Cartune Motorsports / Neishlin Motors Reviews

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

btw, those dudes in the pics dont exaclty look like thugs anyway, lol

Post by **Anand** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

California is the place to be!

Post by **SR180SX** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

the_invisible wrote:I am not really attacking them by the way they look, but I have never in my life seen people who look like them working on cars.

I seen a lot people looks just like them work on car in Japan.

Website · Post by **the_invisible** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

happe626 wrote:hokiruu : well i know its not them whos converting yoru harness if its an S14, they are either going to send it out to ABCD and have them do it, or the guy KEN from Motorex, becasue Ken is skilled and the Neishlin uses him because they can't do it. so when you get your harness, and where did they send it out to, and CREDIT THE RIGHT PEOPLE FOR THE WORK!. go Ken

the_invisible : you mother f***er! that dude in the van is me, argh you judge a book by its cover, lolz ignorant :pface , don't get confused by FUN Time and Work. you can say the people in cartune do have fun after work. & i am the one who made the whole website and took about 5000/5200 images on there. too bad now they gave the site to a newbie webmaster to maintain who made it look ugly & takes forever to load; s*** makes my good work look bad=( whao can't belive you got the wrong idea of those images.. you did get that out of the fun section.. besides you will not find any bad pictures. because when i did work there i was careful to not take anything that will damage us. too bad regret that so not much hard proof. but i know one of the customers goes to my school witht he big hole under his chassis, only if i had a digi cam, i could take a couple of shots

well at least the_invisible, i'll take you as a fan of my work! join the club ^^

Edwin is a great person, and Tom is like me, crazy mofo. so leave us alone ^^' we bring life to the company. & Tom not really smoking just posing, damn its the first day they got that car, can't they enjoy that? besides everyone on the pictures above was key figure of the company (even me), wonder why none of us are there anymore? for the record, everyoen who worked with NEISHLIN MOTORS until the recent one was VERY SKILLED in something (Electrical, Advertising, Piggy Bank). as of today people there are nothing but a buch of tainning mech on ginnue pigs (yoru car). then again, im critizing the practices that been excercised started about 1 year ago to present. where on numerous company meetings i did protested. (see asian guy me do care.) but i am like a decade younger then the upper offical, so we do it their way.

only skill people remaing is the owner and jason, everyone else is training. (trainign as in never worked on technical stuff about cars and now learning to do engine swaps.) this means over torqued or under torqued stuff which is not good. (i saw turbos/lines alot of s*** fall apart because of this..)

Please note, you are pretty ignorante to call the company, of course REPRESENTATIVE WILL TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, But they obviously won't want you to listen to what me have to say.

and last but not least, if they ever want to keep your car for days because they want to tune it, DO NOT LET THEM, because to fine tune the car you need a dyno, the rest if you have decent iq, you could figure it out.

nelly

okay, man, sorry. I didn't know that guy in the first pic was you. But again, I pulled that out from the fun section where you weren't wearing your mechanic suit.

anyways, whoah....you left them and are now talking behind their back. arent you afraid that they will come after you and have you killed or something?

What did they owe you anyways? A month worth of pay check or what?

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Hey invisible: your signature "bares" a typo for all to see... I can BARELY BEAR looking at it.

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Well the engine is here! It was a week early, so that cought me and my wallet a bit off guard, but it is at my shop. I am NOT impressed with the packing, as the pallette it came on was completely destroyed, smashed to pieces on one part. That is the fault of the freight company, though. The worst thing is that not one single opening on the motor was capped/sealed. There is sea-salt-air residual oxidation on the inside of the throttle-before the plate itself. The motor itself looks fine, except for a scratch on the valve cover. Of course the oilpan is mashed to hell, but I'm replacing that anyway. The throttle pulley is also a little bent, but no big deal. The second worst thing is the cost of shipping. $600 from LA to Santa Fe, NM? Even the freight company told me from LA to NJ is usually $500, and I'm not even halfway accross the country to NJ! Seems like I might have gotten raped on their mistake when they almost sent it to MA. I'm still trying to get to the bottom of it. Well one way or another, I have an s14 SR now, and that's whatis most important.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

i got mine shipped from florida to long island NY for under 300 bux

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Yeah, I got ripped. But it was $600, or send the engine back. The drivers don't care, they don't negotiate. I am going to have to call the main headquarters.

