building a 700hp+ RB25DET

[RCA]

lol i never said it was impossible to get that much torque from a 4-6 cylinder. don't put words in my mouth. that was a 1800+ hp 2jz with a 1,500 rpm power band....... drag race engine designed to be run a couple times then rebuilt. what i said is that your not going to make that much torque out of a rb25. And i still haven't been proven wrong.

AMS has a 2.0L 4cly 4G63 that makes 750lb-ft of torque.

And I am not putting words in your mouth...YOUR QUOTED POST again...

american ur *** eh? show me 1 rb25 or 26, a 2jz, or any 6 cylinder import engine that makes 750rwtq. there is no replacement for displacement. Fact is you wont make 750rwtq or anywhere near that with ur rb25

I showed you one that makes more then 750WTQ and AMS has another one...

[low91240sx]

Lol rcabrita I love it man and keep up with the build gismo

[gismonismo]

shty clutch and nismo lsdhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

heres an idea of what im buildinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

[Ls1pwr]

thats a rb26 thats stroked out and has 1100 hp. i dont see an rb25 doing that...

thats not an idea of what ur building because ITS NOT A RB25.

good job rcabritalol its impressive but it also has 1100+ hp and its a full time drag car. the dyno graph also looks like mt everest.

[gismonismo]

well he is right for the full drag car.but I think you got the idea.I'm doing it so that anyone in this forum that has a RB25DET can do it.and would be as reliable as your moms toyota.your trying to make people belive in alice in wonder land bro and thats not cool,but I do know your my num 1 fan.why I don't buy your sht?first its your word against mine(I have build 1000hp cars already)you?second SignalAuto,XSeng.ect. agree with me on power levels on this proyect.who you got?third(you will like this one)only seeing its beliving right?

if you havent seen it wtf your doing here ?learn mf learn from one of the best.lol.like I sayed before "theres some of us out there that already has what they wanted and dont care about making money out of every thing they do" It's call LOVE! have the gutz to go out and face the facts of life.lol by the way I will race anything you can bring anytime.


Modified by gismonismo at 3:37 PM 10/1/2008

[gismonismo]

your smart you can do it right by your self?ah?by the way Whats up with you and your GT turbos?you do know they are not the best right?(street wise)When this build is over I know your going to bend your fcking head.GT lol 1600cc lol yeah right lol.thats for rich or dont know how to build guys like you.just dump gas like crazzy on that btch. wizzard.lol.
Modified by gismonismo at 4:09 PM 10/1/2008

[RCA]

good job rcabritalol its impressive but it also has 1100+ hp and its a full time drag car. the dyno graph also looks like mt everest.

I understand what it is and I tottaly agree with you

I just don't think you were asking the right question.

Maybe you MENT to ask:Show me a 4cyl/6cyl that, doesn't have a "Mt Everest" like dyno sheet, makes over 750wtq and that is not attatched to a full drag car.

and not:

american ur *** eh? show me 1 rb25 or 26, a 2jz or any 6 cylinder import engine that makes 750rwtq

Also to Gismo, dude you really need to learn how to type. Reading your jibberish hurts my head and eyes.Start typeing ALL your responces on Microsoft Word and I can bet your WHOLE post with have red or green squiggly lines under it.

And GT turbos are pretty much the best technology out there. Next to variable turbo technology (Porsche created) the GT twin ball bearing technology is as good as it gets.Unless of course you engineered some new turbo the world hasn't heard about

Any updates for project "750WTQ"?

[Ls1pwr]

lol ALL you have is your so called word. None of these sponsors are on here backing u up...... what u claim is bull$hit until u prove us wrong. Your illiterate and i dont know what i can "learn mf learn", but u can Learn mf learn how to fuking type!!!!!!!!

yes rcabrita i meant to say that, this will not be a street car with that type of power or the pipe dream of "ur moms toyota" type of reliability running that much power. ur correct almost all 4/6 cyl cars will have a mt everest power band. That is why i originally suggested he use an ls1 to get 750rwtq or more and be reliable at the same time as weigh 150lbs less.

[RCA]

lol ALL you have is your so called word. None of these sponsors are on here backing u up...... what u claim is bull$hit until u prove us wrong. Your illiterate and i dont know what i can "learn mf learn", but u can Learn mf learn how to fuking type!!!!!!!!

WHOA there!

You need to take a back seat approch to this my friend.Instead of trying to steer the bus, just take a seat and enjoy the ride. It is less stressfull that way

Instead of getting on him and you two going back and forth, just let this play out...I also have my douts about this whole project.But you never know, he might just be an amazing engine builder with an extreme budget.Just because he can't type, doesn't necessarily mean the boy can't build.

That is why i originally suggested he use an ls1 to get 750rwtq or more and be reliable at the same time as weigh 150lbs less.

Yea LS1 is probably his best bet at 750wtq. But let see what home boy can do.

The pressure is on you Gismo! Prove us wrong my friend
Modified by rcabrita at 1:07 AM 10/2/2008

[480sx]

WHOA there!You need to take a back seat approch to this my friend.Instead of trying to steer the bus, just take a seat and enjoy the ride. It is less stressfull that way

Couldnt have said it better myself. I cant help but to look at this thread, i know i shouldnt but...

