Cartune Motorsports / Neishlin Motors Reviews

[happe626]

ah the main post was about Cartune in Cali, but i guess it does extend its relationship with Cartune Texas, sad though since Tom is no longer with Cartune Cali, and to some extent he did got screwed from the owner in cartune cali out of his 2JZGTE 95' GS300, which was a very fast sports sedan & a 91 R32 Skyline.

well next topic engines.... if you think neishlin/cartune gets good engines, go to the source. since the company is a middle man.

Engines / Clips

GSPEED Corp.12519 Cerise Ave.Hawthorne CA 90250Tel: (877) SPEED-08Note : best source for the S13 Panels etc.

Winstar Auto Dismantiling 470 South Mira Loma Drive, Azusa, CA 91702 (626) 812-7000 Note : rep = tim ; provides engines to cartune from 04/02-present. also have body parts seperate, and most clips come with rear subframe

Y L M Auto Wrecking 722 Alpha Street, Duarte, CA 91010 (626) 303-0877 Note : rep = peter ; provides engines to cartune from birth-present. also have honda, rx7, s15, their clips usually come with panels good stuff

Jays Auto Wrecking 828 Alpha Street, Duarte, CA 91010 (626) 303-3693 Note : rep = jay ; similar to YLM, theyre like next door

ABCD 9828 Alpaca Street, South El Monte, CA 91733 (626) 279-9828 Note : rep = michael, rick ; provided engines for neishlin from 07/01-01/03 & they do the SR20 installs; not the best job, but the price they charge relates to their work quality at least=)

well these places only apply to Southern Californians; or local... and these are mostly Junkyards. so you cannot just go there and say i want this.. No.. heres how to buy and save.first Call to check for inventory or drop by and see. if they don't have it ask them when they will get a shipment. do not ask them to call you, because they won't do so.. just check periodically. and when they do have it be sure you get there fast to claim your stuff. ususally they do not deliver thats why its better if you are a local guy. (ah so-cal people get all the benefits) but if you were to pick itup all you need is a U-Haul Tralier (6x7ft), the U-Haul $19.95 truck, or a Tow Truck to pick it up.

remember quantity you will save.

and heres the margin prices. so it is possible for you can buy it for this price, and if they are being hard tell them you will shoot them a $100 for that price. (who said it was a easy job.) but in the end you would end up saving thousands.they have big forklifts to load the parts. and all but ABCD will give start-up warrenty. if not then just shoot them another bill its still worth it.

S13 Red / Black $1500-$1600S14 $2500-$2700S15 $3700-$4500

so you can expect to pay this much. blah remember to always pay in cash, they like it that way. and if you intend on calling them on International shipping, don't bother. and this is more business so do not complain about service.

and if you need installation goto ABCD, Motorex (hear many praises) or one particular where a dozen have praised

Phase 2 motortrend13177 Ramona Blvd. Ste#GIrwindale, CA 91706Tel: (626) 338-8314the place is small, but i havn't heard a bad thing yet. please note that they only do like 2-5 swaps a month.

[Megaseth]

i just saw this post and the first thing that popped into my head was the one here in Texas. I met the guys and they seem to know their stuff. and i did hear one of the guys telling us that he gave up his 240 for a SC or GS or something and they showed up in an R32,gunmetal, at the DNE meet. i really hope these arent the same guys or places. i was thinking about doing business with them soon, but after reading this, i think i might go to CTC.

[DirtyDrifter]

These are the same guys and thats the way he does it he gets you all hyped up and then once you give him your money then he shows his tru colors. An sr swap should only take 2 to 3 days Cartune tx can take up to a week or two. plus they charge alot. Now CTC is a much better business I like them but they do charge an arm and a leg. plus they have a waiting list. I recommend Entuning or my services cause I can do it at low prices quick and with out al the hassel. I worked for Car tune texas belive me if your not spending alot of cash then you will get ****ed around. So dont get sucked into the bull****. and good luck

[hokiruu]

This has become a very informative thread. Thank you again Happe626 for all the info. All the stuff these shops wish we didn't know...

