EVO VIII or WRX STI

Post by **Mayhem_J30** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

Tough call JEZTER. I may be fortunate that I wasn't faced with this decision as the STI's weren't out yet. I love the STI look but can't say I favor the seat color. That blue could be enough for me to turn away.But you could go back and forth between the two cars all day long. I know on the Suby boards and the Evo boards it's an endless battle with no victor, EVER.If it was me I'd keep the extra $2K. Matter of fact I'd look around for a place selling the Evo's at invoice. Swope is selling them at MSRP, which is good, but there's others about a grand below that. If I'm not mistaken MSRP is about $1300 over invoice.Anyway, I worked on some launches on wet pavement the other day. I figured the wet pavement would give a little tire spin thus helping me save the clutch a little. NOPE. I was doing 6K rpm launches with a quick feather of the clutch, no tire spin.

Smelled clutch a little but not to bad. I'm pretty sure two drops of pee came out as I got the launch perfect. Man does that thing come out of the hole! I'm sure the Suby is very similar. Good luck!

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

another thing to consider is the type of traction control that they come with. the suby comes with DCCD as mentioned above but the EVO doesnt come with it's traction control system that the japanese versions have. id still go with the EVO but i think i would wait till next years model comes out where they might have the TCS and also have some refinements from the first years model

Post by **Wuss** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

WRX STI, performance wise, there aren't enough differences to make up my mind, but unfortunately even with it's incredible potential, the Evo 8 is still a 13 thousand dollar lancer with 14k in "mods". The interior has been upped, but still reflective of it's poor boy roots.

WRX interior isn't that impressive either, but the upgrades in the STI are pretty damn cozy. Worth the extra 2k

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

Wuss wrote:WRX STI, performance wise, there aren't enough differences to make up my mind, but unfortunately even with it's incredible potential, the Evo 8 is still a 13 thousand dollar lancer with 14k in "mods". The interior has been upped, but still reflective of it's poor boy roots.

WRX interior isn't that impressive either, but the upgrades in the STI are pretty damn cozy. Worth the extra 2k

ummmm.... what? u think the EVO is just a regular lancer with 14k in mods? nope. i like to think of it as the regular lancer being a EVO with a whole bunch of cheap parts to save 14k

Post by **Wuss** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

TurboKA37 wrote:ummmm.... what? u think the EVO is just a regular lancer with 14k in mods? nope. i like to think of it as the regular lancer being a EVO with a whole bunch of cheap parts to save 14k

true, depends the way you look at it i guess.

I still think the STI's build quality is much better. but then agian, it better have certian pros over the evo 8 considering the price difference.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

the evo came a long time before the regular lancer if im not mistakin. and i think the EVO would be much better quality than their other models due to the heritage of the EVO and how much work has gone into it over the years

Post by **Rockenreno** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

I think TurboKA is right. The Lancer is based off of the Lancer Evolution, which is bred for rally racing as far as have heard/seen.

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

Yeah the 03 US EVO VIII is the 8th gen so there are 7 other gens and even a JDM version so Mits. has put some time into the car.

The WRX is about 10 year old if I am not mistaken.somone do the research on the past EVO and Past WRX(where is Rob when you need him?

)LOL

I stoped by the Subaru dealership today and they SOLD the black one.They also sold the blue one(well it was still there, theu guy who put some cash down was supposed to be there today at 3:00pm to take del. I waited till almost 4:00 to meet him but he was a no show..BTW:He is trading in his 03 WRX for the STI) and have another blue one comming in within the next week or two.The sales manager was pretty cool and told me how it is.They have sold 5 of them and they have no intention on discounting it.They will sell for sticker price-$32,438.xx-They dont even discount their reg. inventory and are 100% on their sales goal this year.

