Concerns about CVT Trans

[kerrton]

Hey EP,

Glad to hear you've had some improvement in your driving experience.

There is a current thread devoted specifically to the CVT upgrade, here is the link.

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[heidi]

I also took my Rogue in last week for the CVT recall and found there was an improvement in performance. I would periodically hit "dead spots" during exceleration.....car felt like it wasn't getting any power. I also experienced the vibrations at lower speeds. During the first few months of ownership I took my Rogue back to the dealer a few times to have them check the vibration but they kept telling me it was nothing and that it was normal for the CVT engine to perform like that. Apparently, many other people also had the same complaint, so I assume it finally let to this recall. At least the the warranty on the transmission was doubled. At least if anything goes wrong, it will be covered. It's just a shame that it took so long for the engineers to finally realize (or admit) something wasn't right.

[kerrton]

I've stated this in the other thread, and I think it's important so....

The CVT reprogram was meant to "reduce a subtle rattling noise that may come from the transmission at low speeds", or presumably prevent this from occuring in the future. It does NOT mention anything about addressing the vibration you are talking about, in fact the vibration is a fuel-saving feature that Nissan purposely designed into the car.

That vibration occurs because of the high gearing of the CVT at "around town" speeds (40 - 60 km/hr). This programming was a result of Nissan choosing fuel efficiency over performance, HOWEVER, in my experience on this forum Rogue owners experience this effect in varying degrees, and I think it has to do with driving style and the learing function of the CVT. If you are a conservative driver, the CVT learns your habits and chooses more efficient gear ratios, creating a more pronounced vibration. If you're a lead foot, then your car will always be selecting a slightly lower gear ratio which renders the vibration non-existent.

This is supported by the fact that when you're experiencing the vibration, you can eliminate it at any given moment by simply pressing a little harder on the throttle, which prompts the CVT to slightly gear down, eliminating the lugging of the engine.

Your vibration may have disappeared simply due to the fact that your ECM and TCM memory was erased and you're starting from scratch, not necessarily because of the new programming. If you drive conservatively, the vibration may come back, which is what happened to my Rogue. I believe this is still normal operation for the CVT.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but just clarfiy that the re-program had nothing to do with the vibration you're referring to, and on my Rogue at least, the vibration is very much there and I accept it as normal.

Please report back after a few weeks of conservative driving, and let me know if your experience is the same as mine.

[kerrton]

There is a great resource online at JustAnswer.com (Nissan category) where you can access Nissan Master Technicians for answers to specific questions. They charge you like 9 bucks if you get an answer you're satisified with, and through a google search I discovered that someone had asked about the CVT vibration at "around town" speeds due to the high gearing of the CVT. The Tech's answer was really interesting, so I thought I'd share it:

"I would have the dealer loosen the sub frame and realign it , we had a rogue with a vibration this is what fixed the vibration, the front engine support was on a bind , I have also seen a few with bent exhaust hangers brackets, bent that can also cause this type of vibration, let me know if you have more questions, Thanks ROY!"

[patdeeee]

Since I have the problem of vibration in a Maxima CVT transmission, I took the time to read all the posts on this subject to date. My My MY. What am I hearing?

Well for one thing, the fact that a given person has not felt it, does NOT mean others do not feel it. And the fact that it does not bother some is NO reason it does not bother others. And there is nothing wrong with a person who is bothered by something.

That skirts the issue. The problem IS real. Those of us that ARE bothered by it in most cases felt it from the beginning. The following are some facts:

1. You will NOT feel it if you take off quickly. Since MOST drivers do this, they are not going to feel it EVER! because it does not do it then. But if you are a conservative driver or find yourself in stop and go traffic MOST will feel it.

2. It is a subtle vibration that CAN be felt in the steering wheel, the gas pedal; AND in fact the enire car IS vibrating slightly. Some of course will not feel it. other don't care, but for those who do care and/or are bothered, it is not right.

3. It does NOT occur after 35-40 MPH. In most cases it does not happen until you have reached 17 to 20 MPH; and in almost all cases the vibration stops above 30MPH, IF, you accelerate slowly. Again, if you accelerate quickly you are not going to feel it.

