BMW 318IS VH41DETT build up

[doctorchee]

oops can't upload picture still...

anyway, I was saying do a extra plate at both side of the mount.

anyone can tell me why I can't upload????

Thanks

[David Steele]

Looks like your're going to require a different steering rack.

Also, how is that going to be removed from the car?

I'm designing a way for the subframe to be detachable so the car has to be lifted and the frame stays on the ground.
Modified by David Steele at 10:17 AM 12/13/2006

[Mettler]

I agree about the gussets, the amount of torque a VH produces (especially since you want yours twinturbo), combined with the weight, is going to put immense strain on those mounts.

I've attached a pic of how I think you could reinforce those mounts (but probably extend the height of the gussets until they reach the top of the platform that the rubber mount rests on.)

[doctorchee]

Thanks so much.

This is what I have in mind after some good comments.

Will do it and keep it updated.

Sterring rack, we have found a good solution without changing it. Will send photos of it when done.

As for removing the engine or maintainance, we have will be doing a removeable firewall cover. however, its still lots of problem if the engine have to come out.

if u have a design on how to remove the engine on the floor by lifting the car, I would be very please if u can send to me. I thinking its probably a removeable cross memeber?

Thanks....

comments please........ each idea can contirbute to better sucess...

[Mettler]

Take a look at the pics of the underbody of my skyline. It has a removable crossmember from factory.

Drill holes down through your chassis rails, weld crush tubes into them. These will serve as the bolt locations for bolting a crossmember up to your chassis rails.

[doctorchee]

where can I see the underbody picture?

[doctorchee]

some update, after changing a good new workshop

engine mount and gearbox mount improved. steering system done.

putting in: new clutch, brake pedalV160 gearbox.

plans is to put in a adapter plate to match the V160 6speed manual box. should be able to make it. clutch 2jzgte. as per gearbox. some maybe custom flywheel. will see how and post a write up on it. gear box will reach me by next friday latest.

anyone who is intrested to make another sets of adapter plate and fylwheel to match V160 to VH, please let me know soon. i can make 2 sets for it. should cost less than 1000usd. however, i will update cost when the workshop have complete the plans for how to match the gearbox to the engine.

thanks all.

[doctorchee]

More things done. expected to complete and get the car running in 2months time.

currently, doing manual conversion.

[doctorchee]

just some short update.

manual conversion done.

project is not dead. still in progress.

left radiator, brakes, clutch and wiring and the car is ready to go.

will be in NA first. turbo to be followed shortly. all turbo ex stock already.

[Mettler]

Good work mate, keep us updated with pics plz

[doctorchee]

just some update again...project is still alive

going to test drive the car in NA this week......hopefully my boss which is paying me a visit this week don't take up too much of my time....keke

engine in place and fired up... idle well steering doneradiator custom in progress.exhaust not done. test drive with header manifold only... cabin cover for engine not done.... i be test driving with the engine beside me... hot.hot hotmanual gearbox in place and running.

next step:to install and complete the radiator

twin turbo T04E with custom header.... both turbo going to be mounted on the left bank of the cyclinder. this is due to the steering and brakes take up all the space at the right bank cyclinder. as such, route the pipe from the right to the left. will group the pulsing also. there is a article in 1uzfe forum saying grouping the pulse can actually reduce the lag and increase the spool time. L 1,L4,R2, R3 into turbo 1R1,R4,L2,L3 into turbo 2. cyclinder numbering L1,L2,L3,L4 into order, front to back. same as right.sorry i can't really remember the firing order at the moment. hope you guys can understand. please comment on this set up also. thanks.

water/air intercooler set up in the moment

looking out for ECU.. hope to get DTA S80 or DTAP8 any commnets? as they are not popular at all. but i like their numberous funcions such as traction control...

cover the engine finally...

tune ecu, once complete, change injectors to 850cc

boost 0.5bar with stock engine

run for a while until money is recovered...

change internal to 8.5CR

boost 1.6bar

thats all... any comments or suggestion please help me..

picture and video will probally come after the test drive.

CheersDerrick

[doctorchee]

http://s177.photobucket.com/al...1.flv

http://s177.photobucket.com/al...2.flv

some video during engine second-birth..... keke

most items is purchased. the rest is still waiting to save up $$..

