building a 700hp+ RB25DET

[martins_240sx]

actually a ls1 ways 525lbs fully dressed meaning everthing ac, powersteering, starter and the t56 is about 180 making approx 705lbs according to gm with transmission. a rb25det weighs 720lbs slightly dressed engine and tran only according to ups. the ls1 has two more cylinders and still comes in under weight.

and there is no way you removed half the weight of the front end. you may have fake fenders hood and bumper but, you still have lower control arms, coils, brakes, rotors, subframe, radiator support, the rack...pretty much the whole front of your car. there is no way the things you changed took off half weight....try looking on ebay for some fiberglass lower control arms and subframe or maybe even paper mache'

oh and stock shocks weigh 62lbs. a set most new ones weigh around 50lbs a set.

youtube verdicthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohjwV2nmY6Mhttp ... uozFYwhats the tally?

Modified by martins_240sx at 4:40 PM 10/4/2008

Modified by martins_240sx at 4:40 PM 10/4/2008
Modified by martins_240sx at 4:43 PM 10/4/2008

[Ls1pwr]

theres no way u can even compare an ls1 to a rb25, the ls1 is way out of the rb25's league. your little rb25 has no where near the potential of an ls1. i bet with you driving your car will be slower then a cam only ls1 in the 1/4 mile.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/...+only

hope its faster then 10.2 at 132. = stock bottom end, stock heads, naturally aspirated.

i'd post up the forced induction list but there is no point.
Modified by Ls1pwr at 6:22 PM 10/4/2008

[gismonismo]

actually a ls1 ways 525lbs fully dressed meaning everthing ac, powersteering, starter and the t56 is about 180 making approx 705lbs according to gm with transmission. a rb25det weighs 720lbs slightly dressed engine and tran only according to ups. the ls1 has two more cylinders and still comes in under weight.

and there is no way you removed half the weight of the front end. you may have fake fenders hood and bumper but, you still have lower control arms, coils, brakes, rotors, subframe, radiator support, the rack...pretty much the whole front of your car. there is no way the things you changed took off half weight....try looking on ebay for some fiberglass lower control arms and subframe or maybe even paper mache'

oh and stock shocks weigh 62lbs. a set most new ones weigh around 50lbs a set.

youtube verdicthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohjwV2nmY6Mhttp ... uozFYwhats the tally?

Modified by martins_240sx at 4:40 PM 10/4/2008

Modified by martins_240sx at 4:40 PM 10/4/2008

Modified by martins_240sx at 4:43 PM 10/4/2008

blah to the blah man lol

lol. exactly 667 lbs with transmission pig nose dont know the weight of the ls1 and sure dont care(I know it s not what you say)to be exact.Modify engines weight less then stock ones.but I'm not wasting time giving you lections and sht.by the wayWhat is your fcking point?(like if I will give a fck lol)lol lol heres for your post pighttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...latedhttp://w ... r3474later hater

[martins_240sx]

keep living your dream. and those were facts I gave you. my ka24et would probly run you down

[Ls1pwr]

the ls1 weighs anywhere from 450-490 lbs alone. i personally picked up my t56 trans and held it in place while my friend bolted it to the engine, and i weight 155 lbs at 5'8. theres no way in hell that transmission and bellhousing weigh over 150lbs. so were talking 600lbs combined. me and 2 friends (all around my size/weight) lifted the ls1+t56 on a crate out of a truck bed and into my garage, the ka24de and auto transmission that was with it felt at least the same weight or +- 20 lbs then the ls1.

Ls1 Weights from:http://www.rx7club.com/archive....html

ive seen an rb25 with transmission before and it is dimensionally way larger then an ls1+t56 and its all cast iron.... there is no way that engine and transmission are anywhere near the weight of an ls1 and transmission. its documented that the rb25 swap adds 180lbs to the car when u swap it for the ka24de FACT!

[gismonismo]

no offence pig nose put I did get your point and thats why you get 3 videos for being rude lol.to you.wtf?you probably have a bigger dif and all thats sht.But this is not Pinks man.that means that you have 5k or so in it,far less then it cost me to build this RB.I know if I was to put my money in a lets sey fox body I will probably be making twice the power and putting it to the ground.Yes man I get your point.Thats the only reason they race on pinks,Cheap and fast.Don't compare man.your only fast in straight ways.I for sure ain't scare of any fox body or ls1.we got nos for that.

[verSat1l3]

Race wars are comming up.