[Megaseth]

Thanks. Although this infor is a little unsettling due to the fact that i was considering doing business with them, its makes me feel better that i havent. what shop are you with DirtyDrifter? i wont be doing anything for 3-4 years at the most, but it will hive me time to get my car set up and i would like to have a place that i can set up a good relationship with before i go through with what ever i any going to do to my car engine wise. thanks again.

[hokiruu]

The irony of it all is that this thread was started the day after Neishlin shipped me my motor. Lol. But not really.

[Megaseth]

Hahah, well hopefully things will work out for you. That would really suck if they had "difficulties" or something getting you the motor.

[Fibercus]

Just found this thread as well, and found it informative but I have to say my encounter with them was A+ thus far. Although I did not have any servicing done, i did pickup a s14 SR motorset and it came with a start up warranty & Jason & Dave there at the shop were both realy cool / helpfull guys...

Just got the motor home lastnight and tomorrow im going to begin preping it, etc. Hopefully all goes well, and I got a good motor.

*prays*

Hate to bring up an old thread, but being that this was about Cartune. I thought I would make an update

[hokiruu]

Just found this thread as well, and found it informative but I have to say my encounter with them was A+ thus far. Although I did not have any servicing done, i did pickup a s14 SR motorset and it came with a start up warranty & Jason & Dave there at the shop were both realy cool / helpfull guys...

Just got the motor home lastnight and tomorrow im going to begin preping it, etc. Hopefully all goes well, and I got a good motor.

*prays*

Hate to bring up an old thread, but being that this was about Cartune. I thought I would make an update

Hey its actually great that you rbought this thread up again, because my swap is not finished yet either. I prepped my engine last 2 weekends and am installing it tomorrow. They or whoever they use are also converting my harness, with JDM gauge cluster. Shouldn't be hard, we'll see how it turns out. Good luck with your swap!

[happe626]

Wondering which Dave is it?is it an asian one w/ teg?

or cocuasian driving gunmetal 240?

because 1 of them daves carry a funny story ^^

and as for friendly/helpful, i never really been to a shop where they wern't friendly. i think people are over used this word to judge a shop and their work. (then again i can't blame you since they don't know how things run behind the scene.)

[Fibercus]

Wondering which Dave is it?is it an asian one w/ teg?

or cocuasian driving gunmetal 240?

because 1 of them daves carry a funny story ^^

and as for friendly/helpful, i never really been to a shop where they wern't friendly. i think people are over used this word to judge a shop and their work. (then again i can't blame you since they don't know how things run behind the scene.)

"or cocuasian driving gunmetal 240?" - Bingo

I sold him my old seats and he came over to pick them up @ my place last night and stayed for about 3 hours checked out the motor a bit more. Tomorrow im meeting up with him b4 we hit the jspec garage sale.. bringing my exhaust mani / turbo for them to check it out... bolts were all lose when I took off shields and seems to be in pretty "worn" condition (some shaft play).. im thinking it got swapped sometime while the motor was in the garage =[ I will post an update tomorrow when i get some more info..

"because 1 of them daves carry a funny story ^^" Do tell ? =p

[happe626]

well amazing because dave is an annoying person. (if you didn't noticed that already.) 40yrs old and still praising the 240 as best car made or somthing like that. i bet he already bored you with the hes being doing import etc etc for some years..

but this is not the funny part.yet its the reason when i worked at cartune, NOBODY there liked Dave. Hes always bragging in going to get this and get that but we all know hes short on $$$ (at least don't have enough to start investing on these kind of projects) Im wondering why he still hangs around there? (alerting he has no life..) I mean everyone talks **** about him. (including me) I remember one time Sam always let dave him his comp there, and Dave kind of left his email on Auto-login, so they snooped around his email and found ridiculious pictures of dave. well they told everyone else to admire the pictures, which i though was funny because dave had an yellow afro ^^.

but anyways thats not the bad part, i remember one time Sam lent Daves car to one of my customers in Fresno. At his time his car was only running on 3.5 cylinders. Dave didn't know his car was lent to someone else until a week later. My customer ended up coming back and forth to LA for about 2 trips. Probably put about 2-3 thousand miles or something. Amazing when we got daves car back, there was a black panty on the back trunk. Funny though we confronted dave and he said it wasn't his. (I love my customers :rolleyes but anyways even though he knows cartune enjoys using him he still stays there and praise them.

and yes dave does know how cartune operate, and im guess right now they are probably going to try to do some reform to regain the publics trust, and repeat history again. but as far as most of the previous customers who have contacted me about their case, their attitude towards changed, when everything started becoming clear.