[gismonismo]

hey man dont get me wrong I love this mate.he is right about the ls1.but some how pis me off. I dont know why?lol. and about the turbos you most try them all to make a judgement.At least thats what I think and not go on a promo twards GT just cause they say its good .VG turbos are far more better then GTs.I'm talking for street use.T turbos are also better.GT if its not a ball bearing its a peace of sht.The only problem with the VG is the oil issue.T04z its way better then a gt35.put how can you say its a gt if it been mod.Like say smaller exhaust housing or a bigger induction.I guess it all depends on the type and the mod. you looking for.but I got a GT37r in my mitsu and its a kick *** but not as far as a T04z.whats what I think ....you know?

lets get to the build found a old freind that has been in the racing for a few good years and happens to have a mach.shop.I send out my block to be Bor/hon. and flat the deck with minimal scratch marks for the metal head gasket to seal much better.he does it all.its sow cool.lol.

learn how to spell lol thats the only thing you got.lol.I'll teach you how to build and you teach me how to spell?reliable rb25det builded its 800hp if you can afford gas(my only question is will it still keep the ac?)later hater

[gismonismo]

heres my new studentniss lol my sisters daughter wants to build imports with me lol I can use some help

[1995240sxSE]

Its october, wheres the progress?

[martins_240sx]

nice skyline

my only question is if you do get this 800 or what ever it is now ftlbs of torque, how are you going to put it to the ground? from your video those wheels dont look wide enough at all.

[Ls1pwr]

ya she looks like shes doing a really good job on your s14 skyline. Did u win the lottery or something? Cause u dont type or sound smart enough to earn it any other way.

[gismonismo]

this is not her first proyect if thats what you mean.......its 800hp if it doesnt make the 650 of torque then whatever put I know itll be close.who knows....I'll post some pics as soon as I get the block worked.The crank collar is supose to arrive the 7th then I'll have it work.alone with the head since by that time my shims and lifters will arrive as well.I havent post pics on my suspesion set up.why I dont think you guys care about that and I'm not giving up set ups for those who doesnt own a rb25det the ones that have can pm me.for the rest its just a waste of time.I think some of you just want to see numbers and dyno queens.(no point in giving you a setup that still not proven untill you see it with your own eyes right?later.lol

[martins_240sx]

my bad I had no idea it was a touchy subject, and I could care less about your suspension setup, i doubt im gonna see you with the fastest time attack car ever made...but who knows. "I" was refering to your skinny *** wheels, no matter what kinda setup on the suspension you have, your not gonna hook up with those. my coupe has 17x9 inch rears and she spins them all day(stock). So my more clarified statement is....with all that "torque" you need wider wheels might even need slicks.

[RCA]

Come on Gismon! I got every body nice and calm and you come in and start swinging for the fenches...

Um spelling, grammar, puctuation and sentance structure. I am usually not a Grammar Nazi, BUT it is hard to read what your writing. Seriously try typing on Microsoft Word then posting...

Interms of turbos IDK where you get your information but GT Dual Ball bearing (DBB) turbos is so far the best technology available next to variable vane technology. Other turbos also have DBBs so unless they have the same exact specs and yet flow more efficiently then I still thay with Garrett GT series.

To every one else:Gis has been attacked so no matter what we write, he is going to be on the defensive. Take that into consideration the next time you post something and Gis wrongfully attacks back.If you type some thing constructive and Gis responds like a jerk, just remember that other NICO members are reading and they will realize that Gis is being a duche.

**NOT SAYING HE IS BEING A DUCHE...JUST SAYING THAT IF HE DOES BECOME ONE, PEOPLE WILL NOTICE**

And if you writing things like:

ya she looks like shes doing a really good job on your s14 skyline. Did u win the lottery or something? Cause u dont type or sound smart enough to earn it any other way.

Then you are doing nothing but putting fuel on FIRE. Whether or no Gis is legit or not doesn't matter RIGHT NOW. Just wait to see when he slows progress or fails at his attempts...

Like I said earlier, just sit back and enjoy the ride

PS: Gismon you are going to need some serious rubber for the power numbers you will be dealing with. I don't care if your Mario Andretti, if your making 700hp+ you are going to need DRAG slicks inorder to utilize that power.

If you use insuficent wheel sizes or rubber compounds you might as well not build or run the engine to those power numbers.Because then those 700hp+ numbers would only be good on a dyno, which ultimatley makes you a "dyno queen".JUST MY OPINON

Rock on GISMON! Keep the updates comming...

