2003 4g63 evo swap ever been done? HELP!

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Logan76 wrote:Hazard, stop nut swinging for the 4g63 swap and go out there and do the thing. You claim you have more experience than most of us, then surely you probably have a 800hp 4g63 240sx in your garage I take it? If all you can do is toss around useless info then stfu, if you want to prove your point get out there and do it.
Not exactly, but I do have something in the garage that will crack your a** back to STFU land (and just on motor to boot), so if you want to take a lane name a time, place, and price. Otherwise go back to making more uneducated useless posts!


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Hahaha you just got all offended and challenged him from another state, like anyone gives a sh*t about you or what you have in your garage. "I'm driving to Ohio today to race some guy that was being mean to me on the internet, he told me to stfu and i wasn't having it" Haha you just made my day i really laughed out loud there for a minute. Anyways you keep talking about how easy it is and how it would be so much more worth it, what kind of motor do you have in your s13? If not a 4g63 then some cookie cutter sh*t i imagine? There's ka-t's on kat.com or whatever under 10 secs with over 1000hp, sure they've had major work done but so has said 8 second DSM. Its been about a year now since this thread started, wheres drft4g63 with pics of the build? I mean, he estimated a year and here we are, picless, no updates, why? Is it because he realized that it wasn't worth it and gave up? Without pics im going to assume this is what happened.

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Hazardc wrote:Not exactly, but I do have something in the garage that will crack your a** back to STFU land (and just on motor to boot), so if you want to take a lane name a time, place, and price. Otherwise go back to making more uneducated useless posts!
Ohhhh i was confused for a minute, THIS is what a useful educated post looks like...

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and where did I hate on KA motors again? Way to bring facts to the table once more.



Also, I don't see the big deal about being from anoher sate? I go hundreds of miles for events all the time

Tell me why it wouldn't work when there have been plenty of 4g63's swapped into plenty of RWD chasis? I mean, or you could just keep "assuming".

The sad fact is, I wouldn't even argue back if a single person showed that they actually had any knowledge at all on the topic. One by one you guys keep coming in here with 0 facts, knowledge that amounts to assumptions and hearsay, and just try to spew s*** with nothing to back up what you're saying at all.

There was a link posted in this thread a long time ago that links to another forum where people are attempting this very same swap right now.(among others)

So, prove me wrong

Tell me exactly why it's cost prohibitive, why it wouldn't work, why it's not a good option, what exactly makes it so difficult, and do it with hard facts.

Can we have that discussion, or are we better off living in a fanasy land where your assumptions should be the last word?

You're seriously saying im the dumbass because one of your buddies called me out and I said "any time any place any price"?


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You hated on ka/sr/rb all at once with the term 'cookie cutter'. See, you were trying to sound cool by making it seem like you were something special and unique, because of what engine you have in your car, but the reality is that you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are not any better than anyone here because of your 'superior' knowledge of a mitsubishi motor, maybe mitsubishi forum guys get off on your perfection, but i don't think anyone here really gives a sh*t what you have to say about 4g63 240's, because, like me and everyone else that has posted in here, YOU DO NOT OWN ONE. This thread is just 2 pages of worthless rant, and you had to bring it back from the dead because you thought your opinion on an engine swap you've never done would be helpful to a guy that probably gave up 6 months ago, because people like you on online forums made some high school kid who's parents dropped him a 4g63 and s13 think he could do it. I know that people go to other states, tard, i meant that no one would drive to another state to meet a trash talking loser like yourself, to race you..? Haha like okay if you win then its a good swap idea and if we win its a bad one? That will settle it....? Don't really see the point there, thanks for coming to Nico though, and enlightening all of us with you superior 4g63 godliness. I was already dreaming of such a wonderfully beautiful swap all i needed was for someone thats never done it to come tell me its easy so i could start. HAHA

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Hazardc wrote:The sad fact is, I wouldn't even argue back if a single person showed that they actually had any knowledge at all on the topic. One by one you guys keep coming in here with 0 facts, knowledge that amounts to assumptions and hearsay, and just try to spew s*** with nothing to back up what you're saying at all.

