AT WHAT POINT DOES THE MPG GET BETTER???

[C-Kwik]

Don't bother. I asked him what it was once before too and he avoided answering it. He's probably embarrassed of it or something...

[Jacko3]

Beancooker and C-kwik:

O.k., I am going to clue both of you in on the engine of the little nissan, but you will have to fill in the blank. Are you ready? Here it goes, GA1*D*. How about that ?

[heliochrome85]

200SX or Sentra?

GA16D?

[smockers83]

A B13? With 92 HP? Yea, that's little alright.

[Jacko3]

Getting close! One letter missing after the D

[heliochrome85]

its a GA16DE cause the DS was carburated.

[Jacko3]

Heliochrome:

I shall neither confirm nor deny the answer you provided. Well done!

[Minmey15]

Minmey15:

Then, how do we explain the use of traction control and ABS in Formula 1 cars and in the GT-R, since these sports cars are way beyond GT cars? These technologies should technically hinder the classification of these types of vehicles as non-sports oreinted cars.

Anyway, thanks for the info on the Nissan brand of cars. Yes, the Skyline and Skyline GT-R are different cars. How is your day coming along?

I was talking about your precious rear active steer. If you look around, do you see rear active steer on Formula 1 car? Now days, ABS has gotten so much better. 10 years ago, no ABS can come close to our foot, but now days, it is so much better. So I was never talking about ABS. It is pretty much standard. But traction control, Like C-Kwik was saying, totally different from Formula one traction ocntrol system. For you to use it in your arguement is just pathetic and laughable.

And to translate what you said, you think my statement excludes GT-R from being a sports car because it has traction control?

Again, do you know anything about difference between Skyline and Skyline GT-R? Our Skyline has been Front engine, rear-wheel-drive. Skyline GT-R, since BNR32, has been Front engine, all-wheel-drive, which is based on rear-wheel-drive, but once you start to lose control, it splits torque between front and rear from 0/100 to 50 /50. Are you seriously comparing this Attessa system and our little so called traction system we have in our car? Have you ever driven Skyline GT-R or real performance cars? If you have, you wouldn't compare G35 and those cars.

But to answer your question, I do not consider Skyline GT-R a sports car. Nissan brought Skyline GT-R back in 89 as BNR32 for one reason. To win Group A racing. Nissan developed RB26DETT to use in that race, and that is why it is capable of handling 600WHP without so much problems. So.. I consider Skyline GT-R a street version of a race car.

[Jacko3]

mINMEY15:

You said, "But traction control, Like C-Kwik was saying, totally different from Formula one traction ocntrol system. For you to use it in your arguement is just pathetic and laughable."

Very flawed argument. Traction control made in heaven or made in hell, or made by a leprachorn, is still traction control, as far as the use of technology, to keep cars as fast as Roadrunners or as slow as sloths, under control, while in motion, is concerned. Think again!

Who cares about the bible load of information on Skylines? If I wanted to know more about Skyline, I would probably get that info from other more reputable sources, as in "the world at large" on the web.

Speaking with grace is a great virtue that should be learned as a matter of habit.

[smockers83]

These technologies should technically hinder the classification of these types of vehicles as non-sports oreinted cars.

The way I read this, it is a double negative of what you intended to say, I think. This reads as--the technologies help classify these vehicles as sports cars. This is also a George Orwell translation.

[heliochrome85]

i have to say, you have been very combative in this thread. i dont normally, wade into these, but you write as if you are trying to make yourself sound smarter than you are. No one knocks you for your poetry, or "secret tracks", so don't knock other's "bible load of information on Skylines"

Take your own advice "Speaking with grace is a great virtue that should be learned as a matter of habit." Learn it.

[Jacko3]

Heliochorme85:

Did you see or miss this part of Minmey15 comment, "....For you to use it in your arguement is just pathetic and laughable.""?

Does that comment sound like the comment of a person who wishes to speak to the other with respect and decorum? When you answer that question, please let me know.

I will not accept anyone speaking to me like a thug. This should be a place for minds to meet, and not a place for a few to insult and denigrate others.

I did not come to this forum to be spoken to like a thug. If speaking properly is a reason to be defined as combative, then touche.

If you further wish to get in touch with me, then you may e-mail me at [email protected]

[MaximA32]

Hey Jacko,I'm not sure where you got the idea that I don't push my car. I've gotten myself into many a sticky situation and pushed through it. But there are a few things to consider:

1) I'm young and I don't like expensive insurance. So I don't drive like an idiot all of the time...Actually I just don't drive like an idiot at all.

Say's the guy who's going drifting. I call serious shenanigans on you not pushing your car.

And just in case you decide to edit that post..

Thanks for the reply. I'm going to see if I can just find a pair first. I just need some rears for a drift event. I'm a little poor ATM with the event putting me back $130, so I'll keep these in mind.

[heliochrome85]

my point is that you have been less than courteous with Sentient, C-Kwik, and Minmey. No one spoke to you like a thug until after your "witty banter" got the best of them. The question is, how long will moderators and other forum members tolerate your style. I have a feeling that Im not the only one annoyed in this thread.

[heliochrome85]

haha, caught!