CheersDerrick car: BMW 318IS - doneengine: VH41DE - mid mounted - doneTransmission: RB25DET manual - doneTurbo: twin T04E 57trim - soonExternal waste gate x 2 - soonBOV x 2 - soonwater/air intercooler - sooninjectors: 850cc side mount stock rail - soonfuel: bosch 910 x 2 donefuel regulator: aftermarket: fuel rail modified a bit, each rail 1 in 1 out. -donecustom: 2 rail big radiator - soonbody: full roll cage -soonBoost: 5-7psi with stock internals. stage 2 1.6bar with 8.5cr.. soonECU: DTA P8 or S80.. wait for $$$$

[doctorchee]

more

http://s177.photobucket.com/al...1.flv

http://s177.photobucket.com/al...2.flv

some video during engine second-birth..... keke

most items is purchased. the rest is still waiting to save up $$..

CheersDerrick car: BMW 318IS - doneengine: VH41DE - mid mounted - doneTransmission: RB25DET manual - doneTurbo: twin T04E 57trim - soonExternal waste gate x 2 - soonBOV x 2 - soonwater/air intercooler - sooninjectors: 850cc side mount stock rail - soonfuel: bosch 910 x 2 donefuel regulator: aftermarket: fuel rail modified a bit, each rail 1 in 1 out. -donecustom: 2 rail big radiator - soonbody: full roll cage -soonBoost: 5-7psi with stock internals. stage 2 1.6bar with 8.5cr.. soonECU: DTA P8 or S80.. wait for $$$$

video this week end or early next week after test drive... hopefully GF to go with me to help to shoot the video....

[T45]

Awesome! Sounds evil.... I want open headers!

[Mettler]

Badass doctorchee, great to see some videos Keep em coming!

Just curious, why are you going with 57 trim turbos? Wouldn't those be a little small considering the volume of exhaust gas the engine is going to produce with even mild boost?

[elwesso]

Very nice! Congrats on having a running motor in the car, from now its downhill!

[doctorchee]

Badass doctorchee, great to see some videos Keep em coming!

Just curious, why are you going with 57 trim turbos? Wouldn't those be a little small considering the volume of exhaust gas the engine is going to produce with even mild boost?

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hmmmm not sure. its T04E x 2pc.. too small? i thought just nice.. a little lag with enough hp at the mid to top end..

Turbo cold a/r 0.5hot a/r 0.84looks quite big and 1pc should be able to support close to 500hp. so 2 pc 1000hp?

turbo is cheap turbo.. not real Garrett

please discuss further? give me your comments bro..

please find attached some photo of my turbo... and other accessories...

http://i177.photobucket.com/al...7.jpgh ... al...0.jpg
Modified by doctorchee at 8:36 PM 7/31/2007

[Mettler]

Oh sorry mate I believe I got confused, sounds like you've picked out some good sized ones.

BTW I can't open your links, it asks for username and password. You need to link the ones starting with i177, not s177.

[doctorchee]

hi all

please find below a link to my twin turbo set up.

http://i177.photobucket.com/al...7.jpg

anyone, please comment.

the main idea is on the right bank, there is no place to mount the turbo due to steering, brakes etc... so both turbo is mounted on the left.

In addition, will take the chance to group the exhaust accrodingly to the twin scroll turbo. hope the grouping of pulse will produce better spool time and higher efficicency for the engine. "as each pulse try to draw and assist next pulse"

sorry for the lousy drawing.. i not good at autocad and recently work is too loaded.

CheersDerrick

[doctorchee]

Oh sorry mate I believe I got confused, sounds like you've picked out some good sized ones.

BTW I can't open your links, it asks for username and password. You need to link the ones starting with i177, not s177.

link edited... nice reply... glad i did not get the wrong size...

btw think we share the same engine.... any idea of how the car will run for ET time? just some estimation will do.

body 1150Kg. 18inch rim stock na with manual 5spd, final 3.7ratio - ET?body 1200kg, 18inch rim boost 0.5bar manual 5spd, final 3.7ratio - ET?body 1200kg, 18inch rim boost 1.6bar, manual 5spd, final 3.7ratio - ET?

thanks a lot
Modified by doctorchee at 8:56 PM 7/31/2007

[doctorchee]

Hi All

since sometimes that i update this thread. have been doing some update at the 180degree thread instead.