4. While the CVT is causing the vibration, the vibration does NOT originate in the transmission. IE: the vibration is coming from the engine. And this is caused by the ratio of input/ouput speeds IN the transmission being TOOOO high at low speeds, UNLESS you give it more gas, which you should NOT have to!

5. I believe Nissan KNEW this when they designed the car. As one mechanic admitted to me, when he said yes when I said, "They are trying to milk as much gas mileage as they can and they are increasing the ratio quicker than it should be, to attain gas mileage better than the car is really designed to achieve.

It is here where the problem is. And it CAN be fixed, but it might not be easy to come by, albeit a slight reduction in gas mileage. Since it is quite complex how they change the ratio in this CVT transmission. And it might be that Nissan is hiding from it; as they are probably caught between a rock and a hard place.

In any case, it is for the birds and I for one hate the entire car because of it. It irritates me to no end. There is a NO cost/NO time fix, but one should NOT have to do it. And that of course is if you manually shift between those speeds. But who wants do do this on an automatice transmission?

Nissan SHOULD be run out on a rail for this lack of honesty and integrity. They KNOW it is happening. But they try to make everyone believe there is NOTHING wrong. But this is a lie. A bold faced lie.

Also, the dealers are just as guilty for not siding with the customer to force Nissan do to what is right for their customers. Incidently, I have just been handed a note that states there is now a programming fix for it by Nissan. I will call the dealer tomorrow. But I don't look for any miracles.

It is a sham, and they ought to round up the "powers to be" of Nissan and "shoot 'em like dogs" for this atrocity. Only kidding of course, but I am really upset about this.

pat

[harryg]

^ great post couldn't agree more...this vibration is REALLY annoying and has caused me to accelerate faster than I wish...I don't like doing this because, accelerating quick when the engine is cold is bad for it...and using the paddle shifters is too annoying

ive asked my dealer and they too said it is normal...unfortunately I didn't notice it during the test drives..maybe because I was pushing it a little...if I had noticed I wouldn't have bought it..even though other than this vibration, the rogue is great

unfortunately the CVT reprogram recall does NOT fix this vibration as others, myself included, have had it done already and it doesnt help with the vibration one bit...it is intended to stop the rattle noise some owners have had

[philipa_240sx]

I have to look back on this vibration issue and other complaints about noise etc...

Just a few short years ago, this would have been acceptable to a lot of people. It just goes to show you how far automotive technology has progressed and how much time is spent to reduce the noise and vibrations from cars. We now expect our cars to be totally isolated from the outside world.

Opinions may vary, but I do not feel Nissan intended to deceive anyone. They designed an engine and transmission to provide a balance of performance and good fuel economy. I'm sure they were well aware of low rpm vibrations and decided it was an acceptable trade-off.

[patdeeee]

I mean NO disrespect to any poster on this forum. However I must disagree that Nissan did not purposely do this. To suggest otherwise would totally disregard what Toyota did and is now in deep trouble with the US government. Also other auto manufacturers have been guilty of deception from day one. And history has proven time and time again that auto manufacturers WILL push the limit until they are FORCED not to.

They hide behind many things and SO do the dealers. A customer is often in between the manufacturer and the dealer where BOTH play innocent to KNOWN problems they can't OR have no intentions of fixing.

Such is the case with this CVT transmission. The problem is simple. The belt is advancing to a higher ratio too quickly. And the REASON for this is to milk the maximum gas mileage, so as to remain competitive. It is that simple. And it should NEVER have been done.

The transmission is an excellent transmission. When manually "moving the belt" it is as smooth as can be, with NO vibration. Zilch, nada! NONE!

But in automatic at slow speeds when accelerating slowly, as ALL conservative drivers do, there IS a noticable vibration between the speeds of approx' 20~30 MPH. It is there. While I have not driven many of these cars, a number of them do have the dilemma. And for many owners of them, it is as annoying as hell. It IS an atrocity and I believe it was deliberate on the part of Nissan for the aforementioned reason.