Jesse, what do you think about the openings being exposed? I know they only pulled it out of the clip a few weeks ago, but how bad do you think that is? Are there any measures I can take to try and reduce the chance of it harming the engine?

Post by **happe626** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

the_invisible wrote:okay, man, sorry. I didn't know that guy in the first pic was you. But again, I pulled that out from the fun section where you weren't wearing your mechanic suit.

anyways, whoah....you left them and are now talking behind their back. arent you afraid that they will come after you and have you killed or something?

What did they owe you anyways? A month worth of pay check or what?

ah dont' worry about it.. don't take it personal, i knew you didn't know.. :ylsuper troops!..

its not money they owe me.. hell its just my work..

but anyways..

o yea, as for shipping, you don't have to worry about opening (unless the engine fell off the truck when it was in the desert, and there was a desert storm ^^).. your fine, salt residue is normal. and one thing you should worry about is that if the pallet do break, do check the intake manifold, make sure the engine did't happen to roll when the pallet broke. (i know they no longer buy custom pallets, instead just find them by the other warehouses.) but if the engine did roll then when you actually get to start it... its going to be smoking for a while. till it burns off. but no harm done than its orginal condition it was imported in.

Post by **I H8 UR DSM** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

eya i wouldnt worry about it

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Good, good. No, the pallet was still somewhat intact and the engine was on it and completely covered in cardboard and shrinkwrap. Just a corner was busted off, and the exhaust housing bolts had broken through the top board they were resting on. The cool thing is that I got the original gauge cluster with it, and it has this cool texture with reverse b/w gauges and of course km/h. Oh yeah, original mile-er-kilometerage too. Now I have it on my desk @work so I can go "Whoooooossshhh-Psshhhttt!" all day.

Website · Post by **the_invisible** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

hey, what's up with the tach over revving?

Post by **SrS13** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Hey Happe,

This stuff is all very interesting. I know a guy named Jerry who got the swap done there like in january he was from Palm Springs what do you know about his swap??? any dirt on his swap other than what was previously stated that went on with the other customer's cars??/

I believe you when you say they cut their budget on parts. I remember him telling me that when he did his tune up Cartune put in Super Bosch spark plugs and an STP oil filter.I know these are not expensive brands but they are economical.

Post by **happe626** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

yea i know jerry,

hmm i belive jerry did pick up his old engine which was a good thing.. and as for the swap it self, didn't really witnessed anything out of the ordinary, it was done inhouse. and as for loaner, i think it was only for 2-3 days (i think it was alot longer, because i remember people who did drove it told me it was dying on one of the gears or something , but i forgot when jerry dropped off his car so not to exact on dates.) and parts they applied to everyone prior to april 2002.

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

the_invisible wrote:hey, what's up with the tach over revving?

Er, hopefully it stays like that because it is not getting any input. I dunno but that would be a bummer if it was busted. I'll have to check it out at the time the install. If it is broken, I'll buy another s14 cluster to trade the guts out to make this one work... I'm determined to have my 240 as thoroughly converted as possible, I even have the engine bay VIN plate;) Yeah, I'm a dork.

Post by **happe626** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

o yea, that cluster seems broken=)but if you already have a 97-98 240sx just use your orginal, so you can have speedo in mph. if you have 95-96 and you want ot use kouki cluster you need the complete cluster/dash harness.

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

I don't mind having the speed in km/h. I have a 95. Are you saying that the cluster won't fit, because it looks identical to my USDM one on the outside, or are you sayig that I need to have the JDM cluster harness converted to make it work? Please explain.