As such please find below some updates:1) engine install and running with stock - complete2) radiator - complete3) exhaust - complete4) turbo, BOV, wastegate install - complete5) manual conversion - complete6) 180degree exhaust - complete (not yet test run, no sound review haha

uncomplete1) water intercooler tank.2) firewall -2weeks time start3) DTA P8rpo stand alone ECU - after firewall (stock in hand)4) test drive5) full roll cage 6) upgarde clutch (no money to buy)7) brakes upgrade 6pf+4pr (stock in hand) 8)rims and tyre upgrade (no money to buy)9) body kit10) paint work

below is some photo update, i have change the throtte body to 100mm and put it in front to create more plenum volume, never see any do that before, however, not sure it will have problem a not and also does it help?

please anyone out there who have knowledge on this please chip in your ideas.

Bracket for the water intercooler.. you can locate it? we did this because there will be less movement if you attached the water intercooler to the engine.

Me, just showing off my proud water intercooler design by me and hand made by the shop - 2in1out

TB extend in front for more plenum volume, please someone there me if this works? or it useless etc.. i have no technical idea for this except i know it looks like increase the volume. advantage? disavenates? more lag? etc.

water intercooler in space. try to make the shortest piping if possible. however, the turbo to the water intercooler inlets is a bit far... mission fail a bit...

V mount radiator. custom made. but the angle will be lesser than that in the actual mounting. a smaller radiator will be in space on top for the water intercoller. huge water tank will be made and place on top of the rear seats inside the cabin. with a lip to put in ice.. for drag time

some other view

some other view

piping and turbo in the back part

future plansEngine currently stock, will be boosting the min 0.8bar for a while. A VH45 crank will be in after my budget permits again, together with cams, valve spring, head works, ports, 9:1 piston, head stud etc.. than 1.6bar (should be bad enough to drive than)

ok so much at the moment. hope its useful information for the others who plans to turbo the car. yet to drive, but i am sure the result would be good. but for sure its not a easy thing to twin turbo the VHs...

winner is the one enjoys the race most, not the one who cross the line

[T45]

I forsee some sick wheelies!

[Mettler]

I guess your girlfriend's gonna have to sit in the back?

[doctorchee]

update...

this project has been years now... 2? almost forget the date started... but still its moving.. one day hopefully soon. (less than 2months) that it will be driveable..

the project have been going circle in a way and ended up in the 4th workshop now.. reason is each shop specialise for something. and things like before doing the firewall, roll cage have to been done first.. etc too many circle to complete.

nonetheless, here is some update..





















180degree exhuast completedwater intercooler set up completedroll cage completedfirewall (should be ready by today, going workshop after this email)ECU - next weektest drive kekeke

thats all..

schedule also late... so keeping my finger cross to meet date line.

[bball212000]

this is going to a bad to the bone bmw

[doctorchee]

I guess your girlfriend's gonna have to sit in the back?

Hi some update on the progress of finding a place for my girlfriend to sit... hahaaha

think this makes everything less ugly especially after spray painting.









today and tomorrow will start working on the driver side firewall.. after that spray painting cabin... than do ECU... than engine fireup and running....than bigger wheels and brakes....than upgrade clutch......than LSD.... than bodykit...than final external spray coat...

[Mettler]

Great progress m8!

[DeXteR]

wow.

can't wait to see more.

[doctorchee]

hi guys

just some update...

car is trying to start up with the turbos.

had spend 3hours with my tuner yesterday to work out and try to start the engine..

injectors clear and spraying welliginition re wire and firing well left with timing which we left out the timing light to do the timing.

should be doing the tunning again this weekend i guess and fire up the engine.

excited again after moral getting low...

will post up some video and picture once it started..

engine: vh41de + T04E x 2ecu: DTA pro8

btw, i have modify the crank sensor disc and have did some spare... its 36-1. let me know if anyone is interested

cheers

[qsiguy]

It's been a long project, I'm excited for you to get it running. Try and get some video of the event, I'd love to see and hear that monster!

Very cool.