Americans, this is sad....

[PoorManQ45]

This post only shows women, but it applies for american men too:



I never understood how people can let that happen to them?

Maybe someone that this has happened to can chime in.

*edit* Nico's resizing feature seems to be breaking this picture...

Changing to clickable thumbnail

[Bubba1]

The pictures are too small to understand your point...Try again.

[PoorManQ45]

The pictures are too small to understand your point...Try again.

I changed it to a clickable thumbnail as nico's resizing is breaking the picture. It's actually one long picture.

[themadscientist]

wtf are you talking about?

[PoorManQ45]

wtf are you talking about?

Did you click the picture?

The woman in the first picture is the same as the second. The one in the third is the same as the forth. Etc...

[AppleBonker]

Are the pictures in pairs? Like skinny chick in the first shot and then an after-she-let-herself-go picture following it?

Edit: SLLOOOWWWW typing today. My apologies. It's cause the country is filled with fatties. I hope this doesn't surprise you...

[scotty-2-forty]

Uh ........ Huh???

[Bubba1]

I changed it to a clickable thumbnail as nico's resizing is breaking the picture. It's actually one long picture.

Sorry, It's still too small. What are you trying to say?

[PoorManQ45]

I changed it to a clickable thumbnail as nico's resizing is breaking the picture. It's actually one long picture.

Sorry, It's still too small. What are you trying to say?

Click the picture.

This is a before and after comparison of women...

[TroubleBound]

Wow. Yeah damn i didnt notice at first but thats pretty bad. Metabolism slows down as you age, people seem to think they will be young forever. My girlfriends mom is skinny as hell i hope that is a good sign.

[PoorManQ45]

Wow. Yeah damn i didnt notice at first but thats pretty bad. Metabolism slows down as you age, people seem to think they will be young forever.

People use that as an excuse. Your metabolism slowing down doesn't force you to eat more food. If anything, it should be less.

I really hate when people say, "I am genetically predisposed to being big". No, your genetics don't make you eat the food!

[themadscientist]

People get fat, so what? People in Somalia would call that success.

[AppleBonker]

I really hate when people say, "I am genetically predisposed to being big". No, your genetics don't make you eat the food!

This doesn't bother me at all. My genetics suck. They've given me a terrible metabolism (thanks family!). However, the fix is simple. I regularly eat around 2000 calories per day and I work out a lot. Many might consider that almost under eating, but with my metabolism it works for me. It is a simple solution in theory, but the difficult part is implementation.

For the record, I don't have a problem with people being overweight or even obese. If that's what you choose to do, have at it. Just don't make excuses and complain that the world is hard on you. And don't impede on my personal space. Everyone has a different set of priorities, so I can't fault anyone for enjoying food and hating being active.

[TroubleBound]

Wow. Yeah damn i didnt notice at first but thats pretty bad. Metabolism slows down as you age, people seem to think they will be young forever.

People use that as an excuse. Your metabolism slowing down doesn't force you to eat more food. If anything, it should be less.

I really hate when people say, "I am genetically predisposed to being big". No, your genetics don't make you eat the food!

Yeah thats what i mean, because of the fact that it slows people need to decrease their food intake or increase their calorie burning, and a lot of people just keep on eating and being lazy like they are 14 again. I have a friend who has to go to the doctor to be weighed, her scale loops around (she is not 20 yet and over 300 pounds) I blame her parents for her childhood obesity but it is her fault now.

[Bubba1]

People use that as an excuse. Your metabolism slowing down doesn't force you to eat more food. If anything, it should be less.

I really hate when people say, "I am genetically predisposed to being big". No, your genetics don't make you eat the food!

Ah, clearly you're a "Shallow Hall" type. not surprising. There's more to beauty than dress size, dude. As you get older, and experience aging yourself, you'll understand more about gaining weight, and the challenges of maintaining.

Want a few reasons for women?

Slowing metalolism - it is absolutely true. It's not necessarily eating more. Its the rate of absorption. Once you hit 35 and it happens to you, you'll understand.
Pregnancies
more difficult for women to drop weight than men.
physical ailments,
certain medications cause weight gains.
Less time for physical activities
eating out more
stress
non physically demanding jobs
poor diets, the convenience of fast food.
travelling more

[PoorManQ45]

I regularly eat around 2000 calories per day and I work out a lot. Many might consider that almost under eating

I think that's one of the problems. People over the years have changed their viewpoint on what the proper amount to eat is.

If you're working a field labor job you can probably eat 3000 calories a day and not gain a pound, but if you sit at an office desk job 2000 calories is probably the limit without any outside activity.

Just a thought, in the late 90s and early 2000s cooking shows have completely blown up. I am wondering if this has a correlation to peoples acceptance of overeating.

