6boost Turbo Manifold Group Buy

[coreansurfer]

god that thing is sexy.

i just had an unexpected expense so ill be short until the end of the month(i only get paid once a month).

sorry darius

[Darius]

Hey don't worry about it, we all get DUIs every once in a while.

I received yet another e-mail from Kyle and I'm just going to copy and paste some of what he said because I'm too lazy to type it all.

"In the standard location I use now, the gate will easily fit under the master cylinder, as long as you are all using a Tial 44 or similar compact gate. There is more room over there than an Aus delivered RHD S13/14 with ABS, and my manifold fits with gate with ABS. The 3 pictures you sent me of lovfab's setup the first one is a perfect view of the amount of room under the master cylinder for th egate to sit, and no, they don't have bugger all reflective heat, you could have te head of the gate SITTING on the plastic reseviour, and it wouldn't melt it. The problem you run into once you move the manifold forwards from being on centre, is that the pipes that loop underneath hit the engine mount. As that design sits there, the front pipe of the 2 that loop under is about 5-10mm away from the mount, it runs along side it then up again. I would have to seriously rework the design to move it forwards. Thats not to say i can't do it, I can build anything, and if 6-10 people want the same thing, then the time is worthwhile, but the other aspect is that I have CFD modelled the current design and engineered area's for specific gain, removed weaknesses in flow and un needed bends, if I change the whole design, you might lose some of those benifits. Don't get me wrong, the manifold will work as good or better than most on the market, but the little things add up to make a difference. You also start to run into problems with such massive differences in length of runners with regards to expansion and cracking, as well as the fact the front of the manifold will take all the weight with it well forward. The down side howevere to keeping it in the centre, is you will have to move your power steering res, as the compressor cover just sits next to it, it hits by a few mm, maybe 5mm?? Most people move it down to next to the radiator on the rad support panel, down near the headlight. I guess its up to you guys, I'll build whatevere you want, if you want it forward, I'll move it forward, other than moving the PS res, I can't see any needs or benifits in doing so, I think it will be fine in the middle. Lastly, the manifold won't come with the Tial flange welded on. 2 reasons for this, firstly, as I don't have a LHD vehicle here to do the gate position, I wouldn't want to weld it then you have to cut it and change it, this will annoy people far worse than just having to cut the end of the pipe a little to adjust the angle and weld there own flange on. The second is that in Australia, all wastegates come with the flanges anyway, so the customer would alrady have the flanges, it kinda makes it a waste of my money to spend $40 on a flange for every manifold, when the person who will recieve it will chuck the one they got with the gate in the corner and never use it. Regards............................Kyle."

74260Z, I e-mailed Kyle back and specifically asked him about your setup after sending him pics. What single are you looking to run? A medium or large frame? Large frame being GT40 or larger.

[fast_s14]

Kyle definately sounds like he knows what he is talking about. How long does he think it will take for you to get the manifolds after you order them?

[Darius]

oops. Forgot to add that question to the last e-mail.

[nizmo zilvia]

Hes a smart guy and knows what hes talking about. Thats why Im going to buy from him and ask no more questions. If middle he says then middle I get.

[coreansurfer]

Hey don't worry about it, we all get DUIs every once in a while.

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hahaha, im not a douche i dont drink and drive. verizon is trying to **** with me.

and i dont know what everyone is saying with wanting the manifold as forward as possible, i want my equal length, otherwise from what ive been told the twin scroll wont be as effective.

[eh?]

With my HKS 40mm it def won't fit. I do think fitment will differ greatly with all the different w/g styles. This pic shows how little space there is back there. The master cylinder/brake booster/ steering shaft/ strut tower are all in the way.

[Darius]

It looks like the collector on that manifold could be moved about 1.5-2 inches closer to the valve cover to facilitate the dump tubes.