...besides that:


Modified by verSat1l3 at 4:38 PM 10/5/2008

[martins_240sx]

only straight line huh? okay. only 5000, i wish. i really hope you get your goal.....true pig build....look it up

[sjbsuperman1425]

dude this project is insane, and i hope you achieve your goal!

as for everyone else, especially ls1pwr, he didn't start this thread for you to bash him. I personally think an american motor in a japanese manufactured car is pure idiotic (if thats what you did?) why not get a light american car and put the LS1 in it? and im not really familiar with the LS1 price but what is it anyway? and yes, i DO believe this guy can make that kind of power! I mean there was a 1000hp SR20DET built, and the biggest stroker kit i've seen for them are 2.3L(can't remember the shop ) and its only a 4 Cylinder. There is NO reason why an RB25DET cannot build that much power without a stroker kit, just need alot of fuel, alot of air, and a VERY VERY GOOD tune!

Rhombus-Tuning made a 650whp SR20DET with 36psi and a boost leak, with stock diameter pistons (86mm) and 1600cc injectors. and LS1's are only good for 1/4 mi, you'd get eaten by a supra with a turbo mod and a tune on a highway haha

[480sx]

Woooo! Just keeps getting better and better.

I personally think an american motor in a japanese manufactured car is pure idiotic (if thats what you did?) why not get a light american car and put the LS1 in it?

and im not really familiar with the LS1

and LS1's are only good for 1/4 mi

There is no american car that is any where near the car a 240sx is. Price, 50/50 weight distribution, RWD, low weight, good handling sports cars with a wide open engine bay that almost demands a swap makes it a rare breed. Oh and it looks good. A car is just a car dude, who cares where it comes from. Your stuck in JDM fan boy mode it would seem.

The LS1 is one of the best motors built. EVER. You toss one in a 240 sx and you can get 30 MPG's highway and have stupid amounts of reliable power.

Wouldnt you think its more idiotic to dislike something because of its country of origin instead of its overall ability and characteristics?

[martins_240sx]

that my friend is the dumbest thing you could say. where is your info

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and LS1's are only good for 1/4 mi, you'd get eaten by a supra with a turbo mod and a tune on a highway haha

here is some vids for some proof. the first one is your infamous highway scene. granted both are modded but look at the boost to boost comparisonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qyNYx1B4cg

here is stock for stockhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Obz0dpMeY

title says it allhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6zj50i_iNU

numbers dont lie. look at the both of the engines fastest 1/4 times and tell me whos on top. and as for only being able to go straight line. that all depends on the characteristics of the suspension tuning. that was one of the most ignorant things ive ever heard.

[Ls1pwr]

nismo"your only fast in straight ways.I for sure ain't scare of any fox body or ls1.we got nos for that".

sj superman"and LS1's are only good for 1/4 mi, you'd get eaten by a supra with a turbo mod and a tune on a highway haha"

lol please newbies, the corvette (with ls1) has dominated 5 of the past 8 years in the speed GT world challenge. And has DOMINATED the American Le Mans Series for years. thats turns genius not a straight line or 1/4 mi, you ppl are really retarded thinking an engine is only good in a straight line.........
Modified by Ls1pwr at 6:16 PM 10/5/2008

[gismonismo]

yeah we get that to but who gives a fck?le mans was dominated by the gt40 witch is the best american car and now the ls1.as itally the ferrari as japan the gtr ect.we know.this is a fcking joke your totally taking this threat and head it for ls1 sht.lol.lol

Had to change my injectors for 1000cc sht.....not cool alone with my TB and intake in favor for a custom one.Ill have the pics when it is finish.later

[480sx]

Your right, Le Mans was dominated by the GT40. In 1966, it won 4 strait. It was later discontinued, and has been brought back but has yet to prove anything. Other than maybe ford is a ....

Now the Corvettes have won back to back to back at Le Mans and other events around the world. They have er.. 'Dominated' a hell of a lot more than any car with a blue oval on it ever will, at quite a few more venues. YouTube the last 8 Le Mans. See that pair of yellow cars up front? Those are Corvettes.

Idk i guess the word 'best' is subjective.. Shouldnt take offense to that kind of blasphemy.

GL with your build bud.

[martins_240sx]

well to be honest i think your build is looking great and whatever power it ends having it will still be a bad a$$ car and im sure fun to drive

[gismonismo]

I have to say you two are a hand full lol.This proyect has drain my mind and wallet man.I just want to get it over with to be honest

[gismonismo]

hey Carl H can you pm me the way to run the RB26 PFC on my RB25.If you know.or anyone with this set up.

[verSat1l3]

Um, are we still arguing power, weight, and handling on a car that isn't even running yet?

This thread is crap.

I'll say it again:

[RCA]

There is no american car that is any where near the car a 240sx is. Price, 50/50 weight distribution, RWD, low weight, good handling sports cars with a wide open engine bay that almost demands a swap makes it a rare breed.

That could be the saddest statement I have ever read.

Name a stock 240sx that has 50/50 WD?Also the wide-open engine bay doesn't demand a engine swap...The driver does.

[gismonismo]

Um, are we still arguing power, weight, and handling on a car that isn't even running yet?

This thread is crap.

