damn honduhz r soo tricky..

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

dammit some guy that ive raped before in his purple civic.. came up to me and told me his club wanted to race me saturday night..(because i raced a spoon civ hatch from their club and killed him.. sir type2 engine wit a stock dx nonvtec ecu.. dumbazz) anyways.. so they wanted to race me.. so i was like screw it.. its just a purple civ ex wit cai exhaust and vtec controller.. i took him off the line in front of him from the line to 3rd gear.. and then he came back from a car away and smoked me ugly.. but come to find out that he swapped a gsr engine recently.. damn honduhz.. its ok.. he had nothing on me on the line loljust had to vent a liljoe

ps... i need a turbo.. my friends si turbo spankd a 2000 gt v6 dsm wit intake exhaust and 75shot .... just proves how much better a turbo really is?joe

[Exar-Kun]

" 2000 gt v6 dsm wit intake exhaust and 75shot "

well, since a 200gt doesnt exist, I assume your talking about a 300GT.

if its DSM, those are the turbo eclipses, which never came with V-6's.

if it is a 300GT, and its a V-6 and non-turbo its proabably the SL model and was only 181hp, and weighed 4000lbs.

so figure out what car he raced first man...

[Nismo_Freak]

V6 DSM w/ N20 and BPU = maybe a high 13 2000 GT = maybe a high 13

Turbo KA = mid to low 13

[1991240xs]

...just me..but i think he meant a 2000 eclipse gt with nos...but he tottally confused me too-

[SRdS14]

PLUS a SiR (1.6 Vtec)...i don't think you can use a non-vtec ecu there bob... Spoon Civic?? stickers or what? I'm sorry, but this is an awesome thread!~Scott

[APEXi240]

You can't use the ECU because the SiR is DOHC and the DX is SOHC. Plus there is the V-TEC issue also.

I highly doubt it was a Spoon motor, they were lying to you, because anyone that can afford a Spoon motor can also afford the proper ECU. How can it be a Spoon motor and a SiR motor?

Squeeze a 50 shot for now and spank that Civic...make sure you race him for some money though...

Si Turbos are DOGS, I've seen mildly tuned Talons and Eclipses rape them. There are a couple of Si turbos that run consistant mid to high 14s...dogs.

[SilviaLuvr]

well singlecam look at it this way no matter how you put it he was running around scared $hitless b/c you beat him so he called up one of his boyz cryinig to get a gsr engine swap so to me no matter you look at it you won even if he beat you the second time you still won...

[speedsta2003]

NOS=cheap way to win. Show that you can beat a civic without cheap crap like that, swap your engine or get a better car.

[APEXi240]

I don't understand that...A Mustang or musclecar is a cheap way to win too, but its still winning.

If you got beat by a Hyundai with a 100 shot, you'd never hear the end of it. No one would care that it was squeezing. "That 240 got beat by an Elantra, but it was squeezing" This is a quote you would never see, it'd be more like "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, that Hyundai just waxed that 240, hahahaha..."

[SilviaLuvr]

NOS=cheap way to win. Show that you can beat a civic without cheap crap like that, swap your engine or get a better car.

YES THINK YOU NOS is the cheapest way of escaping the joys of building a real horsepower car ie "my car has 160 hp but when i spray i have 275-280" net to "well i have 320hp...thats it" bottom line with nos you still have stock and whatever mods hp compared to turbo, cooler, port polished, stroker kit, gaskets, etc...

[wingzero]

well singlecam look at it this way no matter how you put it he was running around scared $hitless b/c you beat him so he called up one of his boyz cryinig to get a gsr engine swap so to me no matter you look at it you won even if he beat you the second time you still won...

Silvialuvr, I know you've got your own agenda against hondas and everything man, but by definition, if the civic BEAT him the second time, then the civic won that particular race, right? And if the civic won then the 240 must've lost. I just don't get why everyone's so pissed that a civic beat him, those cars have great potential if you actually put some work into the engine. yeah they might not have the torque or Rwd of a 240 with, but put an H22a in a civic and you've got one helluva nice car, your already making the same amount of hp as an SR20DET, and that's with an NA enigine. I'm just getting so sick of people griping about hondas, everyone's gotta learn to tell the difference between hondas and rice( I'm sure someone's gonna make a crack about both being the same thing). Again, we're all four-bangers, just kinda pointless to rip on each other.

