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How many actually saw the keynote?

did you guys see how iwork works?



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zacmil wrote:
I would disagree. The thing that frustrates me the most about a lot of Mac users is that that they have bought into this idea that by owning an Apple product that means you're one of the cool kids now.
I'm actually pretty cool.

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zacmil wrote:I would disagree. The thing that frustrates me the most about a lot of Mac users is that that they have bought into this idea that by owning an Apple product that means you're one of the cool kids now. That, in my humble opinion, is the reason for all of the Mac pollution on college campuses. While I admit that Apple makes some excellent products (iPod FTW) I get annoyed at how overpriced and overhyped everything is. I also get really annoyed at being expected to pay $150 for a simple repair and I get even more annoyed that because of my DIY job they won't touch it if I ever require a major repair
well duh, apple = hip!

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Jesda wrote:
I'm actually pretty cool.
Haha! That's why I said MOST Mac users. I have no problems with people who do their research and make an informed decision based on their particular needs and experiences. The problem I see is a lot of people buy one because the Mac commercial says that it's better than a PC.

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zacmil wrote:
Haha! That's why I said MOST Mac users. I have no problems with people who do their research and make an informed decision based on their particular needs and experiences. The problem I see is a lot of people buy one because the Mac commercial says that it's better than a PC.
The Microsoft ad says a PC with Windows is better. Pick your bandwagon. Mac OS X has 6% of the market. I don't know why computer geeks complain so much about it.

I'm going to dial it back to 1995.Warp 3, b*tches.

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I didn't buy my mac because a witty commercial (marketing is good but not enough to drop the amount of money that i did), I bought it because i got tired of windows, and i actually found it suitable for my needs. Apple isn't racking the money in because they make s***ty products. Eventhough there are plenty of people that may fall for the commercials, but im sure there is people who do go buy things on the first tho just to be able to say they had it
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Haha! That's why I said MOST Mac users. I have no problems with people who do their research and make an informed decision based on their particular needs and experiences. The problem I see is a lot of people buy one because the Mac commercial says that it's better than a PC.
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I been waiting for a big a** touch screen pad with internet capabilities.

Will I get the ipad. No.

Why? I like it to be more open sourced. Like a pocket pc. Where I can install any browser of my choice. But this is one step closer to having a affordable wireless internet pad ( of course not a MAC.. sorry....) that's easy to carry around and not a mini computer. IMO.

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Rare_f8 wrote:I been waiting for a big a** touch screen pad with internet capabilities.

Will I get the ipad. No.

Why? I like it to be more open sourced. Like a pocket pc. Where I can install any browser of my choice. But this is one step closer to having a affordable wireless internet pad ( of course not a MAC.. sorry....) that's easy to carry around and not a mini computer. IMO.
I think the fact the ipad will be selling at 500 when everyone thought 999, has alot of companies scrambling to lower their production cost to be able to compete or miss on the opportunity to rake in profits for themselves. In the end it opened the floodgates, for people who wanted any type of tablet.


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^

This will definitely drive down the price of tablets.

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Jesda wrote:
The Microsoft ad says a PC with Windows is better. Pick your bandwagon. Mac OS X has 6% of the market. I don't know why computer geeks complain so much about it.
initial_jc wrote:I didn't buy my mac because a witty commercial (marketing is good but not enough to drop the amount of money that i did), I bought it because i got tired of windows, and i actually found it suitable for my needs. Apple isn't racking the money in because they make s***ty products. Eventhough there are plenty of people that may fall for the commercials, but im sure there is people who do go buy things on the first tho just to be able to say they had it
I know all of this... I don't really try to hate on Macs, I just think it's silly when people drop a stupid amount of money on a Mac when they could get a comparable PC for a lot less money. I also realize that things come down to personal preference and that it's a little silly to argue that one is superior to the other, they both have their pros and their cons. Like I said, Apple makes some excellent products, like the iPod, I just don't think most of what they make is worth the money.

I was being a little sarcastic about the whole commercial thing... I realize that people don't buy a Mac because of a commercial. I was really trying to make a statement about how the average consumer doesn't try to learn anything about what they purchase, they just jump on whatever they perceive to be the bandwagon.

I'm also a little bitter because of a recent experience I had with Apple.

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I think this is a bit more fitting

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People like macs because they "flow." They don't have annoying little quirks like PC's and they work alot smoother. The whole price and value thing is very subjective.

A big reason why people like PC's more is because they have so many more options. It makes the user feel more powerful knowing they can tweak with their system, when really, it just creates more things to go wrong.

I mean really, if you want a computer for everyday use, and don't need to run a complicated program, where does a Mac not deliver? It's so much more user friendly, and that's why they sell so many of them. Less is more....but it does come at a price.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:People like macs because they "flow." They don't have annoying little quirks like PC's and they work alot smoother. The whole price and value thing is very subjective.
What are you talking about?