NOBODY should be intimated by their work, its just normal stuff, and i am happy that they are no longer using my website. but another funny thing i saw was a picture of the s14 w/ purple S13 top on their main page to show off to the public. i don't think they shouldve use that customers picture, since that was nothing to be proud of, rather to be ashamed of.

Its a Black 1998 SE w/ 20,000miles odometer story.Orginally came to cartune for a S14 Clip BASIC engine swap (as you can see later its not a basic swap). Sam of course sent the car to ABCD. well it turned out that ABCD couldn't do the swap, or at least finish it, when the car returned 4days later, it was running, but running so rich it couldn't boost. Well since Cartune didn't know how to fix it either, Sam told the owner of S14 that he would send it to SP engineering to have it fixed. All this time the owner asked if its going to SP will he have to pay, Sam implied a "No"... weeks fly & now SP say they don't have time to do it. So some more time fly (like 1.5months), and Sam told the owner that he will do a S13 Blk with goodies like intercooler,bov, battery, FPR, radiator, fans, Fuel Pump, exhaust etc. The owner agreed, but sam gave him the impression that its about its all for the same price as S14 invoice. but 1 week later, car was done, runnning and stuff, and now bill turns out 2.5k more than stock S14 swap, Obviously the guy was like WTF? but Sam convince him to just make payments. Well some more weeks passed by and the customer drop off the car 2 seperate times w/ note on paper of problems. on the second time he dropped it off, he said he was going to HK for about 2weeks. Of course during 13 days, Cartune was using the car for a loaner of themselves. 1 day before he was expected to come back then they finally started to inspect the car and noticed transmission / clutch was dead. but the customer didn't return to the states for another 2 days, so that problem was fixed till a couple of more days to come. Well when he got back from HK he brought in some goodies (GReddy Profec E-01)and asked cartune to install it since they was still working on the car. Well 1 week passed and Boost controll was installed, but they kept the car for a bit, and one day Sam and tom wanted to go to pasadena and because of the ghetto ternimal wiring when they used an odyssee battery, they only used black wire tape to hide the wire, but it stretch and was exposed(and dave knows this part=) they said smoke started coming out and there was a fire. (this was the electrical problem that the customer complained on the 2nd time the car was returned=) well nothing important was burned just the battery & fuel cover (which they replaced by a clip). And all pretend that nothing happened.Well even until before i left, he still had the open balance he couldn't pay, since hes a full-time student.Also the S13 Engine was off a motor set (low-blow=). Since sam know he convinced him on going FMIC.

o yea and if you think its clean looking, just have y our valve-cover painted in body shop too=) Secrets Revealed

hokiruuso they say they're not done wit the harness yet?

[SCOOBYSHAG]

I have heard bad things about Sammy at Cartune Texas also..I think he used to be at Boost Factor if I am not mistaken?

[happe626]

yes sammy is used to be boost factor, im not familar with cartune texas procedures, but i heard they too rounded up alot of trouble along with the one i mentioned cartune motorsports/neishlin

[hokiruu]

My swap is pretty much finished, except for a few vacuum lines (which I still don't know where they go yet) and the harness, which I sent to Alex at Cartune last Weds. He said they will start it Tues. and hopefully I will have it before the week after. I am keeping my fingers crossed...

[SCOOBYSHAG]

good luck!

