Donate a fact about the 240

[PabloHoney]

I saw this kind of a post on another board somewhere. Just donate one interesting (or not so interesting) fact about the s13 and/or s14. Please tell which model the fact is about though =)

S14: '95 and '96 models can be identified by the difference in their grills.

[APEXi240]

In Japan production of the 180 ended in 98....9 yrs. I think its awesome that a company would continue production of an old car just because its popular (Honda should've taken notice and just kept selling Rs after 98, and 99 Si's instead of making a new, uglier car).

[b3aspire]

Instead of the civic si coupe, I think honda should've made atleast an EG6 SI for us.

[MasterMan]

my 91' SE likes mid grade gas... :pface

[maxpsi]

ITs about 240s guys, not Civics. Fact:240s are faster with turbos. lol

[maxpsi]

Is the Ka really a truck motor? Not really. It depends on whose magazine you are reading. Magazine editors can be a little ignorant of the Nissan world. Most people see Ka and never the following numbers and letters and automatically think that it is the ka24 of the pickup. What they dont see is that there were differences and variations in the truck and car motors. If it were up to the magazines, the Stanza and Altima also have truck motors. Are the block the same? No, they arent. The blocks are somewhat different even though they have many similarities. The heads are different also, not to mention, the cam. The truck KA has a TBI (throttle body injection) system while all of the cars had a standard fuel injection and rail system. Nissan has been using the same motors in many cars for many years. Its a very smart idea and works great. Like the Z and Maxima to this day use the same motors, but you dont hear editors say that the Maxima has a Z engine. If the 240sx only had a truck motor, then it would only be 122hp. Not even the Sohc 240s are that slow.

[APEXi240]

The engine, however, did originate in a truck, hence people labeling it as a truck motor. Maybe the slight changes are simply a matter of improving the engine over time. TBI injection was replaced for a better method. Cams were changed to make more power. But its still a "truck" engine. The GA motors, as well as the VG motors have changed over time, but where they originated from are the same. Its a truck motor.

[MaineExport]

VLSD kicks a$$! It's the first thing I would recommend anyone look into before they buy a 240sx.

There that was on topic, now for my off topic question. Didn't the truck use TB injection because of issues with reliable injection when the truck is being used as a truck is supposed to be used? They get banged around and have to operate reliably when tipped on it's side.... like out on trails and what not?.... I know carbs have a hard time operating on severe inclines/declines, I though the standard FI system has similar problems.

[APEXi240]

Couldn't tell you, but I thought TBI was used simply because that is what was done with older cars...I see many old Hondas, Pontiacs, and others that had TBI, and eventually moved on...

I thought it was like Carbs->TBI->current fuel injection(what is the term?).

[MaineExport]

You are most likely right, it was just a theory that a friend shared with me, it makes a little sense, but I'm not sure if there's any truth to it.

[PabloHoney]

Fact: LSD Differentials off of Infiniti J30's from late 95-96 are a direct swap for an S14, although the gearing is slightly different. That's an on topic =)

I thought it was like Carbs->TBI->current fuel injection(what is the term?).

There are quite a few different newer variations of fuel injection. Multiport Fuel Inject (MFI), PGMFI, and quite a few others, depending on what manufacturer you are dealing with = )

[Frappe]

What is the difference in gearing? you know?

Fact:S13s are lighter than the S14s, by about 100 lbs or so.Also, although the wheelbase of the S14 is an inch or two longer, the overall length is actually 1 inch shorter. The S14 is wider as well. (hear that guys, we're slightly harder to flip...:pface )

[APEXi240]

With a ZX diff, I read somewhere that there are slight changes that need to be made, but I forgot what....Do these same changes need to be made to the J30, and what are the changes? Also did J30s all come with LSD?

[MaineExport]

The 300zx tt isthe diff that has an issue. It has a different gear ration. The j30 rear is direct bolt-on, however I do recall something about shortening the drive shaft for the ABS sensor. I believ there is a write up in the 240sx.org FAQ section.

[Nismo_Freak]

:thinker

Fact: 240SXs share common brakes with any nissan sports car, Skyline, 300Z, etc. and they are all easily swapped.

Fact: S14 SEs have 30mm struts and the non-SEs have 26mm struts

Fact: God does in fact drive a Nissan... its a pearl white S15 and he drifts in it regularly causing earthquakes, floods, etc.

Fact: Rear Suspension is adjustable in all 240s

[PabloHoney]

The J30 has a different ratio as well, it is a 3.92 where the S14 is a 4.08, so about a 4% difference in gearing. Nothing all that big. The drive shaft does NOT need to be shortened, mine went in without a hitch. No ABS here =)

Fact: S14 seats ar a direct swap into an S13

[180crafter]

Fact: S14 seats ar a direct swap into an S13

Are you sure??? I tried to put the drivers seat in and i had a problem with the rail nearest the door. I had to put on the S13 rail on that side, but maybe im just a retard and dont know what the hell i was doing.

[Frappe]

Quote »Fact: Rear Suspension is adjustable in all 240s[/quote]Really? How do you adjust it?

[MaineExport]

The J30 has a different ratio as well, it is a 3.92 where the S14 is a 4.08, so about a 4% difference in gearing. Nothing all that big. The drive shaft does NOT need to be shortened, mine went in without a hitch. No ABS here =)

Fact: S14 seats ar a direct swap into an S13

Sorry... I must have read some bad info, because the source I had also says the s14 rearend has a 3.86:1 rearend. My bad. And the shortening the drive shaft thing is for any rear-end swap where the donor diff has ABS, and the implant car has no ABS. The ABS sensor adds an inch to the length of the 3rd member assembly. So in your case, the donor rear-end and your car must neither have ABS.

[FrEaK]

Fact: some 240's come with airride....

[Dystopia]

Jaky Chan is the president of the Hong Kong 200sx (s13 fastback with sr20det) club

[FrEaK]

Fact:The 240 is a RWD vehicle......

[D_Mac]

you have to hold the handle up to lock the door on the S13. drives me crazy

[Jubs180]

no way! that is the best I can't say how many times that has saved me from locking my keys in the car.

hrmmm.. what can I add.

Fact: Changing the clutch sucks

-Dan

[PabloHoney]

So in your case, the donor rear-end and your car must neither have ABS.

Nope, my rear end came off a J30, which AFAIK all had ABS (I know the one I had did because of the big empty hole for the ABS sensor at the fron of the diff close to the drive shaft flange). It may have been shorter, but there is no need to shorten the drive shaft in any way. There is plenty of play to begin with. =)

Fact: S14's have front struts and rear shocks.

Also, if you look at Dystopia's avatar ( just up a few posts ), her boobs bounce up everytime FrEaK's Avatar's car bounces in the air. That takes some talent to notice (either that, or I was watching the boobs so intently that I noticed other things moving in sync with them =) ).

[SpeedFreak]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Thanks for pointing that out.

Fact: Everytime I race a riced out civic an Angel gets his wings! Plus a civic owner gets.....OWNED!!!!:ylsuper

[Nismo_Freak]

uhhh... thats OWNED buddy.

[Jubs180]

is that an acute or obtuse angle?

[Nismo_Freak]

Obtuse... im just fawkin around.

Fact: The altima DOES NOT HAVE A KA ... it has a KS24DE

[SpeedFreak]

remind me not to post drunk!:thinker