I am so exasperated by this malady that I literally hate an otherwise mostly great automobile.

Aside from the above, there is another problem I have not seen mentioned. And that is when the heater ONLY is on and the air is directed to the floor, there is a constant annoying blast of air that emits from the upper dasboard area. Never owned a car with this noisy airflow when using heat. NOT even on my former 3 Nissan Maximas!!

Guess what? Same ole, same ole!

"That is normal" the dealer says. NO it is NOT normal. It is wrong! The ONLY time you need that blast of air is when you are DEFROSTING the windshield! and at NO other time.

I for one will not stand idly by and put up with inferior design and a step backwards to fulfill the old adage, "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything all". That is BS and simply defies what Jesus said, when He called them, "Vipers and hypocrites".

Because THAT is what they are. I WILL echo that. A 40,000 dollar car that IMO is worthless as far as enjoyment. So sad.

Oh well.

may Jesus one day right ALL wrongs,

pat

[kerrton]

patdeee,

I respect your opinion and thank you for posting it up for discussion. However I have to disagree with some of what you have said.

For starters, I am intimately familiar with the vibration you are talking about, and if you find some of my posts from almost 2 years ago you'll see that I wasn't too happy about it when I first discovered it. I'm a conservative driver but not when I test drive, so I didn't discover this until I got the car home. I was angry because I believed there was a problem with the vehicle, but since then I have discovered exactly what you stated in your post: this vibration is completely normal, it was designed on purpose as a fuel saving feature. Everything in life is a trade-off, based on the laws of physics - I wanted a fuel efficient mid-size vehicle so Nissan gave it to me.

I strongly disagree with your statement that Nissan decieved us - in what way were we decieved? You said it in your post - Nissan designed the car this way on purpose, and they had good reason for it. They designed a vehicle with excellent fuel efficiency that delievers in the real world, and it has proven to have above average reliability and quality by most assessments such as TrueDelta (real world), Edmonds, and JD Power and the CVT now has a 10 year warranty to back it up.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't care for the vibration but I wasn't lied to or tricked into buying this car.

For comparison, I bought a 1989 Ford pickup truck, and it had the absolutely worst 5-spd manual transmission I've ever driven, and the engine was incredibly loud. The transmission took a magician to shift smoothly, and forget about downshifting into 1st unless you were at a dead stop! Many service shops assessed it and said "everygthings good, these Ford's just shift hard, but they last forever!". But I accepted these negatives because the positives outweighed the negatives, I still tell people how much I loved that truck despite it's shortcomings!! The car came with these shortcomings, it had a list of pros and cons, and even though the truck wasn't perfect and had it's negative aspects, I didn't believe Ford had decieved me. Of course they knew the transmission was rough, and that's ok, they didn't force me to buy their product and they didn't try to be deceptive.

Nissan designed the CVT and programmed it for efficiency, and the trade-off is a bit of vibrarion. As long as reliability is strong then I can live with that because I've owned many vehicles and they all have their shortcomings.

Another example: If you owned the Europan version of the Rogue, you might apply North American standards and say the 2.0 engine is underpowered and downright dangerous for highway passing. Using your logic, you could say Nissan knew the 2.0 was underpowered and dangerous and decieved us by not informing us of the shortcoming. You could call it a conspiracy to decieve the buyer, but the Qashqai is one of the highest selling vehicles in Europe and those owners would say the 2.0 has lots of power because they're used to smaller engines than we are.

Every vehicle has shortcomings, you won't find one that's perfect, definately not in the price range of the Rogue anyway. I don't like the vibration but I like everything else about the car so I think we're way ahead of the game. I feel for you though, buying a vehicle and then realizing it was the wrong decision really sucks. I hope it works out for you, perhaps after you drive it for a while you won't notice anymore like most Rogue owners.

[kerrton]

Hey Pat,

That's what this forum is about, we're not Nissan employees and we want honest opinions as long as we abide by the basic rules of conduct and remain respectful. You've done this so don't apologize for your opinion, maybe through discussion we can even come up with more ideas on how to address the issue.