[hokiruu]

Mailed my harness to them priority mail on 6/26. I am still waiting. However long it takes, I just want everything to work. Wayne @ Phase2 told me he had heard rumors that someone from Motorex is handling their wiring for them, and if that is the case, it should be a well done job. I really hope they hurry up and get it to me. This is the the final step and it's been more than 2 weeks! The weird thing is I called last Wed. and they told me it was finished and they would mail it to me. Well no harness last week or this week so I call again and they tell me they are still working on it. I hope they actually have an s14 harness and aren't waiting for a new shipment of clips to come in or something. They also still need o give me the ECU and MAFS. Keeping my fingers crossed...

[Fibercus]

Mailed my harness to them priority mail on 6/26. I am still waiting. However long it takes, I just want everything to work. Wayne @ Phase2 told me he had heard rumors that someone from Motorex is handling their wiring for them, and if that is the case, it should be a well done job. I really hope they hurry up and get it to me. This is the the final step and it's been more than 2 weeks! The weird thing is I called last Wed. and they told me it was finished and they would mail it to me. Well no harness last week or this week so I call again and they tell me they are still working on it. I hope they actually have an s14 harness and aren't waiting for a new shipment of clips to come in or something. They also still need o give me the ECU and MAFS. Keeping my fingers crossed...

Make sure you have them check your getting the right ECU for that harness ( Zenki / Kouki) theyll probably get it right since correct harness will only fit respective ECU. EDIT: Also I from what Ive found out, they do get there wiring done @ Motorex. You got a sure-fire harness... Update us when you get it FIre that bad boy up hehe

[happe626]

Well if it is true that motorex is doing the wiring, then yes it will be a good one,

just to let you know that motorex never take longer than 3-4 days to do a wiring. this is the slowest, fastest is several hours obviously @ motorex experience level.

Please note that they ship using UPS, cheapest and fastest.

and there is a Tracking #, so if they did shipped it then they should have it.

If they do'nt give you a tracking #, then it is well true that they are giving you the run-arounds which is no suprise to me

you can call and just request for a honest answer, see what they say. (i can almost guess its going to be more run arounds.)

[hokiruu]

yeah, I have a feeling they actually did finish the harness last weds. when I called, but don't have something else they owe me, like the ECU and MAFS

[Trppen37]

wow interesting stuff to read, I dunno if you remember this 90 blue mr2 with a carbon fiber hood and piaa headlights white 5zigen rims and the owner is Paul, hes my cousin, and for some reason they lagged on the install, did they use that car as a loaner or something? looks like im goin to ABCD to get my engine swap or something unless anyone else wants to contribute to the list ?

[happe626]

yea, i remember paul w/ blue mr2.well in his case he did get a good deal and nothing went wrong on his install.

[hokiruu]

Well just as I thought. The harness was completed withing a few days (fibercus verified it was done by Ken @ Motorex), so when they said it was done they weren't lying. But predictably, the ECU they owe me was incorrect, it was Zenki and not Kouki. So they are trying to get me a kouki ECU. What I don't like is that I paid for a whole front clip, and didn't get an ECU and MAFS. That would be fine if they could send it to me in time. Except now the only thing delaying my swap's completion is the fact that I am missing simple but important parts I paid a good amount of money for months ago.

[Fibercus]

Well just as I thought. The harness was completed withing a few days (fibercus verified it was done by Ken @ Motorex), so when they said it was done they weren't lying. But predictably, the ECU they owe me was incorrect, it was Zenki and not Kouki. So they are trying to get me a kouki ECU. What I don't like is that I paid for a whole front clip, and didn't get an ECU and MAFS. That would be fine if they could send it to me in time. Except now the only thing delaying my swap's completion is the fact that I am missing simple but important parts I paid a good amount of money for months ago.

I know for a fact they have a Kouki ECU because about 2 days ago I returned my kouki one in for a zenki one (gave me kouki with zenki motor on accident)

Maybe I got your ECU ? Make sure the part number on it is right

I think it ends in 80F00 and the zenki ECU ends in 69F00

[hokiruu]

Damn! This is ridiculous. Yeah, that is probably what happened. On Friday they said they would probably have an ECU for me "in four days" so I better get my harness, ECU, and MAFS sometime next week.