I'll say it again:

well if you have a way to make shipment faster please say so dude.....or have your self some hatorade.

[verSat1l3]

you keep pouring, I'll keep sippin'

[gismonismo]

yeah good boy.good boy.I can give a fck if they ban me.I'll loose just a laughter.thats it.By the way do you know how to use a rb26det pfc on a rb25det

[verSat1l3]

If they did ban you (they wont) we'd all lose a good laugh.

Looking at your old posts, 3 months ago you didn't know how to install a manual boost controller, now you're building a 700+ ft-lbs of torque rb25? You don't know anything about differentials, wiring, or troubleshooting. Every time you brag about how great your project is or is going to be, you then ask everyone how to hook up a part or what parts you should use to complete it.

Its like saying, "I'm going to win the Indy 500 as soon as you show me how to drive."

I wouldn't even have said anything, but the stuff you post (that can even be read) defies all logic, and you refuse to listen to what people far more knowledgeable than you have to say. At first I thought you were just trolling but 4 months membership is longer than most trolls would invest.

My guess is there will soon be a white s14 shell for sale in FL.

And to those that hate on LS1 just cause he went a different route. Judging from his posts I think the man knows far more than most here, myself included.

Boo this man. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gismonismo]

If they did ban you (they wont) we'd all lose a good laugh.

Looking at your old posts, 3 months ago you didn't know how to install a manual boost controller, now you're building a 700+ ft-lbs of torque rb25? You don't know anything about differentials, wiring, or troubleshooting. Every time you brag about how great your project is or is going to be, you then ask everyone how to hook up a part or what parts you should use to complete it.

Its like saying, "I'm going to win the Indy 500 as soon as you show me how to drive."

I wouldn't even have said anything, but the stuff you post (that can even be read) defies all logic, and you refuse to listen to what people far more knowledgeable than you have to say. At first I thought you were just trolling but 4 months membership is longer than most trolls would invest.

My guess is there will soon be a white s14 shell for sale in FL.

And to those that hate on LS1 just cause he went a different route. Judging from his posts I think the man knows far more than most here, myself included.

Boo this man. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

its true and I'm a @s hle ah?every time I have ask a question here I have got nothing thanks to people like you.I dont know what drives you but theres no way no one can hate a ls1.its was just a fcking joke and he knew it.In fact I think will be hanging out with his ls1 where you going to be?Thats what you should be thinking about.your just a sad person.cheer up mate and start building.I'm not starting a fight about who knows and who doesn't.You already have that part cover.when this proyect is done its up for the next one.What will you be doing?Is the other question you should ask.Go out and play man dont waist your life everything is posible.

this is the perfect example of the question thing?its just that.I wish this will change in the future........will later man and sorry I called you a hater man good luck

[PorkChopExpress]

can i rent your hood form? i make carbon fiber parts as well. its cheaper to buy a hood then making just one. but if i had access to a form i could make one for myself.

[Nurokil]

Gismo where are you from? I'm a fan of what you trying to do, but i have so much trouble reading your post. The broken english, you write proyect for project and waist for waste amd there is very rare you space after you finish a sentence. Not dogging you just wondering.

[gismonismo]

Im in my place att orlando finishing this project(thanks)until the next month.then I'm in P.R.to help some guy there building a FD proyect.itll take me a week there to set up is aero parts and then back here to start a new proyect.if its where I was born I already said it German.sorry for the language And sure i'll let you borrow my hood,but only for molding purpose. pm me.Happy to help a CF builder I had lots of help when I was starting the CF business time to give back I guess.lol.sorry I didnt made a mold.I made it out of the original part.vacumm baging it to create the smooth surface.later
Modified by gismonismo at 7:56 PM 10/7/2008

[PorkChopExpress]

would like to get my hands on a mold so i can make myself a hood. still my just buy one. these china boys can make them cheap. not worth my time and materials.

[gismonismo]

just get a galon of resin,some hardner wax aditive,and some fiber glass mat and let me know when you have that.I'll go there and help you out if you want to.theres no way it can be more then what we pay.My hood cost like 289.00 or some thing to build.let me know I still have my CF coneccion that can give me good deals on yards or rolls

[480sx]

That could be the saddest statement I have ever read.

Name a stock 240sx that has 50/50 WD? Also the wide-open engine bay doesn't demand a engine swap... The driver does.

What makes my statement sad? Motor swapped 240s are as common as swapped civics now, if not more so.

The car is so damned close to 50/50, your splitting hairs.

Your really going to make that last statement? Really? I mean i actually thought the engine bay was talking to me the other day asking for a LS1. Figure of speech dude, give me a freaken break.

Your just trying to stir the pot and be some kind of hero here, idk you make no sense. I support this guy and am just giving him a little bit of crap. Your acting like its you vs the world or something. Give it a rest bud.