Regarding your heater issue, I'm sure I don't have this problem and I don't remember reading about this issue, I'd be persistent and try to get the dealer to address it. Since this seems to be a new topic you may want to create a seperate topic for it and see if anyone else has had the issue, and if they've had it fixed.

You make some good points regarding the high gearing and resulting vibration. BUT, I strongly disagree with your comparision to the Toyota brake safety issue. A vibration or noise in a vehicle is not even close to a serious safety issue that can result in crashes, death or serious injury. We both agree that Nissan designed the CVT with this early, high gearing for around-town driving to increase fuel efficiency, and Nissan is VERY UP FRONT about this, it's in the press releases for the Rogue, and I've read it in at least one more article specifically about the CVT.

Nissan is very open about the CVT design and programming, there is no deception. That doesn't mean we have to like it, but I don't believe they've hidden anything from us. It has not produced any physically dangerous conditions that I know of, so I think this boils down to a prefernce thing. I had a Saturn Ion previously, and it's engine was so loud that I NEVER revved it about 2500 rpms or the noise and vibrations were unbearable. The engine was the opposite of smooth, incredible noise and vibration, and I cursed GM for the poor design, but I didn't feel they had wronged me in any way. As a consumer I applied free will in the purchase, and couldn't blame my poor decision on being tricked or decieved by the manufacturer. I didn't like it, so I sold it and bought a Rogue, that's consumerism. If there was a safety issue, or mechanical defect that's a different story.

[kerrton]

Yeah guys we need to keep the religious talk out of the discussion please, that is one of rules of conduct for this forum.

Keep the conversation on the topic of Nissan vehicles - we respect all religious views but they have no place here.

mpattdu, I removed your post with the religious joke, as there was nothing in there regarding the Nissan Rogue.

Thank you.

[patdeeee]

I did NOT mean to imply that Nissan was in conspiracy.

If you read the sales brochure on the 2007 Maxima, which I purchased brand new in the fall of 2007, it clearly states a glass (paraphrasing) smooth transmission. That turned out to be a lie. It is NOT smooth under the parameters I laid out in my previous posts. They KNEW the car vibrated at lower speeds, IF one accelerated slowly. By not saying this, as an exception in their sales brochure, it was UN professional and tantamount to a lie. Thus it is sales deception.

For IF they had noted it, I would NOT have purchased the car.

As to test driving a car before, we must realiize that it is simply impossible to notice everythig in a test drive that will emerge as one gets acclimated to a new car. So this argument IMO is not sound.

I also dissagree totally that because the CVT Problem is not safety related it is not the same. I find this to be totally irrelevant, respectfully. I bought a car in trust. The manufacturer of that car KNEW there was a problem in it under certain driving situations. They failed to POINT this out in plain verbage in their sales brochures. This IS a crime and the United States government should go after them on this, even though it is not safety related. For it is false advertising. And that IS a crime.

They NEED to be prosecuted for this; OR give a full refund for false advertising.

Again, I will not stand idly by and sweep this under the rug to placate a manufacturer who is so calous and non caring that they just called me and said, "There is nothing we are going to do about it". I just hung up the phone listening to that comment from Nissan. This IS a crime if there ever was one.

I intend to check into the possiblity of a "class action" law suit against Nissan and the dealer. I do not expect I will be able to afford it. But I am going to give it a try. In addition I intend to call several TV and radio stations and alert the news media also.

This is NOT right. It is dead wrong. The fact that some are not bothered by it and others have not noticed the problem is no sign the problem is not there. I am so irritated by it that I hate to drive the car now. And apparently there are others who feel the same. Also, Nissan admitting that the problem exists, in NO way relieves them from the obligation to DO something about it, EVEN though it is not safety related. For it is still just as wrong.

I will NOT give up my fight against Nissan.

IMO, They are criminals. They are vipers, and they are hypocrites for allowing such an atrocity.

may Jesus right ALL wrongs,

pat

[kerrton]

I see where you're coming from, but when you get into analyzing marketing semantics and comparing the wording to reality, it's a tough fight.