Post by **happe626** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

its nothing different between japan and us harness, its just on the cluster, there is a difference in kouki and zenki, kouki have several more plugs in the harness. so advise you keep your us zenki cluster.

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Awwww, NUTS!

Post by **drifting240** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

my friend had bought an engine from there and the transmission don't have a 5th gear or reverse.....and plus we had to wait for the freakin engine for a while and when we got it we had to wait for the distibutor and never received that so he had to by one himself! the owner just doesn't care i think! and i had another friend who bought a special advanced clutch and had them install it....and come to find out they put a normal oem clutch back in there.... that place is just bad....they have good stuff but don't plan on them for anything!! their cars get broken into at night(customer cars)..just not good...someone needs to sue them! well holla:mad:

Post by **BuudWeizErr** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

You know SR20's don't have distributors right?

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

happe626 wrote:its nothing different between japan and us harness, its just on the cluster, there is a difference in kouki and zenki, kouki have several more plugs in the harness. so advise you keep your us zenki cluster.

I don't know very much about wiring so please bear with me awhile longer. My car is Zenki and my motor is Kouki. Normally in this scenario is the cluster harness from the KA retained? Is there any way I can use the Kouki SR cluster harness during the wiring conversion to make the JDM cluster work? Sorry to be a pain but I really want to try to make this work, I hate my USDM gauges compared to the cool JDM ones.

Post by **S13240** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

I just picked up my Koyo Radiator from them today! The one in southern cali of course. Not bad guys at all!

Post by **SrS13** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

how much did you get the koyo for???

Post by **S13240** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

I got it for $300.

Post by **happe626** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

BuudWeizErr wrote:You know SR20's don't have distributors right?

hes probably talking about FWD or NA RWD... but if its RWD Turbo then distributor, well cartune texas is just as f*ked as the one i mentioned. i know the texas one is more skilled than the one in cali (overall both suxs anyways) they can convert the RWD Distributorless to distributor.

hokiruu :hmm didn't the people at cartune told you about the wiring stuff? well if you pull out your 240sx cluster , look in the back and you'll understand what needs to be done to convert it=) besides whats so good about the japan one? same as US just in KPh. and its always better to keep the cluster in MPH because when you sell the car, its accurate. instead of in KPH, its like 60% quicker (eventually is more of an inconvience than you think.) and you have to roll the miles back to normal for smog. but if you really want the 97-98 instrument cluster, get both US and Japan spec. ^^ and if you are a kouki freak, hell just sell zenki and buy kouki 240sx. (save more in the future in cluster, lights, body, etc.)

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

happe626 wrote: whats so good about the japan one? same as US just in KPh. and its always better to keep the cluster in MPH because when you sell the car, its accurate.

Well see that's just it, I'd rather have the cluster that came with the engine to show the engines real milage, than tell someone "I put in the SR with 35k miles on it, when the KA and chassis had 105k." But I probably will never sell my car anyway.

I would also like to have proper redline and a spedometer that doesn't top out at 120mph too. The there's the conversion authenticity thing too. But maybe you're right and I should just give up.

Post by **Phax** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

hokiruu wrote:Well see that's just it, I'd rather have the cluster that came with the engine to show the engines real milage, than tell someone "I put in the SR with 35k miles on it, when the KA and chassis had 105k." But I probably will never sell my car anyway. I would also like to have proper redline and a spedometer that doesn't top out at 120mph too. The there's the conversion authenticity thing too. But maybe you're right and I should just give up.

I've only glanced at my S13 speedo a couple of times, but I could have sworn that it tops out at 180kph, which is about 120mph. In other words, you're not going to benefit from swapping in the j-spec speedo.

The tach on the other hand, it does have a higher redline. I'm swapping the tach, and incorporating the A/F meter into the tach for easy readability.