[themadscientist]

dude, you almost had him, hahaha! You lost, so what, it's never a sure thing, that's why guys like John Force still get giddy when they win. If a guy is a chump and I beat him I refuse to race him(or her, wife hates losing especialy to me) ever again. Because I am afraid? no it just sticks in their ego like a splinter and I find that gives me a warm fuzzy.

[speedsta2003]

I agree with the dude about the hondas, you shouldnt diss on a car that in my opinion, is much better than the 240. The Civics seem to be more reliable than the 240's and smoother ride. Front wheel drive has better control anyway, that's why most cars now are built w/ front wheel drive. My Mom's civic drives like butter, so spread it through your mind.

[speedsta2003]

oh by the way, it's pretty stupid for me to say that kind of stuff in a 240SX forum...sorry if it hurts peoples feelings, but in the forum for Porsche 924's there lots of gripe about our cars, about how ****ty the car is, because there's actually truth behind it. In this forum, people dont like to tell their problems of their car in which you can learn a lot more if people started talking about their problems

[themadscientist]

put the bong down speedy, you obviously don't have a clue. It's a shcoolnight and you don't want to flunk your fingerpaint exam tommorow. I bet if you ask mommy nicely she will let you fiddle with the stereo in her Honda.

[speedsta2003]

damn youre right, I do need to go to sleep. But hey, I hate Civics in all truth, I think they lack horse and are slow as hell. But it sure in the hell handles on the snow and ice better than my rear wheel drive. Plus she's owned the car from when it was new, and it rarely ever has any problems, worse that's happened in 60,000 miles is that it had a flat tire.

[themadscientist]

of course it grips in the snow, the motor sits on top of the drive wheels. Car manufacturers don't build front wheel drives because they are better just like it took them so long to put safety features in cars back in the 50s they are cheap bastards! Hondas don't suck, stupid honda owners suck!

[wingzero]

well the civic's got it strong points buddy, but I dunno if it's better than a 240.

Civic: - great aftermarket support- relatively fun & easy to work on- Reliability is bulletproof with proper maintenance- Pretty nice suspension setup (not the new ones though)- great gas mileage- good selection of bolt-on engine swaps- 100+ hp per liter on an NA engine (b16a, b16b) is pretty damn impressive (if only honda would come out with a 4 liter engine.....)Cons: no torque, somewhat bland styling, fwd feel still lacks the true sports car experience, way too many of them get riced out, no friggin turbo (!).

240sx:- Kickass multi-link rear suspension - Rwd- Cheapest bang for the buck.- Has (from what I understand, madscientist correct me on this one) the greatest aftermarket support of any car in japan.- Can't drift in the civic.- Love the styling, very distinctive-looking car.- Relatively rare to find.- The Sr20det is already turboed, (you can't beat the angry hiss of a b.o.v).- Nissan engines seem to able to take more abuse.- Getting up to skyline-esque HP levels isn't really that unattainable with an SR. (as opposed to an NA honda, making an NA engine turbo is a lot of work and money, considering S13 Sr20det and B16A2 changeover's cost relatively the same amount).Cons: reliability ( even though I know I will get flamed on this one, just my experience though.), parts for the Ka are not that plentiful in comparison to the SR, stock KA runs out of steam after like 5500-6k rpm, seems like they're the new "fad" with ricers now (really pained me to say that).