There was a link posted in this thread a long time ago that links to another forum where OTHER people (not me) are attempting this very same swap right now.(among others)

Modified by Hazardc at 6:40 AM 4/13/2009
Wheres your knowledge on the topic? You are just like one of us, saying this will go here and this will go there, it is really easy to say, 'i was jet turbines in my 240, ill just put them over here and wire them up.' Hah i said it would work so it has to i don't need pics to prove it i just know it will, i worked on airplanes for ten years i know all about turbines and it will so work, theres other people doing it im sure, youll just have to go find them , IM RIGHT!

Listen, if someone that has swapped one into a 240 wanted to come in here and shut us all down that would be great, with pics and specs and dynos, but your trying to come in here and prove us all wrong by saying that it CAN be done? We know it can, but it's not cost effective and its time consuming, show us the receipts you have for what it costs to drop it in, and the amount of time it takes to get it in and tune it. You want us to bring you hard facts? We aren't arguing that its not possible, its just a lot less popular than sr20's and rb's for a reason. Keep saying bring me facts bring me facts haha there is nothing to prove, look at anyof the successful build threads in here to see reliable sr's and rb's even vq's, swapping in very easily, and dyno sheets and post dates to prove how long it took. No one needs to prove that rwd nissan motors very easily swap into rwd nissan cars...

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Hazardc wrote:You don't need a sheet metal intake, it's perfectly easy enough to relocate the stock TB over to the other side of the inake manifold. All you need is a tap and a friend that can weld aluminum... OR you can just buy a used SMIM for a couple hundred bucks anymore. meh.

Fastest DSM's only making 300? Are you kidding me? I used to work a a shop in Toledo that has an 8 second DSM. I'm an hour away from a guy who has made tons of 7 second passes with a sock block/crank 4g63. I wonder how much his car weighs to be able to lay down that kinda time with 300hp? there are numerous 4g63 powered cars trapping 160+ mph in the quarter mile. There is a 4g63 powered stock displacement car making 6 second passes at 200mph. Shep went over 190mph in a freakin AWD. How can you even begin to knock it?

You really think an rb would be CHEAPER? Be real now. I love the RB engines, but parts availablitity and prices on those parts don't exactly lend themselves to. We don't live in austrailia or japan.

You show your ignorance when you say the 4g63 doesn't lend to making over 300whp very wellhttp://www.dsmtimes.org/times.php?Page=1

Yeah, just "on the dyno". There are over 500 cars on that list running 11.90 or beter. What do you actually know about them?

Honestly, you do make a few good points in general, but when you get specific about parts/potential and FACTS, you are 100% wrong on almost everything, not to mention almost everyone else who bothers to post has nothing informative to say. I have 10 years of experience working on these engines, they dont start popping after 300whp like the sr's tend to. You don't even need to crack the valve cover to make 400whp.

Seriously though, you seem to judge every other 4 cylinder by the SR's failure level. 4g63's have no problem putting 400 stock, SRT 4 engines have no problem doing it, 4b11t's do it all day, even K series honda engines s*** out 400whp like it's their job on stock internals.

That said. Id be perfectly willing to help anyone who ever wanted to do this, as long as they were at least mechanically inclined enough to do any normal swap themselves.

I don't know that I'd do it myself, but it's not the challenge you make it out to be.

Modified by Hazardc at 5:28 AM 4/13/2009
Where did you learn to read? Honestly, you misunderstand every single thing anyone posts.

When I say fastest, I don't give a rats hairy a** about race cars, drag cars, trailer queens, or garage specials. I'm talking about truly DAILY DRIVEN cars. I would like to see how your 800 hp eclipse handle daily duty. How about on the road course, Id put money I could run circles around them in a stock 3 series BMW.

Ive seen plenty of 4 cylinders make 400 on a stock bottom end, including plenty of SR's. Thats not the point, 400 is overkill on any daily driven 4 cylinder. At that power level you loose a great deal of drive ability. Sure you can still drive it on the street, but why?