[AppleBonker]

As you get older, and experience aging yourself, you'll understand more about gaining weight, and the challenges of maintaining.

Don't get me wrong, either. I understand it's a challenge. I really do. My diet already sucks and I don't want to imagine what it'll be like in 20 years. I don't enjoy eating, honestly. But it's a trade-off I am personally willing to make. Eating the same boring s*** day after day is not fun, but if it keeps me lean I'll tolerate it. Then again, I know maintaining this diet (and the gym routine) will become a lot more difficult if I ever have children. There are too many things stacked against people today in terms of living at a healthy weight. I just wish this weren't the case because I honestly want my loved ones to be healthier and live longer. It's completely selfish, but I'm ok with it...

[PoorManQ45]

Ah, clearly you're a "Shallow Hall" type. not surprising. There's more to beauty than dress size, dude. As you get older, and experience aging yourself, you'll understand more about gaining weight, and the challenges of maintaining.

Want a few reasons for women?

Slowing metalolism - it is absolutely true. It's not necessarily eating more. Its the rate of absorption. Once you hit 35 and it happens to you, you'll understand.
Pregnancies
more difficult for women to drop weight than men.
physical ailments,
certain medications cause weight gains.
Less time for physical activities
eating out more
stress
poor diets, the convenience of fast food.

Almost all of those things that you have listed are excuses.

Medication can NOT cause weight gain. It CAN cause a slowing in metabolism. The correction for this is a decrease in intake or an increase in activity.

I would say pregnancy is acceptable, but just look at the woman that have dealt with it and stayed fit. I think this is an excuse to just "let go".

Physical ailments - hey, you can't move so well. You probably shouldn't be eating as much as when you were a runner/sports player!

Eating out - portion control helps. just yesterday my GF and I had Chinese food. One of the dishes will blow your caloric intake for the day! So, we ordered a small portion and split it! Saved money and were able to enjoy the food.

[PoorManQ45]

There are too many things stacked against people today in terms of living at a healthy weight.

The exportation of all our manufacturing jobs surely didn't help. We mostly have service type jobs that require minimal physical activity.

Don't get me wrong, either. I understand it's a challenge. I really do. My diet already sucks and I don't want to imagine what it'll be like in 20 years. I don't enjoy eating, honestly. But it's a trade-off I am personally willing to make. Eating the same boring s*** day after day is not fun, but if it keeps me lean I'll tolerate it. Then again, I know maintaining this diet (and the gym routine) will become a lot more difficult if I ever have children.

keep up the good work!

Oh, and bubba. How is wanting people to be healthy being shallow?

[RCA]

I blame our culture.

The US is about excess for some and long hours for the other 80%.
Long hours working means no "extra" time. Plus the stress of living a "check to check" lifestyle. The more complicated life gets the less time we devote to our own health.

Plus I blame the corn sugar. The ingredients in our diets suck balls.

Watch the documentary Food Inc.
Trailer:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0[/youtube]

YouTube Playlist for Food Inc. (Parts 1-11):
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... yagLY1Nem8

[PoorManQ45]

I blame our culture.

The US is about excess for some and long hours for the other 80%.
Long hours working means no "extra" time. Plus the stress of living a "check to check" lifestyle. The more complicated life gets the less time we devote to our own health.

Plus I blame the corn sugar. The ingredients in our diets suck balls.

Watch the documentary Food Inc.
Trailer:

I love that documentary. I have tried to remove as much high fructose corn syrup from my diet as possible. This was after I read a few studies that shows that this additive suppressed your bodies ability to "feel full"

And I agree, we have gotten too focused on work. A 40 hour work week was mandated long ago, but companies use salary to get around this and work people 60, 80, even 100+ hours a week!!!

[wingFeather]

I wish I was gigantically fat. Then I would throw my weight around. It sucks being toned/average.

[AppleBonker]

keep up the good work!

Good work my a**. It's just what I prioritize because it's important to me. I would never force my lifestyle on others. I do wish the nation was healthier, but again that's for selfish reasons on my part. If smarter people lived longer (due to less weight-related health issues), that benefits me. Plus, there would be a lot more eye candy for me to look at.

RCA, while I can agree that the culture has a huge impact, like anything else I really can only blame individuals. It's a choice, plain and simple. Being fit may not be an easy choice, but it is still up to you. If you don't value the healthy side of things, no problem. But it certainly isn't society's fault. The deck may be stacked against you, but everyone can overcome if they honestly put their mind to it. There are people on these forums with health issues that make maintaining a lower weight VERY difficult, yet they somehow manage. It takes dedication, no doubt, but it is possible. And, for the record, I am very impressed by some of those people who put that work in.