[hadokenny]

i am planning to do a swap there cuz my friend recommended me there. They gave me a pretty good price for the estimate also. From what i heard from the boss was that he fired 2 guys becasue they were literally incompetent. They messed up the company's reputation by messing up shipping addresses, reciepts, and payemtns. I hope your not one of them...

[hokiruu]

Recently they are dissapointing me more and more. Here's the score so far:I buy an s14 motorset from them and also pay upfront for harness conversion.I'm moving and don't want the SR shipped to me for a week or two. I therefore say I'll call and give themthe shipping address when I'm ready.I get a tracking # for shipment week or so later anyway.Call and find out they pulled some address outta their butts and started shpping it there!Tell them to ship it to the shop where I do my work since it's already @ freight terminal.They say shipping will take about 1-2 weeks and will cost about $3-400.Two days later my motorset arrives on a busted up palette with no ECU or MAFS.Driver wants $600 and change for shipment for what the receipt says "computer parts COD (shouldn't that be freight collect?- there's a difference) 1500lbs. residential delivery."This is a 400lb motorset, not a clip. This is a professional automotive shop, not a residence. I wasn't there so my friend paid it so they wouldn't take my engine back.Neishlin/Cartune deny any involvement/responsibility for me being charged CLIP shipping for a MOTORSET and say there's nothing they can do. I hear that Sam the owner of Cartune is personal friends with the shipping company staff/owners. Due to the mistake on the address and the fact that they are friends, I am a bit skeptical about this and think Cartune is trying to make me pay for the address mistake. there is not sign of the wrong address on the shipping receipt, but it has other strange problems. Sam's resoning for $600 shipping being normal don't impress or convince me.I call and tell them I need the ECU and MAFS. They say they'll send the MAFS ASAP and send me the ECU when they send the harness.No MAFS.6/26 I send in my harness priority mail to be converted. 7/17 Still no ECU, harness, or MAFS, keep getting promises that they will have it to me four days from every phone call I make. I've been riding my friggin bike forever! They have the last 3 things I need to finish my swap.According to Fibercus (he lives close by them and has been helping me try to find out WTF is going on-thanks Marcus!) Ken @ Motorex who did my wiring finished a long time ago and they have an ECU for me laying around.This is BS and sucks... damn I'm glad I at least performed the swap myself...

[happe626]

i am planning to do a swap there cuz my friend recommended me there. They gave me a pretty good price for the estimate also. From what i heard from the boss was that he fired 2 guys becasue they were literally incompetent. They messed up the company's reputation by messing up shipping addresses, reciepts, and payemtns. I hope your not one of them...

hmm i was one of the 2 guys that left, but it was total 3, i heard the 1/2 owner left not too long after i did. i don't know the reason why he left, but i did know that he was suppose to put down $200,000 for the company and Sam did use his credit to get a $50k loan. but i did know that this guy lost 2 cars for investing in the company 1 GS300 & 1 illegal skyline (which he wanted legal.)

when i worked at cartune/neishlin i always put my job over everything else. i think i gave my sacrifice and got something out of it, knowledge. now im trying to go back to school and stay away from any work till later on. overall i would not ever regret working there since when we all started we all didn't know anything. so when i left, i left with a handful of knowledge about an automobile (hell i didn't even know what was a transmission, or engine=) i now know how stuff works, including the business itself, so i can shop smarter.

incompetent : hell sam can't even define the word, how dare he even use it. (Maybe its the least he could say, after what i said=)I did introduced the company to freight shipping, mech uniforms, majority ideas introduced to the Barney project, Car lift (otherwise they would still use the jack-stands and punchure holes in their customers car), fully automative website w/ engine inventory, customer rides (i left it at 100), and little bio of the people there. (which sky rocketed local / out-of-state sales, this is what I am known for.) , & eBay. so if i never brought these idea in im pretty sure NOBODY would know the name Cartune/Neishlin or knew what they didThis was my share for my min wage & i had to provide my own computer to work, if he would like call this imcompentent, u would see theres something wrong with the guy.

and if you are going to buy into sams crap about shipping addresses, reciepts, and payments.