Just my opinion, I love both my civic and my 240. It's just that I can only afford an engine swap for one of the cars, and that would be my 240. maybe an H22A for the civic in like a few years, when there will hopefully be a fewer number of riced out civics around. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[89sxRCR]

let it be said i vote for speedsta's ejection off the boards... from his other posts i gather hes a honda ricer in disguise. (not that well either) This is the guy that said fake intercoolers are cool... I think hes here for disinformation. Everything he says is wrong in someway...

edit: and btw buddy you have rare up there 2ce fer the 240. You dont gotta beef up its resume its already good.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

dammit the whole story got all mixed up alreadylemme start again... theres a car club called ssr... and i raced a spoon hatch civ its the real deal but for some odd reason he didnt change out the ecu.. and the vtec controller goes all crazy.. because theres not vtec to control so it redlines like at 6rpms instead of 7-8rpms.. its all set wrong.. so yes he went crying i guess.. and another civ from his club that ive raced before that had a stock ex engine was going to race me.. but what i didnt know was that he had a gsr swap on it.. so he killed me..

as for the 2000 dsm ecplise gt wit the intake and exhaust and 75shot vs. a 1999 honduh civ si with a turbo charger on it.. (aftermarket turbo) they raced the next day and the gt got smoked ugly.. cheap way of winning or not.. he got smoked end of storylol i leave for one day and the whole thread got jacked uphahajoe

[wingzero]

edit: and btw buddy you have rare up there 2ce fer the 240. You dont gotta beef up its resume its already good.

aye aye cap'n, problem fixed.

[Matthew]

If you have to let off steam everytime you lose, i wouldn't suggest racing at all.You can hate on hondas....or any car all you want, but you still cannot speak english.

[Exar-Kun]

I agree with the dude about the hondas, you shouldnt diss on a car that in my opinion, is much better than the 240. The Civics seem to be more reliable than the 240's and smoother ride. Front wheel drive has better control anyway, that's why most cars now are built w/ front wheel drive. My Mom's civic drives like butter, so spread it through your mind.

your moms civic. wait. hold on....AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA.OK, Im done....but....

uh, FWD does not drive better, and if you own a porshe you should agree with that. civics are slower and have mcuh less potential than the 240sx to race, be it drag, road or autocross.

but sure, for a non-driving enthusiest they might be fine.

-chet

[Repo Man]

let it be said i vote for speedsta's ejection off the boards... from his other posts i gather hes a honda ricer in disguise.

If this really is the case, we'll run him off like we've done every other hondaricer. Remember Honda93? I think that was his s/n. Where is he now? Not here! Hahahahahaha!!!

Oh yeah, "my mom's Civic" =

[red240ne]

yes, he's earned himself a ticket out of here, like many others in the past... let me also say that the porshce 924s is the weakest model of porsche ever made and the highest model only even had 190hp. he could get his *** wiped with any stock sr20det. or turbo KA...

[speedsta2003]

I agree

[speedsta2003]

I get my as$ wiped by V8 Z28 camaros in a straight line...I just hope that your sr motor would be able to wipe those camaros as$ses for me. They piss me off more than anything else.

[speedsta2003]

Quote »let it be said i vote for speedsta's ejection off the boards... from his other posts i gather hes a honda ricer in disguise. [/quote] Even if I was a Honda Ricer, why are you people so unwelcoming to people. It's not like Im saying your car sucks. It seems to me like you think your car's the shi*beep*, and every other car can go blow themselves.

[SRdS14]

man...whoever said somethin about the porshe guys has be frikken FUELED. makes me wanna go down the road and pull up next to a porshe and say the famous words "WHATS THE RETAIL ON ONE OF THOSE?" hehe we all know the rest from there.

singlecivickillah: spoon civic huh?? are you SURE he doesn't have just the spoon radiator cap?? cuz i think with or without a damn vtec he'd whip ur azz.~Scott

[APEXi240]

With or without v-tec a Spoon motor would rape you. Like I already said you cannot run a DX ecu on a DOHC B-series motor, YOU CANNOT, unless it is reprogramed, in which case there will still be no way to wire up the v-tec.

I don't understand (almost everything) Speedsta said, specifically that Nissans are less reliable...this statement can be farther from the truth. My mom has had a Sentra for 40k now and the only thing that was replaced was a recalled sensor (She bought the first year model of the "new" Sentras). I've driven my 240 for 30k now and have literally replaced nothing, just now I'm going to need some new bushings (at 110k). The only thing on my old Sentra that I replaced were belts, brakes, and a starter and alternator. This car went to 170k, and was still running fine when I sold it. Do not say that their reliability is worse because this is simply not true.