I never said an RB would be cheaper, I said it had the benefit of having 2 extra cylinders, there you go forgetting how to read again. Maybe you need to go back to elementary school. I said an SR would be cheaper, which is undoubtedly true, and the same goes for a KA-T setup, a CA18 swap, hell I bet I could do a carbed SBC for cheaper.

Im not going to debate th 4gs ability to make power with you. You seem to think it is the engine to end all, this begs the question, why then pray tell did you leave the DSM world?

I've worked with countless DSM rally cars, and auto cross cars. Every rally I go to, up to 10 DSMs enter. On average, only 2 finish. Engine problems take them out of the running. Ask me how many times I've swapped a 4g head gasket mid rally.

The ability to make high power numbers is only one benefit of a 4g. To bad it fails when long term reliability is concerned.

I have only one thing left to say. See crank, see crank walk, walk crank walk.

Im done arguing with you, its obvious you know absolutely everything there is to know about fast cars.

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How about on the road course, Id put money I could run circles around them in a stock 3 series BMW.
No point in quoting anything else you saidEat your words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNlzBrI8uZs

car got 2nd place in it's first time attack event just a week ago or two.

Once again, keep telling me how stupid I am, while you spit out a bunch of s*** and continue to make assumptions. How many do I have to PROVE wrong before you stop trying to one up me?

BTW the car makes 600+ horsepower normally, and was supposedly down on power for the event.

Not bad for a FWD convertible, eh?

Not to mention, are you trying to attack evo's as well when it comes to road racing? Are you serious?

One of my best friends daily drives his K series honda that makes 425whp. I don't see what would make it so unstreetable? Spools up fast, pulls like a motherf***er.

I simply don't see these issues you claim to be there, but maybe I just need "to go back to elementary school and learn to read"

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Wheres your knowledge on the topic? You are just like one of us, saying this will go here and this will go there, it is really easy to say, 'i was jet turbines in my 240, ill just put them over here and wire them up.' Hah i said it would work so it has to i don't need pics to prove it i just know it will, i worked on airplanes for ten years i know all about turbines and it will so work, theres other people doing it im sure, youll just have to go find them , IM RIGHT!

Listen, if someone that has swapped one into a 240 wanted to come in here and shut us all down that would be great, with pics and specs and dynos, but your trying to come in here and prove us all wrong by saying that it CAN be done? We know it can, but it's not cost effective and its time consuming, show us the receipts you have for what it costs to drop it in, and the amount of time it takes to get it in and tune it. You want us to bring you hard facts? We aren't arguing that its not possible, its just a lot less popular than sr20's and rb's for a reason. Keep saying bring me facts bring me facts haha there is nothing to prove, look at anyof the successful build threads in here to see reliable sr's and rb's even vq's, swapping in very easily, and dyno sheets and post dates to prove how long it took. No one needs to prove that rwd nissan motors very easily swap into rwd nissan cars...
If you can swap a VQ easily, you can swap a 4g63 easily, a 2jz easily, an ls1 easily. That is simple logic.

I've done plenty of engine swaps in plenty of cars. Tell me why a VQ swap would be "easy" when a 4g or 2j swap is supposedly "not worth it and very hard"

That's all I'm asking. Go ahead.

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Also, are you saying that if you buy an evo IX (they make around 300 stock) and then give it a couple bolt ons, a tune, and some boost which will put it close to 400ish.. that it's no longer streetable, even though the only difference is more power and probably quicker spool times due to porting and other less restriction?

Care to elaborate on this?


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This is a very interesting thread...here goes..

I currently have a ka-t, with 300whp and 300tq...i just recently decided after debating for two years to go LSx...by no means is it any easy swap for me anyhow, i've never done a swap before and i know it's going to take me at least a year to gather all the parts up because like pretty much every tuner/carguy whatever we are not the richest people or else we'd be driving a lot nice cars.