One thing that buggs me about Subaru is that they sell upgrade parts such as suspension,muffler,brakes,ect... but they will not install or warantee them.Where as if you had a NISMO part installed at the dealership then Nissan of america would back it up,same goes for TRD with Toyota.so why is it that Subaru of America wont back it up?No body knows.LOL

So what if I could get my hands on a G35 coupe w/ 6-speed + Brembos for $32K? Do you all think that the G35 is more or less car for the $$$?I think that a STI with its much lower production #'s is more of a collecter car v/s the G35 as a daily driver(which I am not in need of).I know that this is a Nissan/Infiniti board and trust me I am a Nissan/Infiniti person.

I am real happy with the responce to this thread by our members.It just goes to show what kind of upstanding people we have on the board!;)

Post by **PalmerWMD** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

The G35 wetehr as Sedan or Coupe is SO MUCH more car.

It is already clear that it will be a timeless design, where both the EVO and STi will start looking awkward instead of edgy in a few years.

I think edgy cars are cool too, but the G35 is nearly as fast so much more beuatiful inside and out, expect greater reliabilty nicer dealer service, also its based one the non GTR Skyline in Japan and not on an upgraded economy car.

yes a G35 Coupe will be a coupel grand more than a Sti but SO MUCH more car it hard to even compare.

Fred...

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

TurboKA37 wrote:another thing to consider is the type of traction control that they come with. the suby comes with DCCD as mentioned above but the EVO doesnt come with it's traction control system that the japanese versions have. id still go with the EVO but i think i would wait till next years model comes out where they might have the TCS and also have some refinements from the first years model

actually i heard a RUMOR from a salesman at mitsubishi the other day that the o5 evo8 will not only have a 6spd manual, but also a 32ohp 4g63 instead of hte 271hp it comes with now, personally i dont believe this rumor, but you never know

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

05 or 04? I thought the EVO VIII was an 03 model.Am I wrong on that? That is one reason that I have some play with the dealership that has 4 EVO's on the lot.They need to sell them before the 04's get there.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

i think BY o5 they will get the 32ohp and such, however i believe the 6spd is coming for o4 *i think*

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

OH I C.Well the 04 should be out by Nov or Dec so we should be getting some info soon?

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

i would assume so yes, but like i said, it was just a rumor by a salesman, and you know how much the average salesman knows about the cars they sell :rolleyes

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

PalmerWMD wrote:The G35 wetehr as Sedan or Coupe is SO MUCH more car.

It is already clear that it will be a timeless design, where both the EVO and STi will start looking awkward instead of edgy in a few years.

I think edgy cars are cool too, but the G35 is nearly as fast so much more beuatiful inside and out, expect greater reliabilty nicer dealer service, also its based one the non GTR Skyline in Japan and not on an upgraded economy car.

yes a G35 Coupe will be a coupel grand more than a Sti but SO MUCH more car it hard to even compare.

Fred...

The G35 is a heck of a car for the money. I think Dane needs to decide what he is going to do with the car or hopes to accomplish with it.

If he wants a car to take to the track or pull it out of the garage to go out for a drive on a nice day. Then a G35 coupe would be the way to go. I personally would not let my G35 coupe (if I had one) see snow or inclement weather.

If he wants a family sedan (much like his Altima), something where he can throw the kids in the back of and use as a daily driver, then the G35 sedan is the way to go.

If he wants something similar to his car (SpecV) with more power and TONS of upgrade options, then the WRX STi and the EVO would be the way to go. These are great cars for the daily drive, autocross, road courses and hauling the family.

Today Repoman and I had a blast in the WRX forging mini rivers on Indiana's roads today. We had no problem getting through them and it provided an afternoon of cheap entertainment. AWD cars are fun in Mother Nature's mess.

