BH World 180sx

[BrianHarte]

I am 100% serious about the Keichi comment. He is not too great from what I've seen.

I don't prefer one car ovewr the other yet. I guess if I HAD to pick one, I'd pick the 14 right now just because I am so familiar with it. I'll get into the 13 though. Just give me a couple more events I think.

[AZhitman]

The progression between the two cars is the same as most - The previous generation is lighter, more sketchy at the limits, and less refined... the latter is more user-friendly, heavier, and more predictable.

Very much like the comparison between the 1st-gen and 2nd-gen MR2... (1st-gen was a blast, btw... drove one of the first ones in AZ and was amazed).

[White Comet]

hmm i always thought kt was the best of the best.

[Koshin]

hah im guessing you're not serious about this

im guessing you dont know who youre dealing with hear...lol

s14s seem to handle better...not as much understeer as an s13...but you can make them handle how you want with your equipment...

[BrianHarte]

I figured the 13 would feel very "loose" and whatnot seing that it is a big glass open space...

BUT

I think I did a good enough job at making it STIFF with all those bars.

It doesn't feel flimsy at all.

[White Comet]

im guessing you dont know who youre dealing with hear...lol

of course i do, and theres no denying bh is damn good. but kt is older and has had years of experience, to imply that bh is better then kt is silly if you think about it. even if they're equally skilled individuals, kt just has more seat time. it be like if bh traveled 10 years to the future and competed against future bh, its pretty easy to see future bh would win.

[BrianHarte]

lol what.

I'm sure I'm not better than him.

I'm just stating that he isn't ALL that great.

He managed to total the first HKS D1 car before it even surfaced.

He almost ran over Suenaga and others at teh beginning of one of the D1 rounds while trying to do a little donut type thing.

[AZhitman]

I figured the 13 would feel very "loose" and whatnot seing that it is a big glass open space...

BUT

I think I did a good enough job at making it STIFF with all those bars.

It doesn't feel flimsy at all.

B, there are those who will claim the S13 is flimsy. Of the available chassis configurations, the hatch is the least rigid (yes, even more so than the convertible, I've tested it repeatedly, there's no room for uninformed argument here).

However, based on what you've done, it should be about as solid as it can get, without getting crazy with a welder, boxing segments, and making the car heavier.

Are you using the Do-Luck style ladder braces? Best single investment in mine.

After that, the FSTB that ties into the firewall, the triangulated Nagisa-style home-brew fender braces, and the front control arm bracing...

[BrianHarte]

You know, the Do Luck bars were something that I ALWAYS wanted, but never got.

I like the ladder bars alot and I really like the floor bars they have.

I figure I am prettyu much done buying anything for the car though.

I want to get a new exhaust and that's pretty much about it.

I have a nice radiator at home that I have to put in... just haven't done it yet.

[AZhitman]

They are an awesome piece.

I got a set from a kid who was parting out his car... He had no idea what they were, and the prior owner clued me in that they were present.

$50 later, he's a happy 'tard and I'm rocking teh Do-Luck.

[White Comet]

lol what.

I'm sure I'm not better than him.

I'm just stating that he isn't ALL that great.

He managed to total the first HKS D1 car before it even surfaced.

He almost ran over Suenaga and others at teh beginning of one of the D1 rounds while trying to do a little donut type thing.

yeah i know you didnt say that, but it almost seems like what 91silvia was implying

[BrianHarte]

oh I see.

I hope not.

I'm not even that good at drifting.

[Koshin]

of course i do, and theres no denying bh is damn good. but kt is older and has had years of experience, to imply that bh is better then kt is silly if you think about it. even if they're equally skilled individuals, kt just has more seat time. it be like if bh traveled 10 years to the future and competed against future bh, its pretty easy to see future bh would win.

k-san was the inavtor of the sport, but the sport has progressed so much its like comparing Isaih Thomas to Kobe Bryant...Thomas is one of the all itme greats but def. not the player Bryant is...