[Jacko3]

Heliochrome:

Please qualify your comments, show me where in the last day or week I was first discourteous to C-Kwik? I beleive C-kwik has taken the pains and time to start a brand new mode of discussion with me (please, read our recent conversations and comments). This has not been the case with others who feel som god given right to insult anyone they fell like.

As for Mr Sentient and Minmey15, they will receive regards form me when they decide that certain words should never be used with me when they feel they want to have an adult conversation with me. And please, show me where and when i was first discourteous to them?

Please, do so and significantly qualify your comments, or else you have no leg to stand on with these broad comments you are making.

I have a personal policy of not being discourteous to anyone until they decide to take the plunge with me. I am eagerly waiting for your response. please post the thread, and I will show you the exact moment when the people you defend, started out with less than appropriate method of communication with me.

And then i asked, you, again, did you miss Minmey15's initial comments to me?

What if I said you argument was "pathetic", what would you think of me? Why has Minmey15 and Sentient, not for once ever used the type of language they use with me with others? So, what is good for the goose isn't good for the gander? So, what is your point? What are you really trying to say?


Modified by Jacko3 at 4:56 PM 5/28/2008

[TeflonG35]

Why do I have a feeling people are trying to talk smarter then they really are.... Not to mention how off topic this has gotten.

[heliochrome85]

im going to chose to walk away. all i can say is remember Bean's post above. enjoy your afternoon.

[TeflonG35]

All this bickering is pointless and beancooker is getting POed. It is kind of annoying. Not to mention you jacked a new guys post. Probably scared the poor guy away.

[heliochrome85]

point taken. ill edit mine.

[Jacko3]

Back to the topic at hand, so, Mr heliochrome, what would you suggets is the best way to increase and improve MPG in the G-35 Coupe?

[TeflonG35]

We just need to stop name dropping. It tickles our male egos. I said WE so I am included in that.

[Jacko3]

Maybe, but how so? Nonetheless, I could rephrase,

Back to the topic at hand, so, what would we suggest is the best way to increase and improve MPG in the G-35 Coupe?

[TeflonG35]

I really don't want to keep posting off topic on this post. But when i say someones name, that guy is called out. Our male egos feel the need to reply and many of us fight out points that we know are wrong. We dredge out long battles that could have been less personal if we keep it vague. We can argue a point without attaching a name to it.

[Sentientbydesign]

Say's the guy who's going drifting. I call serious shenanigans on you not pushing your car.

And just in case you decide to edit that post..

You wanna start a pissing match A32? You're welcome to take the 30 min drive to MoVal and watch me drive. I honestly don't push my car and I don't appreciate the innacurate deductive reasoning.

I don't have a reason to edit my posts because I hold to them. I've been quite nice to my G for quite a few reasons:

1) I'm still getting used to RWD.2) The car is being financed.3) My insurance with a new "ding" on my record would go up to around 6k a year. It's at around 3k and will drop to around 2500 next month.4) Tires and gas isn't cheap and I can't go around spending 2k-3k a year on tires and $400+ on gas.

A friend of mine is instructing at a gymkhana drift event on the 22nd of next month. I thought it would be nice to get out and learn how my car handles at it's limit on a SKID PAD.

Spectators are welcome. Email me if you want to watch.

As for the on going debate over sports car vs. non-sports car. I think it's funny that Jacko keeps getting into arguments even when I lay low. HINT HINT

[WDRacing]

I dunno why anyone is arguing at all...the G35 never boasted good gas mileage and anyone that buys a car that looks like the G knows it's a sports car. And anyone that defines sports car by limited narrow view sucks c*** by choice...

/thread

[Minmey15]

mINMEY15:

You said, "But traction control, Like C-Kwik was saying, totally different from Formula one traction ocntrol system. For you to use it in your arguement is just pathetic and laughable."

Very flawed argument. Traction control made in heaven or made in hell, or made by a leprachorn, is still traction control, as far as the use of technology, to keep cars as fast as Roadrunners or as slow as sloths, under control, while in motion, is concerned. Think again!

Huh? Are you serious? Then your v35 is nothing more than Toyota Prius, for it's got four wheels then, right? What makes your car so special? It's still a car, isn't it?

I remember your saying G35 and 350Z were made for track and twisties, but your statement above just proved that your V35 coupe is nothing more than ordinary car? Very interesting.....

And I am not teaching you about Skyline or Skyline GT-R. Skyline holds a special place in my heart, and only those who can appreciate love the car, and that is something you cannot teach. That's something you feel.

[Sentientbydesign]

Minmey15,

Like I said before. Arguing with "him" is not worth it. I'm on your side here, but having a slightly cooler head, I'm asking you to step back for a little here. I don't think anyone is really siding with "him".

Have you ever tried yelling at a foreigner that doesn't speak english? This thread is looking like that right now.

[WDRacing]

Have you ever tried yelling at a foreigner that doesn't speak english? This thread is looking like that right now.

[TeflonG35]

Minmey15,

Like I said before. Arguing with "him" is not worth it. I'm on your side here, but having a slightly cooler head, I'm asking you to step back for a little here. I don't think anyone is really siding with "him".

Fire can only last if it has fuel. Let it burn out.