Alright, I need to know who wants to be involved in the first round of the group buy. If some of you want to see how the first group turns out, that is fine, but you'll have to wait a little longer . I would like an e-mail from each person interested with a list of the options they want on their manifold. For example, I want a divided inlet with a t4 flange and black ceramic coating. Refer to my original post for options. My e-mail is [email protected].

I want to get this order in by November 2nd, so that will give everyone at least a week to make up their minds and figure out financing, etc.

[nizmo zilvia]

To tell you the truth I dont need this asap because the car is unregistered until next spring, but since theres a group buy I thought I'd chim in while I had a chance and get this gorgeous manifold.

So Im actually going to wait for the 2nd group buy 100%. If I needed this right now I would get it np but since I dont need it atm I'll wait for the 2nd group buy.

[fast_s14]

email sent

[Darius]

Josh I got your e-mail and will respond after I post here.

Kyle sent me a pic of a GTR manifold that he's done for a 240Z with a GT47 on it. Obviously none of us are going to run this large of a turbo right now, but it shows a forward turbo placement. See below.

He also said he can do each individual transaction instead of having me deal with everything, which kicks a$$!! I would recommend doing a paypal transaction because once you do a transfer there is nothing you can do to get your money back. It is like dropping a $50 on the sidewalk and someone else picks it up. If you want it back, you're at their mercy. I'm not saying Kyle is the least bit unprofessional, but to avoid worry and irreversibility, use paypal.

"Matt, to answer some of your questions: 1: I can deal direct with each person, this saves work for you, and transfer fee's, not to mention responsability. All people will get the same discount as long as they mention your group buy 2: I can't do credit card, I do have paypal, but this costs something like 2.7% extra or some crap, just their usual fee. The best, cheapest and most secure way for ALL people to pay, is to go into their own local branch and do an International Transfer. I think its about $25 total, they will need me to provide all my bank details here in australia, I have done this several times with international customers, everytime has been stress and hassle free both ends. However I'm still happy to paypal, they will just have to incur the extra fees. 3: I will ship the manifolds direct, with freight worked out individually to each person to their door. No one will be disadvantaged and pay double freight, as some places may be cheaper to send from here to them, let alone here, to you, then to them. This once again takes the responsability off you to me, and makes no difference to me. 4: I believe I have a jig that should fit that 240Z with a GT42. I use it to fit GT47 turbo's in GTR skylines and it sits well forward, I have attached I pic for you to show him, Keep in mind the turbo will be smaller, that is a 4788. Kyle."

[nizmo zilvia]

WOW!! That thing is massive!!

WAIT HOLD ON!!! If he has one already made why can't we use it? Just have our flanges cut and rewelded to the one we want? Im loving that style more.

[fast_s14]

The manifold definately looks sexy! Thats for sure

[Darius]

LOL! You know I didn't even look at it that closely, but that compressor housing is as wide as the head!!

I was wondering why he didn't show us this style in the first place when I kept asking about and sending pics of a forward-positioned manifold? However, if the one that sets the turbo between cyls. 3-4 fits fine, I would rather have that one since it is tested and tuned.

[nizmo zilvia]

Darius:

I believe I have a jig that should fit that 240Z with a GT42. I use it to fit GT47 turbo's in GTR skylines and it sits well forward, I have attached I pic for you to show him, Keep in mind the turbo will be smaller, that is a 4788.

If he used this one on the other GTRs then why wouldn't it be tested and tuned?? You know what I mean?

[Darius]

I think this is the one he was referring to in one of his previous e-mails where he moved it forward, but the runner lengths get further from equal-length and he did not tune it. I think this one was just fabbed up to fit that huge a$$ turbo and the customer didn't really care whether it was equal length or tuned or not. Hell that thing was probably pushing over 800 hp.

[fast_s14]

So whats the grand total for the manifold so i know how much money to have set aside?? Mine will need to be for rb25 t3 flange with black ceramic coating? thanks

[Darius]

$1250 AUD = $1107 USD plus 3% on paypal = $33 and maybe a small fee for currency conversion =$10 and shipping = $65? So set aside about $1215 USD for good measure.