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Windows is so freaking annoying. I hate it.

It just sucks.

I can't wait till I go to college in a year. I'll be getting some kind of Mac. They're so nice.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Windows is so freaking annoying. I hate it.

It just sucks.
Can you describe how it sucks? How Macs just "flow" compared to them?

Why it deserves your hate?

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My computer is in good shape. No viruses or anything like that.

All the time (I use chrome), I get that annoying flash player error and have to ctrl, alt, del and end the task. This usually happens almost every 10 minutes if it's a bad night. I have to close my whole browser.

Sometimes my computer randomly freezes up.

Keys on my keyboard are sticking.

The build quality on PC laptops are nowhere near a mac. They feel cheap and plasticy. All of them except maybe a really high end PC

It sometimes lags when you click on something

Touch pad randomly stops working

I could go on and on and on.....

A lot of these things have happened to all the computers my family has owned. We've had HPs, Dells, Compaqs, and a couple others. Windows just sucks and now, they're playing catch up with Apple.

/rant

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:My computer is in good shape. No viruses or anything like that.

All the time (I use chrome), I get that annoying flash player error and have to ctrl, alt, del and end the task. This usually happens almost every 10 minutes if it's a bad night. I have to close my whole browser.

Sometimes my computer randomly freezes up.

Keys on my keyboard are sticking.

The build quality on PC laptops are nowhere near a mac. They feel cheap and plasticy. All of them except maybe a really high end PC

It sometimes lags when you click on something

Touch pad randomly stops working

I could go on and on and on.....

A lot of these things have happened to all the computers my family has owned. We've had HPs, Dells, Compaqs, and a couple others. Windows just sucks and now, they're playing catch up with Apple.

/rant
Everything you just said sounds like you bought a bunch of low-end equipment and want to complain about it.

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I have an HP TX1000 tablet.



By no means junk. New, it costed just as a much as a mac. Granted, I got mine for a good deal, but I would expect something just as good for the price.

Isn't HP like the best selling PC brand or something? WHY?!?! I don't get it.

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zacmil wrote:I would disagree. The thing that frustrates me the most about a lot of Mac users is that that they have bought into this idea that by owning an Apple product that means you're one of the cool kids now. That, in my humble opinion, is the reason for all of the Mac pollution on college campuses. While I admit that Apple makes some excellent products (iPod FTW) I get annoyed at how overpriced and overhyped everything is. I also get really annoyed at being expected to pay $150 for a simple repair and I get even more annoyed that because of my DIY job they won't touch it if I ever require a major repair
So you're suggesting that I am trying to be a 'cool kid' and that I'm making uninformed opinions in favor of Apple's products? Hm. I never said "I want an iPad because they're cool..? It is an innovative product, and a lot of people could probably get the most from it. I was simply saying that after it's been out a while, it will open up to more people that don't own / dont want to own an iphone, but could utilize the apps that will be developed, the growing popularity of ebooks, etc..

To clear things up, I own an Apple laptop computer for many reasons.. And no, none have anything to do with being cool. I graduated college with a Bachelors in Fine Arts. You can do the math as to why I chose an Apple product over a Windows-based-PC.
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I know all of this... I don't really try to hate on Macs, I just think it's silly when people drop a stupid amount of money on a Mac when they could get a comparable PC for a lot less money.
This has been an age-old argument that has been reamed. To. Death. Not worth arguing about.
zacmil wrote: I also realize that things come down to personal preference and that it's a little silly to argue that one is superior to the other, they both have their pros and their cons.


Then why b*tch about the cost? People have their reasons, and moreover, their needs for specific products from specific manufacturers. It's business.
zacmil wrote:I was being a little sarcastic about the whole commercial thing... I realize that people don't buy a Mac because of a commercial. I was really trying to make a statement about how the average consumer doesn't try to learn anything about what they purchase, they just jump on whatever they perceive to be the bandwagon.


I actually held off several months before deciding to purchase my most recent MacBook Pro. Yes, I considered PCs as well. Again, it came down to needs and preferences.
zacmil wrote:I'm also a little bitter because of a recent experience I had with Apple.
:cry

I lost a paper while typing it on a Windows-based computer while I was in college. I'm not picketing on the sidewalks about how crappy PCs are.

/blah blah blah

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EazyBreazy wrote:Apple should have developed a more streamlined version of OS-x aimed at mobile devices
Uh.. The iPod touch and iPhone software IS based off of OSX architecture.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Isn't HP like the best selling PC brand or something? WHY?!?! I don't get it.
HP is generally crap. Compaq? EL OH EL!