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

I am looking for a car that I don't have to drive.It will most likely only see nice weather and have low miles as long as I own it.I want something that I can take out to an auto X or a drag strip and have some fun with.It does not have win by no means but do well.I will have my Altima for a long time so I don't need a "family car"(I do want a back seat and I would like 4 doors)As much as I love the G35 the more I type the more the STI/EVO sounds good.LOL

Post by **K1LLA916K** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

well i say the 350z is primarily the same as the g35 coupe and much much cheaper than the g35, sti and the evo. so i say get a 350Z and go turbo for the same price of buying a g35. and then u have a 276 n/a beast with atleast another 100 horses with the turbo. rear wheel drive and a whole liter of displacement to play with over the sti. so in the end u get a sub 11 second quarter mile beast at the price of a g35 with all the refinements u could need in a car. o yea n did i mention we would all be jealous?

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

LOL Good call and I did think about the 350z as well as a C4 Vette, but I need a back seat.I am also not super interested in making anyone jealous. I like the way you think as far a numbers though.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

personally, i doubt you could get a 35oZ would run sub 11s for the price of a 35k G35coupe, hell the 35oZ will cost you around 3o (+/- 2 depending on model u get)

Post by **cosmo** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

K1LLA916K wrote:well i say the 350z is primarily the same as the g35 coupe and much much cheaper than the g35, sti and the evo. so i say get a 350Z and go turbo for the same price of buying a g35. and then u have a 276 n/a beast with atleast another 100 horses with the turbo. rear wheel drive and a whole liter of displacement to play with over the sti. so in the end u get a sub 11 second quarter mile beast at the price of a g35 with all the refinements u could need in a car. o yea n did i mention we would all be jealous?

Base for 350Z=around 26,000 so it is cheaper, but it also has no LSD. All 350Z's come with 287 not 276 hp. Plus prices for 350Z are ridiculous, so you wouldn't be able to get one to run 12's for the G35 price, let alone sub 11's.

That would take some serious dough.

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

exactly my point, besides an STi would be able to get sub 11s much easier than a 35oZ iwould imagine

Post by **MainEvent212** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

yeah but it's still a WRX... i wish i wasnt too lazy to figure out the barf face....but i am lol

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

i love the looks of the wrx, especially the new ones, sure the 35o has a much more sexy and sophisticate 'rich' look, but hte STi looks great IMO nonetheless

Post by **Onizuka** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

when the G35 becomes available with AWD, i dont think its a contest at that point. NISSAN FOR EVER!!!

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

MainEvent212 wrote:yeah but it's still a WRX... i wish i wasnt too lazy to figure out the barf face....but i am lol

Dont worry Main, you wont see a WRX for very long. Just get use to seeing the tail lights.

Post by **tinted** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

So no one has thought about the insane possibilty of turboing the RX-8 :ylsuper :pface

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

It was brought up,But I don't think that most people like it.LOL I don't htink the style is good at all.

Website · Post by **TurboKA37** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

sumthing that i keep on forgeting to post: i hear that the WRX's flat 4 engine fits pretty snug in the engine bay. ive heard that its hard to work on and to build new parts to fit. but of coarse these are things that i have only heard, i have never taken the time to thoroughly examine the engine bay of a wrx

Post by **jEzTeR** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

It is a tight space but it has a 60k mile warranty so any work would be done by the Subaru service dept and it has no need for mods!

Post by **Cold_Zero** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:14 pm

TurboKA37 wrote:sumthing that i keep on forgeting to post: i hear that the WRX's flat 4 engine fits pretty snug in the engine bay. ive heard that its hard to work on and to build new parts to fit. but of coarse these are things that i have only heard, i have never taken the time to thoroughly examine the engine bay of a wrx

Yes, it is fit snug in the engine bay. With all the plumbing in the engine bay you do have to take some things apart to work on the engine.

As far as parts go, you can get anything you want in the aftermarket. They make so many parts it is not funny.

But what you fail to mention is that the Horizontally Opposed 4 cylinder (Flat) is one of the advantages the STi and the WRX have over its competition. That style of engine helps the balance of the car and makes for smooth power delivery. As opposed to an inline four cylinder.

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