[gismonismo]

you think I'm pis?nah its all good.just fcking around until I get my partslol dont hate the player hate the game.I'm German by the wayif where I was born matters.duncoff.lol.but my mate ls1 actually has become a good friend.Not that I think putting a ls1 in a 240 is alright.But its all good as far as what you like.GTs are old school thats what I think.SPL are the sht for GTS and GTRs.For twin turbo set ups to4s are the right way and the only way as far as I know.By the way that skinny tire is in a 17x9+ f back is 17x10+ so I think its your eyes or the camara.OZ rims got them on by a mate in the uk.I'm not saying I know more then all of you but.....I understand you guys not finding logic to build huge powerfull street cars Its the only dif.I see here.Has nothing to do with whos smart and whos not.Also the other difference I see its you guys use stand alone systems for a piggy back set up.Not a problem with me.why do you judge my tire selection?I may sound like I'm caring but I'm not.I'm here to help actually

Please the 800hp set up is just for dyno matters after I honor my name its back to street set up and sale.But That area has been cover if thats what you mean (tires) thanks for the advise
Modified by gismonismo at 7:04 AM 10/3/2008

[gismonismo]

ya she looks like shes doing a really good job on your s14 skyline. Did u win the lottery or something? Cause u dont type or sound smart enough to earn it any other way.

here what I think is a Ls1 240

[martins_240sx]

ls1=chevy, that is a ford front.

I really dont think that those 10inch wide wheels will hold that kinda power. not even with the widest tires on it. theres is a vid on you tube with a guy in a old kit car. he smokes some wide tires off and down the street. they were like 20 inches wide he only had about 500 hp

[martins_240sx]

here it ishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA6ND-rZpt8

[Ls1pwr]

i'll take a page out of rcabrita's book, 800hp will not clear your name seeing as you came in here claiming that your going to make 650+rwtq. im going to sit back and watch you prove us right. i dont know how u found that conversion, but it is the ugliest thing i have ever seen. And ya there is no Ls1 in there lol.

[PorkChopExpress]

hahaah how did i miss this post. i vote him for the db of the year award.

[gismonismo]

lol

hahaah how did i miss this post. i vote him for the db of the year award.

lol.my bad I thought I found your dream car man my bad ls1(by the way that one has a hemi)you still dont like it ls1?

[Ls1pwr]

not at all... that things a piece o you know what. im a fan of the ls1 because of its small size, only adds 30 lbs (documented), and keeps the same 50/50 weight balance as the car stock. i am against any engine swap that adds lots of uneccesary weight to the front of the car. any RB engine swap will add 100+ lbs to the front, that hemi if its a newer one will add 150+, the 4.6 rustang engine adds 180lbs (overhead cam and iron block). so how is the 650+rwtq coming along sunshine?

[Nurokil]

Martin, understood the wheels are 20" wide and car is 500hp. But he very much on purpose was braking through the burn out, AND he did not carry the wheels spinning down the street that was just the remaining smoke rolling out after he started moving and the wind picked it up. Although i absolutely agree keeping anything more then like 400lb tq is hard to keep on the road.

ADD: Just saying for clarification purpose.

[gismonismo]

tha

not at all... that things a piece o you know what. im a fan of the ls1 because of its small size, only adds 30 lbs (documented), and keeps the same 50/50 weight balance as the car stock. i am against any engine swap that adds lots of uneccesary weight to the front of the car. any RB engine swap will add 100+ lbs to the front, that hemi if its a newer one will add 150+, the 4.6 rustang engine adds 180lbs (overhead cam and iron block). so how is the 650+rwtq coming along sunshine?

lol.I thought you would like it. Never mind...lol. But about the weight distribution. My front probably weighs as much as yours. The front weight lost 120 punds with the conversion plus some suspension components were replaced by alum. and light alloys giving it close to a perfect harmony. But will see that when the suspension tune up begins (which is after the car is up and running). I am talking to a guy in Australia that is making crank collars. Now he told me it is more tighter than juns crank collar but not too much that will harm the pump. Also he came out with the fitting to drain the oil from the head when converting to solid. He told me his collars cost $90.00 aud which is less in usd. Now how true this is I do not know. H sent me pics put for some reason I couldnt get them to open. I'm going to try them and buy the oil drain kit and the collar and have it installed. will still have my jun collar if it arrives when Carisma told me it will. If it works I'll sell my jun collar. I think is due to my tire selection.this are my old 17x9, but with my new rims you can see the rim on both sides.
Modified by gismonismo at 12:56 PM 10/4/2008

[Ls1pwr]

lol you didnt lose any weight from swapping in an rb26, unless u replaced it with a huge chunk of lead..... your blatantly lying when u claim such stupid things as facts.

http://www.drifting.com/forums....html

fact rb25 weights 180 more lbs then a ka24de, i dont care what u did to the suspension u cant get rid of 180 lbs over ur front tires.

And which suspension parts did u replace with these magic "light alloys"?

[gismonismo]

What?....lol.that weight was with the rb on you dm as,So if you want to compare from privious kamotor and all stock metal parts such as hood,fenders, ect.Now add to that the weight of the rb and take half of the weight or more on the stock metal parts you probably end up in almost the same as the Ka motor.Mine came with metal calipers and was replace with alum. S-15 brakes.plus ac unit its a extra weight lost thats why we dont use AC.Do the num. Engine also lost weight changing some parts So dont give me that.lol.I'm not goimg to bother even looking for you ls1 motor vs mine if thats what you want.lol.stock shocks weight more then the ones it haves on how much you check it out.lol.why dont you test your ls1 vs my rb and see what the fck you talking about.ah?