Does the S14 speedo go higher than ~120mph? I easily pegged the tach with the stock KA24DE. I'm sure that the needle is going to floored quite often once I get the SR20DET in there. It would be nice to have a speedo that tops out closer to 140-150.

Post by **hokiruu** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

Phax wrote:Does the S14 speedo go higher than ~120mph? I easily pegged the tach with the stock KA24DE. I'm sure that the needle is going to floored quite often once I get the SR20DET in there. It would be nice to have a speedo that tops out closer to 140-150.

No, the s14 speedo is just the same, does up to 180 kmph. I would swap just the jdm tach, but the cluster shapes are a bit different inside (the zenki usdm tach/speedo overlap, kouki jdm do not) and apparently the tach on my kouki cluster is busted. Still dunno if I can fix it.

Post by **DirtyDrifter** » Sat May 10, 2003 5:10 am

To Start this off I think the 2 guys you were talking about in your first treat was me and sammy (owner of Cartune Texas) we both went out there to cali to work out the business deal and also helped get a few cars working.

I was painting cars for Sammy here in texas I was supposed to paint four cars for him. He was trading the four cars for the Aristo thats was tom's (From cartune Cali) after I painted one car and did all the body work on another we took the car to california to begin the trade. I was painting these cars for Sammy for parts that were equal in value for the labor costs in doing the paint jobs. So while I thought I was getting a motor (sr) and an s13 silvia front end Sammy was trying to give me a silvia front end that was so badly damaged that it couldnt be sold and or even repaird. So I said **** you and walked away with doing over 2500 dollars woth of work and not gaining so much as a part for my car. I was also supposed to be a mechanic/ auto body painter for the cartune texas. Then I found that Sammy was getting me business by selling my services for unreasonable prices like for instince ( a 180sx getting a s15 front end , it was hit in the rear, instalation of a type x spoiler side skirts rear bumper and all the dints around the whole car). I was supposed to do all that and paint it for 1,000.00. the materials alone costed 500.00 so i got the rear end straightened and fixed all the dents installed the spoiler and had it all under primer ready to paint then when i was asking for some money a check or something it wasnt there so I said **** this and left. No get this I made the biggest mistake coming back 2 months later to buy my sr. (i wanted the Jim wolf setup with distributor and computer upgreade) i was gonna get it for 2100.00 sounds like a good price so I pay for it pick my motor up 2 weeks later cause he had to put it togather. I didnt get the disrtibutor. so this was in febuary. So 2 1/2 months go buy and I get no distributor so I had to go and buy a brand new one from nissan japan it costed 700.00 so now thats 2800 dollars for a motor, I talked to sammy and was like you should be paying for this and he said that he was getting one and I should have waited longer. So I am like fine ok **** it let it go. So now i have everything installed and I am ready to start it. It starts but the wireing harness is no the right one so now I just spent another 600.00 to get a complete setup 3400.00 I have spent on just getting the motor to start and drive. so now I have 2 distributors 2 jim wolf computers and get this the motor didnt come with any motor brackets so I had to spend 60 dollars for those. Now it runs and everything but I found that the 5 and reverse gear dosent work so I went to his shop today to get another transmission and he said come back next week cause he was busy and had to look for it. So i have had the worst time trying to get my sr 2 work and I am still not out clear yet. My beef is not somuch with cartune cali but cartune texas. Personally I thought that edwin was a pretty cool guy and every one exceprt for The california cartune owner Sam. but when I was there I recognized that there were no real mechanics and theguys there had no clue what they were doing. I even got to eat at sam's restraunt and te food tastes like ****. So if you wanna do business with either of them then I suggest you keep a close eye on them.. In california I recomend Control Z in hunington buy motors for Marco Vargus he is a very reliable and trustable man. Here in texas there is only one place that is got a good reputation that is Entuning and I also do motorswaps out of my home for less and I do quality work for you ppl in texas looking for a place to get yours done at.. Well any questions please email Peace

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