Anyone Up For Some Civil Disobedience?

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corey240
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one time the thing went off on this person 10 feet ahead of me and the dude came over and grabbed me for it and said dont move and he was in his 30's and my friends dad aka lawyer came over and told the man to let go or him and that walmart will have less items then a 7/11. i busted out laughing at him and left.

people just take the clothes and wear them or stick items in ther pants etc if they steal. id say 40% actualy place an intem in the bag and go for it. or they take gift bags or paper bags and surround the inside with foil then put another bag over it eliminating the detectors all together.

dont do it and yes i know all of this from the lawyer, we had a long talk the next time i was there about ahole's like that


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Actually, 90% of retail losses are "inside" jobs - either employee theft OR employee-assisted theft by one or more associates.

It's as simple as "neglecting" to ring up an item at the register.

If these morons were smart, they'd put cameras on the cashiers, rather than harassing (yes, harassing) people at the door.

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Oddly enough, I've never been stopped when one of those alarm things goes off. I just keep walking and I guess the employees of Walmart/Best Buy, etc. figure it isn't worth the $5/hour they're getting paid to chase me.

Anyway, if I'm going to hassle a retail clerk, it'll just be for the sheer misanthropic joy of it and not some sort of statement about personal freedoms.


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AZhitman wrote:Actually, 90% of retail losses are "inside" jobs - either employee theft OR employee-assisted theft by one or more associates.

It's as simple as "neglecting" to ring up an item at the register.

If these morons were smart, they'd put cameras on the cashiers, rather than harassing (yes, harassing) people at the door.
Agreed. At my old job employee of the month was whoever stole the least amount of **** over the past few weeks.

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^ HAHAHAHAHA....

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while putting cameras on the cashiers is a good idea, it would take more loss prevention guys to keep track of all the cameras-- especially since they have to watch all of the cameras in the store itself. this would cause an increase in prices. yah it might reduce internal theft, but from what i know about retail (which isn't much at all) LP would be more focused on catching shoplifters. besides, who would want to work at a store where you are constantly being watched by LP?

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Eh, I watched a bank of 28 remote CCTV cams when I worked for Smitty's (like a Super WalMart)... no real biggie.

2 FT staff instead of one, the losses prevented would pay for it.

Of course, then you have unionized cashiers whining about being watched...

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Cashiers Union

What is this country coming to? DO cashiers really have it that bad they need a union? Want better pay? Want better treatment? Here's an idea, get a better job! One that a robot won't be doign in 10 years.

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So anyway I tried my luck at this at the Best Buy in Annapolis this evening. The yellow shirt employee asked me to see me receipt, I told him "no thank you" and continued toward the parking lot. The security guard refused to tell me why he was impeding my path, and refused to let me pass. I was going back and forth with him until a state trooper said, and I quote, "this is how this is going to work, show him your receipt." At a POLICE officer's request I did. I know that the employee had no legal right to detain me, however I did not want to get into a confrontation with a state trooper, he has speeding tickets to write.

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I wrote a letter:

Jared Amoth((Nico doesn't need my address or phone number, I promise))

December 21, 2006Best Buy #001632643 Housley RoadAnnapolis, MD 21401

Dear General Manager:CC: Best Buy Online customer feedback

Around 8:30 this evening I stopped in to pick up my online purchase from customer service. The young lady that assisted me at customer service was very professional, and I enjoyed some small talk with former co-workers of mine at the services desk. My whole shopping experience while inside the store went smoothly, like I had come to expect from years of patronage, and a few years of employment. However I had a previous engagement to attend and found myself in a hurry to leave. My pleasant shopping experience came to an abrupt end when I arrived at the door. Both of the LP employees were busy with other paying customers, so I bypassed them with my merchandise and headed towards the second set of doors. It was at this point that one of your LP employees asked to see my receipt. I told him “no thank you” and continued on my way. The employee then grabbed my cart and asked to see my receipt again. Once again, I refused. When I asked the employee why he needed to see my receipt his reply was, “because.” When I asked him if I was accused of shoplifting he replied, “no.” He then asked me for my receipt again. It was at this point that a state police officer who just happened to be there said to me “"this is how this is going to work, show him your receipt." Seeing how this gentleman was still in the legal wrong, but a police officer I complied and left.

My issue lies not within the fact that my receipt was asked for, you have every legal right to ask that. My issue and complaint deals with the fact that I was detained for any amount of time without probable cause, all while a security guard attempted to intimidate me. I had no problem showing my receipt while I was an agent of Best Buy. However, as a private citizen I refuse to wait in a line to have my receipt checked for goods I now own. The checking of receipts is a store policy, not a law. My detainment without probable or reasonable cause was a volition of legal stature, as well as incredibly rude.

I am not sure what the training level of LP employees is, I never worked in that department, but I feel it is severely lacking. I left the store feeling more like a criminal than I did a consumer. I would suggest that the LP employees be informed that the “receipt check” is voluntary for consumers, and not legally required. Hopefully this is just one minor unpleasantly in my relationship with your company. I will continue however to demonstrate my right to not condone to unjust search and seizure, as well as my rights as a consumer. Thank you for your time and consideration on the matter.Sincerely,

Jared Amoth



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