Every product's marketing can be challenged in some way. Coca-Cola may call their product "refreshing", when in reality drinking a can of Coke hurts my stomach and makes me feel the opposite of refreshed. One product may claim to be "smooth", but how to do quantify "smooth", or prove it to be so when it is a subjective term.

My point being, marketing is designed to highlight the good points of a product and build it up with terms that are difficult to quantify. It's tough to take a company to court and argue if their product is in fact "smooth", and how smooth is smooth enough? How do you measure it?

Getting back to the Rogue, I agree it's not as smooth as it could be, I have more of a problem with the surging effect of the CVT when the torque converter locks and unlocks under light throttle and light gradual braking. But this is the way the car is designed and if I don't like it I am not obligated to keep the vehicle or to purchase Nissan products in the future. It's the old Coke vs. Pepsi debate, if you don't like one and you think the marketing is a lie, do you take them to court or do you just stop buying the product?

Since it sounds like you've chosen to stand your ground on this, I wish you lots of luck and please post back and let us know how things go. There is bound to be others on here who feel as you do.

And please keep the religious references out of this forum and stick to the issues with your Nissan, otherwise I'll have to remove it from your posts to ensure we follow the NICO rules of conduct. Thank you.

[Pescakl1]

If you think Nissan lied to you and you have proof of that, so sue them.

That is why lawyers are here for, right? You have proofs and evidences, it should be an easy one.

BTW, it is the Rogue forum here, not the one for the Maxima.

[IdaCrue]

I haven't noticed a vibration in my Rogue. Of course I started driving in the 60's, so I guess I must have a higher tolerance for rattles, shakes, vibrations, and other inconveniences. With the price of gas going up again, I am glad they compromised a little comfort and designed the Rogue to get good gas mileage.

[going rogue]

They designed an engine and transmission to provide a balance of performance and good fuel economy. I'm sure they were well aware of low rpm vibrations and decided it was an acceptable trade-off.

This is the truth, plain and simple. And, I DO notice a significant reduction in low rpm vibrations since the CVT reprogram.

[Low n Slow]

They designed an engine and transmission to provide a balance of performance and good fuel economy. I'm sure they were well aware of low rpm vibrations and decided it was an acceptable trade-off.

This is the truth, plain and simple. And, I DO notice a significant reduction in low rpm vibrations since the CVT reprogram.

Hello all,

I bought my 2009 Rogue S AWD about a month ago and so far I’m very happy with it.

After driving it a few days though I noticed the vibration between 15 and 40 mph caused by the transmission lugging the engine. For a while I was really paranoid that I had bought a lemon or that I would need some major transmission work done until I searched this site and found that it was apparently designed that way.

I’ve read numerous posts about a software upgrade that fixes this, but when I called my local Nissan dealer to ask about it they said they haven’t heard of it.

Does anyone know the name or title of this software so I can refer it to the dealer? Thanks for any info!

[kerrton]

Hi there Low n Slow,

I'm shocked that your Dealer could be so uninformed, this was a significant voluntary recall campaign by Nissan that affected all 2008 - 2009 Rogues, and looking at the bulletin this morning it does state that some 2010 Rogues are affected as well. Call your dealer again and quote this Nissan Recall/Bulletin number and tell them to get on top of this important issue for you - your car may have had the update but you should confirm this and get it done if required (free of charge on warranty of course):

Nissan Bulletin No. - Voluntary Service Campaign NTB09126

Some model year 2008 - 2010 Rogue vehicles may have a rattle noise from the transmission at low speeds. Nissan is conducting this Voluntary Service Campaign to remedy this potential condition. This campaign will entail reprogramming the Transmission and Engine Control Modules (TCM and ECM) and, for 2008 models, checking the transmission fluid level at no charge for parts or labor. See this bulletin for further detail.

