6boost Turbo Manifold Group Buy

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
Darius
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OK. Since Full-Race didn't give enough of a discount, LoveFab is taking too long to come out with something and will probably still be too expensive, Wasabi Garage does not communicate, Peak-performance is a marked up Wasabi Garage, and ebay stuff sucks a$$; I guess we are left with 6boost out of australia.

I originally found the manifold on the aussie forums, but when I e-mailed RaceSpec.com (who sells them), they never got back to me. Then REDLN started a thread that had the contact information of the guy that actually fabricates them. So, I e-mailed him last night and here is the response I got this morning. WOW! Talk about customer service!

Hi Matt, Well, where to begin. All manifolds are hand made to order. I do a variety of styles for all engines, so you can order an RB25 or 26 manifold with any flange from T25 up to T6, and anything in between, and also manifolds can be made divided or open, depending on the turbocharger/turbine you will be using it with. All my manifolds feature true merge collectors. A merge collector by design has ALL pipes meeting at a single point with the exact same angle machined from each, so in most arrangements this kinda looks like the pipes are in a circle. This behaves very differently to other forms of collectors, as when each pulse of energy passes the tip of the collector, it helps scavenge the gasses from the cylinder pulse directly following it. If the pipes don't meet at a point then they can't help scavenge the other cylinders as much. Don't get me wrong, the results may be negligable, but every bit counts right?? Now single entry style manifolds will have a 6 into 1 merge collector, and divided will have twin 3 into 1 merge collectors. I beleive there is no issues with the steering shaft location on LHD models, my manifold doesn't swing down too low, and the air con compressor is fine, my number 1 cylinder is very high. Manifolds are constructed from 3.6mm wall steam pipe, and I only use long radius sweeping bends for optimal flow. We have also done CFD testing and analysis, which has led to a redesign of our divided manifolds and small changes to 6into 1 manifolds. Manifolds are purge tig welded and feature laser cut 12mm head and turbo flanges. They are faced after welding and hand ported/polished, so the transition from head plate to runner is perfectly smooth, no sharp edges here;o) I offer a lifetime warranty against cracking, defect and failure, and in 640 manifolds I have only ever had 1 return from a circuit car that had a heat wrapped manifold, no bracing, and the full weight of the exhuast hanging from the manifold. We built a new manifold for free, braced it well, removed the heat wrap and used a heat sheild, and this car now has 2 years of weekend club use with no problems. I also have manifolds on some of australia's fastest drift, drag and circuit cars, and many street cars having done 30 000klm's of street driving with no problems. Lastly, my manifolds are close to equal length, but we have found that it makes little to no difference, even on 1100hp race engines, the key here is smooth flowing pipes with as few bends as possible, correct piping diameter, and the merge collector design. On some cars we have picked up as much as 700rpm of spool, and I am yet to back to back dyno against ANY manifold and made less than 5% more power and 200rpm faster spool. Normally the price is $1200 aus, but for a group purchase of 4 manifolds or more, I will do you them for $1000 each with studs, nuts and turbo gasket. Should anyone need different styles, the price will still be the same, they don't all need to be exactly the same. Also, in relation to stainless vs mild steel manifolds, Mild steel is by far a superior product, stainless by nature expands and contracts 3 times more than mild steel. This is like getting a piece of wire and bending it back and forth continually, soon it will break. I have built replacement manifolds for almost every brand of manifold on this earth, TRUST, HKS etc etc, as well as all the ebay stuff, and look at every single one, they don't crack ON the weld, they crack BESIDE the weld, where all this expanding and contracting focuses. I have several manifolds that have been in use for over 7 years daily driven, show me a stainless on thats ever done that without repair. Regards.................................Kyle. PS, Sorry for the lengthy email, just wanted to save a million back and forth emails with more questions and cover it all;o)

Needless to say, I'm in for one of these and am giving up my efforts on getting any of the others. I forgot to ask him about the wastegate dump position and flange/size.

Let me know if you're interested!


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cdorhout
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With today's exchange rate, we're looking at $890?

I'll buy one.

I'd want mine T3 flange and maybe even without a wastegate tube.

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Id be interested if I get enough time before its over. I spent a few hours reading posts about these manifolds lastnight and am definitely impressed with the feedback.

Darius
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Here are some pics of the RB25/26 manifold. Impressive I agree.






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Once again I need to make the obligatory moderator comment.

Please be careful with any groupbuy you choose to enter into. NICO does not condone and is not liable for any losses you might incur through theft of money or goods.

Also, be warned that it's even more risky when dealing with a company outside the US as you lose the help of any national or local law enforcement agencies if something were to go wrong.

Again, this is not a lack of confidence in Darius. He's a longtime member with an excellent reputation, and he should be commended for helping other members find this difficult product at what looks to be a great deal.

This is also not a statement against 6boost. I have no prior knowledge of them. Please be sure to research the company and contact the owner in order to gain confidence prior to sending money.

Just be careful as you proceed. If at all possible pay by some means that offers protection and assistance (ie. credit cards w/ fraud protection).

Thanks guys, and good luck, and please understand that NICO wishes you all the best, but through past experience we are required to warn members of the potential pitfalls of group-buys and foreign companies.

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Matt and I live in the same town, so if he stole my money I could just round up some friends and go break his legs.

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HOLY CRAP THATS A GOOD DEAL!

o please o please, I wish for the money to come pouring in. How soon are you guys looking to launch this?