After estimating all the money i'm gonna need to just buy parts, it comes to over 6k...that's a lot of money, and that's not including labor or miscellaneous items i'm going to need here and there...also that price includes the cheapest ls motor and transmission combo i could find.

I'm going with the ls because it's been done and they are kits out there and enough people with enough know how to help me along the way if i need it which i probably will.

It would be about the same amount if i went full built ka-t, I got a quote from AMS which i'm sure you know in the DSM world...but in the end i would rather have an 8 cylinder 400+hp DD/track car/showcar than a 500hp 4 cylinder turbo...

I like turbo cars and they are fun and i love boost but i love the ls motors even more and the fact that after i got the ka motor built, i would still need to go full stand alone, get different injectors again, etc, pretty much everything would need to be redone again.

With the LS i'm gonna use the stock gm ecu, so need for a stand alone.

I guess what i'm saying is, until "we" as a collective unit see someone or more than one person actually doing this, it's just not an option...until it's done and there are kits out there for it and widespread know how with longterm assesments...things break, as is with anycar...will there be people out there that can help.

You might be able to pull this off by yourself and not need anybody's help doing it, that's awesome, i wish i could do that but half of people on car forums don't have that kinda knowledge, expertise, tools, space and most importantly money, lots and lots of money.

I'm not personal fan of sr's in fact i dont' like them at all...i like the ka but it needs to built past a certain point, RB/1J/2J/LSx are costly in themselves but look at any custom one off build and they cost even more than these swaps

Oh and that video you posted of that eclipse, i'm sure it took a lot of time and money to complete that....it sure looked and performed good.

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This thread doesnt have enough pictures.

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HxC_Nismo wrote:or you can sell your 240 and buy a 3g eclipse gs and do the evo swap cause that has been done but dont listen to me im just one of those pointless rb swap guys
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stupid rb swaps rite? lmfao

swap a rb25 install a few bpu's and that'll walk any 4g63 crap into a 240

4g63 into a 240

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DrifterXRPS13 wrote:This is a very interesting thread...here goes..
I do agree with most of what you say. The allure of having a 300-400whp NA engine that will take beatings for life is a nice one. I've always wanted to do an LSx FD. There are a couple LS1 swapped FC's in the area, and one of my old buds now works at MA Performance in MN, who stuffed a 4g63 into an FD. Talk about controversy.

It's weird how it's almost easier to bolt on 500whp to a 4g63, but the LSx engines will make 400 ultra reliable hp day in and day out. I honestly prefer a boosted car that can run a super mild cam and still have lots of power when you romp on it, though. The street manners of a cam'd out LSx aren't exactly better at all than a car with a gargantuan turbo by any means, and actually worse for the most part.

Honesly if i do pick up another coupe, I'll probably just put a fuel system and a turbo on it, run some E85 and shove boost through it until it shoots a rod out of the block, then hopefully by then I have motivaion to try something cool. If the DOHC mod motor would fit and the trans I have didn't require any "tunnel modification", i wouldn't mind doing that.. I'm kind of skeptical of being able to make it work withou much modificaion though, and that defeats the purpose.
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stupid rb swaps rite? lmfao

swap a rb25 install a few bpu's and that'll walk any 4g63 crap into a 240

4g63 into a 240
What's the fastest RB25 car and how much is invested? Hmm? How many 9 and 10 second rb25 powered 240's are there? How many of them are on completely stock internals? I can show you quite a few AUTOMATIC AWD DSMS with completely stock internals running in the 10's and 11's. Stock engine internals, stock transmissions.

BTW, Ian... If you were changing head gaskets so often on these badass rally cars, maybe you should have invested in a good set of head studs and a good surface on the head and block. I mean Brent Rau is running around 90 psi (not a typo) making 6 second passes and doesn't seem to be popping many head gaskets. I'm sure if that car can hold a head gasket, it shouldn't be much of a problem for you.