[nizmo zilvia]

$1215 shipped? Quite a difference now unless Im using the wrong currency exchange site.

1,000.00 AUD = $885.741 USD

+3% ($26.57)+currency conversion like you say ($10)+65 shipping

And a grand total of.... $987.31 shipped to your door.

[fast_s14]

I thought it was normal price of 1250 and since were doing a group buy it is going to be 1000 AUD. let me know

[nizmo zilvia]

Normally the price is $1200 aus, but for a group purchase of 4 manifolds or more, I will do you them for $1000 each with studs, nuts and turbo gasket. Should anyone need different styles, the price will still be the same, they don't all need to be exactly the same.

He said 1000 aus not usd SO that will give us a lesser of a price. Read my post above. Thats how much you'll pay or close to it since there may be some hidden fees.

[Darius]

Yes but the ceramic coating is a max of $250 AUD extra depending on the color. That's where the $1250 AUD came from, not the original retail price.

[nizmo zilvia]

Yes but the ceramic coating is a max of $250 AUD extra. That's where the $1250 AUD came from, not the original retail price.

I see... I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Thats why I ask. On the next group buy when I get it, I wont have them coated since I'll have them wrapped.

[fast_s14]

oh ok sounds good, it will still be a go for me. So how many people do we have buying this manifold?

[74260zt]

Josh I got your e-mail and will respond after I post here.

Kyle sent me a pic of a GTR manifold that he's done for a 240Z with a GT47 on it. Obviously none of us are going to run this large of a turbo right now, but it shows a forward turbo placement. See below.

4: I believe I have a jig that should fit that 240Z with a GT42. I use it to fit GT47 turbo's in GTR skylines and it sits well forward, I have attached I pic for you to show him, Keep in mind the turbo will be smaller, that is a 4788. Kyle."

I really hate to be a pain, but I'm going to need to see the same pic but from a side view also. Its to hard to tell much from that one angle.

Also, I don't see a W/G pipe on there yet. Thanks for going thru the trouble for us.....

[wawazat8402]

Yeah, thank you very much for going through this much effort for us. If theres a second buy Ill most def be in on it. It should be colder by then. Bar jobs suck when people would rather go to the lake to drink their beer, haha.

[Darius]

I see... I didn't see it mentioned anywhere. Thats why I ask. On the next group buy when I get it, I wont have them coated since I'll have them wrapped.

I'm sorry guys. I've been reading on calaisturbo and got that mixed up with what I actually received in e-mail. Too much crap to keep straight. The prices on a thread that I found over there went as follows (in AUD):

Heat wrapping $200Compressor cover porting $250Ceramic coating - black $320Ceramic coating - silver $280Ceramic coating of exh. housing $250

I'll e-mail Kyle and see if the group buy can get a discount on these items as well.

74260Z - I'll e-mail him today and hopefully get more pics up tonight (US time). They are 14 hours behind so it is 10 pm there right now. I have found that he only checks his e-mail once per day in the morning, which is about 6 pm where I live.

[nizmo zilvia]

Wow heat wrapping for $176??? I though it'd be like $50 at most lol.

Darius, do you know if he will make forward mount? I still believe everyone should get forward mount for best and worry free results even though it might take some time. And in the mean time I'll probably hop on this first group by if thats the case.

[Darius]

I'm sure he does a really clean job of it for that much money. No ghetto wrap job like eh?'s hahaha jk man! I'm going to check on local ceramic coating prices before I bite on that add-on.

E-mail Kyle at [email protected] and tell him what you want and that you are with Matt Kasper's group. He'll know.

[until240]

would it be too much to hope for being able to keep my a/c? i talked to cody at lovefab and he said that he didn't know if a/c would fit with his manifold since he didn't design for it...