[Bubba1]

There are too many things stacked against people today in terms of living at a healthy weight.

The exportation of all our manufacturing jobs surely didn't help. We mostly have service type jobs that require minimal physical activity.

Don't get me wrong, either. I understand it's a challenge. I really do. My diet already sucks and I don't want to imagine what it'll be like in 20 years. I don't enjoy eating, honestly. But it's a trade-off I am personally willing to make. Eating the same boring s*** day after day is not fun, but if it keeps me lean I'll tolerate it. Then again, I know maintaining this diet (and the gym routine) will become a lot more difficult if I ever have children.

keep up the good work!

Oh, and bubba. How is wanting people to be healthy being shallow?

Nothing wrong with wanting people to be healthy, but there is more to being healthy than maintaining PMQ's expectation of an ideal weight. In other words, you can be happy and healthy at any weight. You are specifically focusing on weight as being a problem. I'm saying that's not necessarily true.

And as far as those "excuses" go, they are more like barriers that have to be overcome than excuses. There is a difference. You are still young, so you have not had to face the barriers that many others face. To sum it up, I recommend you not be so judgemental about others. Shallow Hal was a character who judged women strictly by their looks until he was hypnotized otherwise. Sound familiar?

[Jesda]

Its actually pretty funny. Some of those girls were smoking hot.

From 14-18 I can say I was in genuinely good shape thanks to lots and lots of biking, then I got fat by 19, then lost it all when I was really poor at 20, then gained it back at 21/22, then lost a bunch, then gained a TON by 25 and kept it on until 27. Now I'm losing it again, but not being broke like I used to be makes it hard to stay thin. And being older means I have to work harder at it than before. I think the problem is that I never made routine exercise a full time habit.

When 10 cents is your dinner budget, you'll lose more weight than if you have $20 for a full rack of ribs.

[AppleBonker]

Joel, aren't we all judgmental though? I know I certainly judge and stereotype everyone I see. I'm pretty sure it's impossible not to. However, I strive to not let that affect how I treat them or interact with them. To be honest, I have no idea what anyone has gone through in their life, so I don't know that I would be any different from them if facing the challenges they have dealt with. All I know and understand is my own very specific set of experiences, so what molds anyone else is completely foreign to me (which is why I treat everyone the same, regardless of my initial judgments/stereotypes).

And, I will certainly agree that there is a lot more to being healthy than just maintaining body weight. However, with the wealth of obesity-related health issues facing this nation, you have to admit that it is a legitimate concern. I may be a huge a** (and I'll readily admit it), but I don't like seeing anyone die or suffer. If the nation could deal with the obesity problem, I think we'd all be happier. Not to mention a lot of good people would live longer lives which is honestly my only interest.

[Jesda]

Watch the documentary Food Inc.

I really hated Food Inc. Bunch of crybabies, not enough science and business analysis. That seems to be the trend with documentaries -- focus on the weepers instead of revealing anything of depth.

I laughed during a few scenes and some urban hipster bishez behind me wouldn't stop talking, and they gasped when I chuckled at the chickens.

[PoorManQ45]

RCA, while I can agree that the culture has a huge impact, like anything else I really can only blame individuals. It's a choice, plain and simple. Being fit may not be an easy choice, but it is still up to you. If you don't value the healthy side of things, no problem. But it certainly isn't society's fault. The deck may be stacked against you, but everyone can overcome if they honestly put their mind to it. There are people on these forums with health issues that make maintaining a lower weight VERY difficult, yet they somehow manage. It takes dedication, no doubt, but it is possible. And, for the record, I am very impressed by some of those people who put that work in.

I believe both sides have merit.

On one side, the individual is in control of themselves.

The problem is that the other side, society, has allowed for this behavior to continue. We have accepted that it is ok to be overweight. Hell, most Doctors are scared to tell people they need to lose weight! It's gotten to the point where if you don't ask them how to lose weight, they won't suggest anything, even if your 100lbs above what is medically deemed "healthy".

Doctors have resorted to using averages. Well, your BMI is on the upper end of average, but it's still in the average range. Well, the problem is that the average has been increasing over the years! Yeah, you're a man with a BMI of 25!!! Yeah, that's in the "average", but it's still overweight!

You are specifically focusing on weight as being a problem. I'm saying that's not necessarily true.

Shallow Hal was a character who judged women strictly by their looks until he was hypnotized otherwise. Sound familiar?

Weight and physical appearance is typically an indicator of how you feel about yourself.

I didn't say I don't like fat people. Hell, the opposite is true. Fat people are fun to be around!

[snwbrdr435]

[Dittoz7]

I can't seem to gain any weight...

But it's also happens the other way around, people who where big get small. Of course that that's a bit more then just doing nothing.