I wasnt saying that to say BH was better than kt...I was just saying it because it seems to be a very BH thing to say, lol

yeah i know you didnt say that, but it almost seems like what 91silvia was implying

that was never implied...

[White Comet]

its cool thats just the vibe i got. thats the probably with seeing typed responses instead of talking to someone, you can't hear the tone of their words.

I'm not even that good at drifting.

god, i'm glad SOMEONE finally said it. i kid of course

[Koshin]

its cool thats just the vibe i got. thats the probably with seeing typed responses instead of talking to someone, you can't hear the tone of their words.

you worded that perfectly...its hard to get conotation on the internetz

[sommmatt]

BH can hold a car sideways with a stock KA... that makes him better than a lot of people. Just sayin.

[Koshin]

^^^beat it

[BrianHarte]

Hey man, that's a cool photo.

[AZhitman]

Drag-style burnout in a 240sx = BA.

[j-z]

ummmm..... im gonna have to disagree with you greg. when my buddy george had his vert (bright asss lime green one), i drove it before. he had coils on it, and those baller asss rims. i went over a gutter type thing coming out of his shop, and holy shlt i instantly felt the chassis flex like a mofo. im talking very noticeable flex. ive owned all 240 chassis besides a vert. i did drive the vert, and it was wicked on how much flex that thing had.

my s14 was the easiest to push to the limits as it was very very predictable, and went where you looked. although i had the most money wrapped up in suspension in that car over the others. my s13 coupe was pretty gnarly for just cut springs LOL + 250 whp..... oh, and rt615s.

i would like to eventually own a stable of all s13/s14 chassis made and make them identical.

[AZhitman]

Feel free.

Any idea of the history or condition of Powerline's very before it was restored?

I've held numerous Tech Days at my home. I've showed several people the difference in a hatch and a 'vert by jacking up one corner and attempting to open / close the doors.

Every hatch I've done this with has door misalignment upon closing... The 3 verts I've tested all had no issues.

The chassis bracing on the convertible is pretty impressive... ASC added their rendition of a floor brace, fender braces, and even a rear STB.

[j-z]

yes, i knew him before his car was made over and when it was stock. it was never wrecked/involved in any sort of collision. the vert lacks a b pillar, AND c pillar. how can it be more stiff than a car that does posses those two extra pillars that tie everything in alot more than a car that lacks those???

every older unibody car will have some sort of door alignment issue when the weight is all on one corner of the car.

[AZhitman]

how can it be more stiff than a car that does posses those two extra pillars that tie everything in alot more than a car that lacks those???

every older unibody car will have some sort of door alignment issue when the weight is all on one corner of the car.

As I said, ASC added their rendition of a floor brace, fender braces, and even a rear STB. The door frames are reinforced, as is the firewall and the rear pan. There's even extra frame bracing underneath. No such stuff on a hatch.

And no, the vert has no such issue with door alignment when one corner is raised.

I understand the disbelief, tho.

[j-z]

hmmm.... i do recall george mentioning that the vert does come with extra bracing. when i had my s14 and i jacked up one corner of the car, the doors would be slightly off due to flex. that car was pristine too!

i guess until theres some actual real scientific numbers behind this i will believe what i believe, and youll believe what you believe. im not saying your right, nor wrong. theres just no scientific numbers that I have seen that disputes this. no sense in beating a dead horse....

/thread jack lol...

[BrianHarte]

yeah........ do I have to make a thread for you guys?

[a_ahmed]

I like the car and the paint. Looks excellent and I love hatches

Got more pix Whore away.

By the way what hood is this (sorry if I missed the post). Could fix the fitment but I love these vented hoods.

[bigtony08]

beautiful man and props for whoever took the photos

[brizanden]

yeah........ do I have to make a thread for you guys?

lmao what just happened here dude.

[Dittoz7]

[BrianHarte]

I took the photos with my camera phone.

Hood pins look terrible. I'd rather go with no pins and TRUST that the latch will work properly. If it doesn't, oh well.

DMAX hood. Fits fine to me.