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cdorhout wrote:Matt and I live in the same town, so if he stole my money I could just round up some friends and go break his legs.
Believe me, it's not Matt I'm worried about.

Darius
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I'm at least looking for an order of 4 or more because then he drops the price to $1000. As soon as I get 4 people on board, I think I'm going to pull the trigger. If the first batch goes well, I'm sure he'd be willing to do the same thing for a second order.

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****! Count me in!!! Thats what Im talking about. A very good read had me convinced haha.

Since hes knocking $200 for 4 of them, will that make it $400 for 8 people???

COUNT ME IN!

But how soon do we need to pay? I probably can do it in a few weeks or so once my card is paid off and then again put it on my card lol.

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lets not go there. $200 off each x 4 manifolds = $800 less revenue.

Say 50% materials and 50% labor so thats $100 off each manifold worth of materials. I doubt there is enough room and incentive for him to save another $100 in materials per manifold and $100 per labor time for each manifold although its a bulk order.

But hey

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Ok so you're #3 nizmo.

I would like to receive payment from everyone before placing the order just so I don't have to deal with people who can't scrounge up the money. And I end up living stretched and floating a $1000 free loan. Not that i think any of you guys would stiff me, but has been an issue for me in the past because I'm too damn nice.

I'm assuming it will take a little while for people to figure out exactly what they want and communicate that to me. He also sells turbo's so I might get my turbo and wastegate from him in the same order. Let's assume that I will place the order on November 2nd.

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Coolwhip wrote:lets not go there. $200 off each x 4 manifolds = $800 less revenue.
Hey it was a try

Nah, but the price is good anyways. It comes out to like $882.50 unshipped I think. Eitherway it beats full-race. Plus lifetime warranty???? Its a deal!

So Darius is ganna order and have it shipped to his place, correct? Then we pay him for shipping since it'll be cheaper that way? OR is it ganna get shipped directly to us?

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Darius wrote:Ok so you're #3 nizmo.

He also sells turbo's so I might get my turbo and wastegate from him in the same order. Let's assume that I will place the order on November 2nd.
Sells turbo, huh?

How much for a GT3076r with any recommended waste gate?

Darius, so far everything looks good. As time gets closer I'll let you know and send you the money probably a week in advance. If I dont got the money atm I'll get the 2nd batch and see how well the first batch went, but I have no worries that everything will come through.

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Yeah I'm assuming that I'll get a huge crate, then have to sort through it and send everybody's stuff out individually. I'll see if it is cheaper for him to send it out individually, because I'll have to go out and buy smaller boxes, bubble wrap and other crap to package the manifolds.

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6boost makes awesome manifolds from the aussie reviews, but i'd be wary of the LHD. LHD makes wastegate and downpipe fitment a LOT more complicated, and i doubt (no fault to the fabricator) they have a LHD 240 to reference off of.

would suck to get the manifold and have to pay shipping twice or more times to get it to fit. just something to keep in mind.

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can he make a t4 twinscroll mani, so that i can run a GT3582R

also, would the mani deal with the steering column clearance issues on the rb25 s14.

if yes to both of those answers, count me in.

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Its hard to say that the manifold will clear our steering columns but I just took a look under my hood to see if its going to fit (no turbo currently) and it looks like it going to be very close. Whats going to be fun is the downpipe and waste gate.

Can he provide us a pic of what its going to look like with a waste gate adapter? Because in that pic its the first time I saw one off of a turbo itself.

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nizmo zilvia wrote:Because in that pic its the first time I saw one off of a turbo itself.
I also found that strange. Wouldn't one think the shape of the turbine housing (it's roundness, volume, A/R, etc.) greatly affect how the turbo spools ? If you put a wastegate tube coming off the turbine housing, doesn't that mess up the flow ? my initial thought would be yes, but since it's being done... i dunno??

Darius
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Yeah that is obviously a custom setup there. It is odd that the gate is taken off of the housing like that. I have another picture of a large single on an RB26 with a normal external gate setup.

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i'm glad yaw like his mani's i asked him bout the steering col problem he said he has a lot of chassie around that he uses to make up some of these mani so if someone had a good pic of our x-member with the column attached we could show him with some measurement then we can help him out by not haveing to guess at it. but still a lifetime warranty get's me

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REDLN wrote:i'm glad yaw like his mani's i asked him bout the steering col problem he said he has a lot of chassie around that he uses to make up some of these mani so if someone had a good pic of our x-member with the column attached we could show him with some measurement then we can help him out by not haveing to guess at it. but still a lifetime warranty get's me
Already sent him a couple pics of my empty chassis to show where the steering shaft sits. I can always snap a couple of pics tonight with a tape measure in there for good...well...measure.

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that's what's up man your on the ball big time. now if only my mate in au could sell my tt setup. oh you have mail.

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I'm in for a 26 manifold for a Z car....

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Ill have the money set aside before november 2 so count me in for an rb25 manifold.

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I'm weary of wastegate placement and piping. Can you get 4 guys only and do a GB right now? I'm curious to see pics in a lhd S-chassis.I'd like to get in on the 2nd GB if possible.

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im definately in on the rb25 mani, but it'll probably bee the second group buy. i've talked to him a good bit in the last month and im also gettin a gt3582 and wastegate from him;-) cant wait for 500whp;-)

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any word on a t4 twin scroll set up?

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nice manifold it seems, and you can't beat the lifetime warranty

good looking out darius... i really need one but don't have the flow at the moment..

i would also like to see the manifold in use in a LHD 240.

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i must admit i am very impressed !!


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