Also, here is our extensive discussion thread on this update with lots of good info:

anyone-get-the-new-transmission-update-t469102.html

[squazimo]

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[rogue murano]

Does your vibration start about 25 MPH and if you give gas slowly up to 40 MPH the vibration gets worse? When you remove your foot from the gas pedal does it stop. If the dealer says this is normal ask them where its coming from and what are the specsifactions of normal to abnormal vibration they should be able to tell you. Make sure they put it in writing on your repair order. Nissan did extend the cvt transmission but they did not extend the warrenty of damage caused by abnormal vibrations.

[walt227]

I recently found this article in the Detroit Free Press and think it is somewhat germaine to this topic. On the surface as well as deep down, I share some of the sentiments echoed by patdeee and others I am annoyed by the cvt vibration to no end. While I have discussed this concern with the dealership and Nissan's customer service the reply has been, as stated here, that this is a normal part of the cvt. I too think I am more angry about this because of Nissan's literature which describes the cvt as "silky smooth" as well as touting it's gas milage. What a crock. However, I also tend to agree that this is marketing or rather corporate propaganda and a case of buyer beware and/or buyers remorse. Very few manufacturers are going to point out problems/quirks or potential problems/quirks with their products--even though they perhaps should. I think this is somewhat the point of the embedded article. I wonder how many Rogue sales Nissan would have lost/lose if they took potential customers on a quiet road, pointed out the "vibration," and told customers that the vibration is a trade off for slightly better gas milage. My guess is quite a bit. While I'm not sure that the cvt is new technology as the article addresses but, obviously, Nissan's cvt obviously comes with some pluses and minuses and perhaps that should be pointed out to potential buyers particularly those who may be first time Nissan cvt customers.

http://www.freep.com/article/20110814/C ... uto%20news


Mods. I know there is a more recent thread regarding the vibration issue. I did not want to post twice so if you think there is an advantage to posting this in the new thread plead do.

[casperfun]

I think as the years past, a new Rogue owner complains about the CVT vibration and how they are not happy and want to complain to Nissan Corporate, perhaps broke, defective, a lemon, yada yada yada, so your not alone.

The funny part is that I never really noticed the vibration until I read about it in the forum. Only for me only, the so-called vibration is miniscule at most.

I also know it is all relative since one person's smooth ride may be another person's rough ride.

Well I also agree that Nissan knows about this so called issue and should tell their salesperson to inform the customer.

As for myself, I feel that the Rogue is very smooth even though it has a little roar to the 4 cyl. engine at times. I occassionaly am aware of the vibration when my mind is set to look for it if that makes any sense.

But to me, the Rogue accelerates like a golf cart in a sense that it is smooth without the shudder while changing speed. So to me it is so called silky smooth.

I also understand if you the vibration bothers you, then you should not tolerate that either if that is not what you paid for.

[funissan]

vibrations are not normal.if you feel a vibration the dealer must investigate it. if they claim it is normal and Nissan North America or dealer management neglect to do a basic diagnose procedures you might want to hire a lawyer. here is a video of my 2009 rogue in which NIssan North America stated is normal www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__bST39f90 . all the dealer has to do was run it in drive up on a hoist. unfortunately in my case NIssan told d!ck scott nissan and suburban nissan in mich to not repair or inspect my rogue because i had to file a BBB case to force nissan to repair a defect that they are fully aware of

[casperfun]

The vibration on the video is not the same vibration we are talking about with the CVT. The vibration I feel personally is a miniscule vibration that is felt occassionally in the steering wheel.

The Rogue in the video is some type of defect where the engine is shaking, knocking ( but not the engine oil knocking situation ) or some type of vehicle shudder going on. Now that is not normal for sure.

As for the BBB, personally I had to complain on some work my previous Nissan dealership did on my maxima. I soon learned that the BBB is a complete scam and really does not help since all a company has to do is pay the BBB to be certified or what not. Or to get membership. It's like paying to get good marks even though their business really sucks.

I learned that about the BBB. Totally not helpful when I needed them. You can complain to the BBB then they contact the company and nothing is really done. A joke is all the BBB is, at least in my area.

Eventually, you really need to take them to court to make it right if anything. Of course they will pay for a lawyer which ends up more than the repair.

