's like using a broad sword to spread butter on your toast. The steering isn't as responsive as the EVO (or the Q for the matter)2- Despite the power advantage not as fast it's the Mitsu contemporary around the track.3- Bigger price tag.4- NO STEREO!?!?
I ended taking the EVO home because it's just the better real-world car of the two. I'm saving up some money for some minor (exhaust, intake, shocks, performance pads) mods. Still the verdict is you can't go wrong with either car.
Since then and a dozen or so close calls in the Q and Supra I was on the lookout for a new AWD car. So when I had the chance to test drive the Evo and STI in August I sold the dawg. After all the test drives, I have an EVO parked next to my Q now. I'll list the pro's and con's of each:
EVO:
Pros:1- Great handling. The EVO is the better driver's car of the two. It's also easier for an average joe to jump in and drive fast. Handling is sharper and the brakes have better feel to them.2- Less body-roll.
Cons:1- Cheap interior. Besides the ergonomic, sporty recaros, the interior just screamed Rubbermaid. Jumping in the car reminded me of the new Alty.2- Less power. The power downlow is no match for the Suby. You have to keep running the tach at full-boil to make the best use of the power, dropping below 3k and you deal with big-time lag. STI:
Pros:
1- Way better power. There's no blips in this super-even powerband. 2- Audi-ish interior. The standard WRX had a really nice int. but Subaru ups the ante here- without seeing the Subaru impresa on the steering wheel, you'd think you were behind the wheel of an Volkswagen or Audi. The seats and color schemes is a nice touch as well. 3- The computerized differential control kicks glute.
Cons:
1-Brutish. There's nothing precise about this car, it's like using a broad sword to spread butter on your toast. The steering isn't as responsive as the EVO (or the Q for the matter)2- Despite the power advantage not as fast it's the Mitsu contemporary around the track.3- Bigger price tag.4- NO STEREO!?!?
I ended taking the EVO home because it's just the better real-world car of the two. I'm saving up some money for some minor (exhaust, intake, shocks, performance pads) mods. Still the verdict is you can't go wrong with either car.
nlzmo400r wrote:i thought the same about the evo8 interior, my chioce would still be an STi, but i wouldnt say comparing an audi quatro to an STi or evo is like comparing a mustang to a ferrari, thats a bit farfetched
If he's talking about those Gruppe B Quatro's then it's definitely not far-fetched. Audi made a few hundred homologation production versions of those beasts so they are indeed rare. Along with Formula 1, hill-climbers and funny car dragsters, the old gruppe B rally cars were the most extreme racing machines of the time. Some could reach 0-60 in 2.8 seconds and 1/4 times of 10 secs. flat and in gravel.