first off i have proof they do under the table cash crap (i did do still have the companys financial rec. in my old comp.), so if he wants to blame me for bad reciepts, tell him do not use my name as an excuse, i can have the IRS over his butt for his tax fraud, i know the offices is in El monte, so tell him to shut his trap before i persue this matter. I always told him that this was not a good way to operate, but he never listens, and because of his under-the-talbe schemes, it made my job alot harder to keep track of financial records.. so hush.

and payments, its was the owner and his corrupt ways that started to accept payments from customer, who knew after a short period, there were like 40+customer with payment dues so if he wants to point fingers he should check himself.

and lastly, i do about 97% of the shipping when i was there and close to never shipped to a bad address, and for the times i did, i know i corrected it. this is on my customers behalf, but as for sams hell if you hang around him alot, you will know he forgets, or get mixed up, so he may give the shipper bad address etc, which eventually leads to trouble.

All i want to say is do'nt believe everything you hear, you should listen, but always do research to dig up the real facts, i am not too suprised with hokiruu deal, because i worked there so long i can predict whats going to happen.

o yea, as mentioned above i used to do the shipping. so as for shipping experience, they only have about 5months of that. i literally created the shipping procedures of them. also i know for a fact, there is not PERSONAL friend @ the shipping company.There may be a ternimal but every terminal from City to City is different. Wheither there is a friend or not, they pretty much CANNOT help you. Also funny, an motor set w/ hubs brake should be written as 800lbs Class 100, a front clip is 1500lbs. Class 150. You can check your Bill of Lading for what was written down.The higher the class/weight the more expensive. wondering what state are u from? 600 for shipping.. is it to residential?

one last final thought, your phrase "professional automotive shop"Professional as in doing something and making money for it, yes very true.but Professional as in doing something with higher standards, then re-read the post.

Hokiruu, i see through out this post you are already having your ups and downs, but damn man your an out of state guy, usually your in the crowd that is suppost to have the least troubles when dealing with this company=/, i gues things have really gone down the hole since the 3 guys left. because usually it was the locals getting most of the screwing, sad to hear its moving to the out-of-state consumers.

[hokiruu]

i am not too suprised with hokiruu deal, because i worked there so long i can predict whats going to happen.

o yea, as mentioned above i used to do the shipping. so as for shipping experience, they only have about 5months of that. i literally created the shipping procedures of them. also i know for a fact, there is not PERSONAL friend @ the shipping company.There may be a ternimal but every terminal from City to City is different. Wheither there is a friend or not, they pretty much CANNOT help you. Also funny, an motor set w/ hubs brake should be written as 800lbs Class 100, a front clip is 1500lbs. Class 150. You can check your Bill of Lading for what was written down.The higher the class/weight the more expensive. wondering what state are u from? 600 for shipping.. is it to residential?

one last final thought, your phrase "professional automotive shop"Professional as in doing something and making money for it, yes very true.but Professional as in doing something with higher standards, then re-read the post.

Hokiruu, i see through out this post you are already having your ups and downs, but damn man your an out of state guy, usually your in the crowd that is suppost to have the least troubles when dealing with this company=/, i gues things have really gone down the hole since the 3 guys left. because usually it was the locals getting most of the screwing, sad to hear its moving to the out-of-state consumers.

Happe: Thanks for everything. My motorset didn't even come with hubs. I am currently in New Mexico. It was delivered to what they called "residential"-and this also pertains to my statement "professional automotive shop." When I said that I was referring to the shop/space where I am doing my swap. In other words- NOT really any kind of residence so why was I charged for residential delivery. you said you can predict what is going to happen, so what should I do, what do you think is going to happen?

[happe626]

Hmm,So the engine was not shipped to a house?the $600 probably included a residential fee. but that only like +$40-70 depending on carrier

And you say your in New Mexico.. so is that where the engine was shipped to? That is pretty expensive if so.. because i though you may be in east coast and with resident address, then $600 is possible.. but if your in new mexico.. then that sucks.. whatever teh case is, since you have already paided for the shiping costs, there is no way you can get the difference etc, so you should not persue it..