[funissan]

according to Tamoroff Nissan in michigan its the same vibration has every rogue.. according to Suburban NIssan its the same vibration has every rogue... according to the Nisaan Field Engineer that inspected my rogue at Tamaroff NIssan its the same vibration.. accord to Nissan North America sworn testimony my rogue vibrates the same has every rogue. i would suggest to be cautions and be on the safe side and have them to do a hoist inspection while the car is running in drive. i read in a previous post that nissan tells the tech to test drive the suv and if it vibrates no more diagnose is necessary. thats unacceptable..unfortunately the blame will fall to the tech for negligence even thou he did what he was told..nissan has i believe 9 vehicles with cvt transmission and the rogue is the only one that vibrates? common senses should tell everyone something is wrong? the rogue is the only vehicle they what good gas mileage and thats why it vibrates? when Nissan told there dealers not to repair my rogue and falsify the repair orders stating there is nothing wrong was unexcusable. all i can say is i hope everyone that feels the vibration takes it in and have a hoist inspection while the rogue is running in drive.. it only takes 5 minutes to be on the safe side. if they refuse take it to a GM or Ford or any other dealer . i hope no one has my problem
video link was :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__bST39f90[/youtube]

[philipa_240sx]

Um... funnissan,

You only needed to post the link to the video once, not 14 times. It's just a forum etiquette thing, that's all.

I've deleted the extra ones. I've also properly embedded the Youtube video you posted.

Cheers,

philipa_240sx - Rogue Forum Moderator

[funissan]

thanks, its my first time on a forum. first time also putting up a vidio up on you tube.

[philipa_240sx]

No problem funissan! Welcome to the NICOClub Rogue Forums!

[kerrton]

according to Tamoroff Nissan in michigan its the same vibration has every rogue.. according to Suburban NIssan its the same vibration has every rogue... according to the Nisaan Field Engineer that inspected my rogue at Tamaroff NIssan its the same vibration.. accord to Nissan North America sworn testimony my rogue vibrates the same has every rogue. i would suggest to be cautions and be on the safe side and have them to do a hoist inspection while the car is running in drive. i read in a previous post that nissan tells the tech to test drive the suv and if it vibrates no more diagnose is necessary. thats unacceptable..unfortunately the blame will fall to the tech for negligence even thou he did what he was told..nissan has i believe 9 vehicles with cvt transmission and the rogue is the only one that vibrates? common senses should tell everyone something is wrong? the rogue is the only vehicle they what good gas mileage and thats why it vibrates? when Nissan told there dealers not to repair my rogue and falsify the repair orders stating there is nothing wrong was unexcusable. all i can say is i hope everyone that feels the vibration takes it in and have a hoist inspection while the rogue is running in drive.. it only takes 5 minutes to be on the safe side. if they refuse take it to a GM or Ford or any other dealer . i hope no one has my problem
video link was :

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-__bST39f90[/youtube]

That's an interesting video of a Rogue that obviously has serious problems. However, I would say there is no connection to the vibration that most of us are discussing here. The low-speed vibration that most are discussing is subtle, and only occurs within a narrow rpm and speed range, it is similar to driving a manual transmission in a high gear at lower speed (ex. using 5th gear around town). And I believe this specific vibration to be normal and I accept it.

The Rogue in your video shows excessive vibration, and it is present at all rpms and all gears - basically it is constant and gets worse as the engine speed increases - this is very different than the typical case discussed here. I can only speculate that the Rogue in the video would shake like crazy the faster you were to drive, and at highway speeds the vibrating and shaking would be excessive to the point of not even being able to drive.

The one thing that I think the video was lacking was a diagnosis and recommendation for repair - what was the cause and repair, or was it a mystery?

I'm not dismissing your troubles, I just don't want to confuse the extreme issue in the video with the "by design/normal" minor vibration.

[TaiLuu]

I thought that transmission Mount was gonna snap lol .
Thats not Vibration thats at the point were you wanna say its Shaking.
Thats a lot of torque.
It's like what kerrton said. It's like being in 6th gear @ 1.25K RPM. Thats close to idle so you car with struggle to keep that gear turning.