Dell is not much better, but the XPS brand is nice. I like Toshiba, they rule. See, PCs have good manufacturers and bad ones, but Mac only has one. You cannot make a blanket statement like you just did and expect people who know to take it seriously.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:People like macs because they "flow." They don't have annoying little quirks like PC's and they work alot smoother.
Yeah you don't know what you're talking about. I work for a big internet provider. And the first thing I can tell you is that mac's are very quirky especially with their MacMail client. Try explaining this to the dumb dumb calling in wanting to know what is wrong with the email servers because it works on one of his macs and the other one it doesn't (and of course it can't be their wonderful infallible piece of Apple garbage) . Even though the settings are exactly the same on both machines. I give them the phone number for Apple, let them explain. It's even better if they have a Windows machine that can get email, very funny how they can't get their brain around that phenomenon.


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Windows sucks. Toshiba does too. My aunt has one and has oodles of problems.

If Toshiba really was THAT GOOD, wouldn't they be more popular? It's not like they just came out yesterday.

And the fact that Apple can basically start and control trends, compete with ALL windows computers, and create such new and innovative products really says a lot. ESPECIALLY since they're just one company.

Would you really take a PC over a mac if they were the same price Dave?

And just to sum my opinion up, people that want total control over their computers and want to pick all the options will use Windows. People that just want to use their computer and not have to deal with all that use a mac. I would rather just use my computer.

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Windows sucks. Toshiba does too. My aunt has one and has oodles of problems.
Windows does not suck. You're proving yourself to be more an more of a fanboi every time you talk about Macs. Your opinion is blind! Also, I'm sure your aunt's one experience has everything to do with everyone else's. Not.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:If Toshiba really was THAT GOOD, wouldn't they be more popular? It's not like they just came out yesterday.
They are pretty popular, it's just more of a high-end piece of equipment. You just don't roll in those circles.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:And the fact that Apple can basically start and control trends, compete with ALL windows computers, and create such new and innovative products really says a lot. ESPECIALLY since they're just one company.
The fact they can control it has more to do with the fact they don't let other manufacturers make their equipment. They usually call it a monopoly around here...
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Would you really take a PC over a mac if they were the same price Dave?
I would buy a Powermac if I was doing graphics, yeah. I wouldn't buy one otherwise because I am always changing the options and adding new ones and Mac is just too limited. I would rather have a PC with Linux on it and either operating system type on it also so I can run everything.
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To the people I seem to have annoyed:

I'm being a little sarcastic about this whole PC vs. Mac thing. Like I have said a couple of times, both have their merits and their flaws. It's a little pointless to argue which is better because it all comes down to personal preference.

Shift_Z:You are exactly the sort of person that I am not referring to. You say that you researched your options and made your decision based on what fits your needs. In regards to my poor experience with Apple, it wasn't something as silly as losing a paper... stuff happens. My complaint is with the company myself. My iPod (5th generation) had a slight problem with the headphone jack and when I tried to get it fixed I learned that Apple was going to charge approximately $150 dollars to fix it. That is stupid. I just dislike that to get anything repaired, you are supposed to send it to Apple. And before anyone gets upset about this comment, I do realize that this is an MP3 player and that getting it repaired would be a little trickier than a computer.

AZ89two4Tsx:You mentioned that PC users tweaking their PCs just create more problems. That doesn't make much sense to me. Yes, if you don't know what you are doing, you are likely to mess something up, but if you know what you are doing I don't really see why this would happen.

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Dattebayo wrote:
Windows does not suck. You're proving yourself to be more an more of a fanboi every time you talk about Macs. Your opinion is blind! Also, I'm sure your aunt's one experience has everything to do with everyone else's. Not.
You just contradicted yourself from your statement about HPs, Compaqs, and Dells.
Dattebayo wrote:They are pretty popular, it's just more of a high-end piece of equipment. You just don't roll in those circles.
Since when is Toshiba "high end?" On their website, they have 29 different models under $800.
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The fact they can control it has more to do with the fact they don't let other manufacturers make their equipment. They usually call it a monopoly around here...
Why should they? That would go against what they stand for and make them just as crappy as Windows. They became successful doing it THEIR WAY.
Dattebayo wrote:I would buy a Powermac if I was doing graphics, yeah. I wouldn't buy one otherwise because I am always changing the options and adding new ones and Mac is just too limited. I would rather have a PC with Linux on it and either operating system type on it also so I can run everything.
Why not Linux on Mac?

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AZ89two4Tsx wrote:You just contradicted yourself from your statement about HPs, Compaqs, and Dells.
Exactly how?
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Since when is Toshiba "high end?" On their website, they have 29 different models under $800.
Hmm, well I was referring to the Satellite. My graphics buddies online love 'em.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Why should they? That would go against what they stand for and make them just as crappy as Windows. They became successful doing it THEIR WAY.
Not true, not if you know your history.
AZ89two4Tsx wrote:Why not Linux on Mac?
Because it won't support anything I want, really.

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I had a Toshiba Satellite. Good laptop.

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Expose and space look it up

that is the main reason Mac pawns

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i meant flows sorry guys dont look to deep into that


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