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Honestly I dont care what you have in the garage, I could drop serious coin and be faster than you, but I don't need to prove anything. I still say you are nut swining for the 4g63. Everything out of your mouth is how great it is, if it's so great how come everyone does'nt have one? I agree everyone dances to a different tune and that if you like DSM's and I like Honda's and Ian likes Nissan's, there's nothing wrong with that, the problem is you thinking a 4g63 is god's gift to motors.

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Logan76 wrote:Honestly I dont care what you have in the garage, I could drop serious coin and be faster than you, but I don't need to prove anything. I still say you are nut swining for the 4g63. Everything out of your mouth is how great it is, if it's so great how come everyone does'nt have one? I agree everyone dances to a different tune and that if you like DSM's and I like Honda's and Ian likes Nissan's, there's nothing wrong with that, the problem is you thinking a 4g63 is god's gift to motors.
Logan76 wrote:Honestly I dont care what you have in the garage, I could drop serious coin and be faster than you, but I don't need to prove anything. I still say you are nut swining for the 4g63. Everything out of your mouth is how great it is, if it's so great how come everyone does'nt have one? I agree everyone dances to a different tune and that if you like DSM's and I like Honda's and Ian likes Nissan's, there's nothing wrong with that, the problem is you thinking a 4g63 is god's gift to motors.
No, I dont. I simply said that the swap wouldn't be as hard as made out to be with just a few fundamental fab skills. I do think it's a better engine all around than the sr20, so what? So are a lot of inline 4 engines. I personally think the sr is a junk motor in comparison to a lot of others. I've had first and second hand experience with a number of them. If you want to make <300whp, maybe they're cool. After seeing a number of them have junked bearings on delivery, i wouldn't even run one without building it. So if I bought an sr, i would have to buy an imported motor set, and then build it to be satisfied. I'd rather stick with the KA or do a swap to something im more familiar with that comes turbo from the factory.

Read the thread title, it says 4g63. That's why I discussed the 4g63. It's a good engine, one of the best inline 4's ever designed for making power, and very plentiful in the U.S. to boot. Am I supposed to hate on it just because this is a Nissan forum? Am i supposed to talk about other engines when the thread is TITLED 4g63 because your personal opinion doesn't allow for that line of thinking. Maybe you shouldn't be taking shots at people if you have nothing to bring to the table. Maybe you shouldn't be complaining about someone discussing the 4g63 engine when the thread was made to ask about that specific engine?

For the record, the 2jz is god's gift to engines
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Hazardc wrote:
Maybe you shouldn't be complaining about someone discussing the 4g63 engine when the thread was made to ask about that specific engine?

Modified by Hazardc at 12:08 AM 4/14/2009
dude, no one was complaining about this thread. some dude comes in here and asks these people for there personal and professional opinions on putting a 4g63 in a 240sx. people gave there a opinion and the OP didnt like that people on here didnt think it was a good idea becasue they thought it was to much work.

and then u wanna bring this thread back to life after 6 months, and for what. to tell people that they are wrong and it aint that hard of a swap if someone has decent fab skills. guess what, the OP was asking about how hard it is to do, so he probly dont have mad fab skills.

u wanna b**** about people not bringing anything informative to the post. all youve done is bring back a dead thread and run ur mouth. " u can do it like this" and "all u need are some decent fab skills". lets see some pics b****!!! there is only one person who has anything to bring this post, and that is for the OP to come in here with atleast pictures of a 4g63 sitting in his 240. and since its been six months since his last post, he's "probably abondon the project. which means that everyone ur ragging on right now was right in the first place.

if u wanna put people in there p[lace, put a 4g63 in a 240sx. include a complete build/parts/fab gude and prices for everything to show that it could be done efficiantly compared to other options. if u dont plan on doing that, then drop it!!!

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Maybe I just see things a little differently, since my local friend did this in his small garage by himself last summer

http://www.clubcivic.com/board...46161

Going big single this year.

So what, I bumped an old thread, better to archieve good advice than to archieve "you can't do this, it isn't worth it, will be way too hard and way too expensive, this super sweet rare jdm motor that is probably even harder to swap and is a tighter fit and costs more for parts is a WAY better choice!"


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ur arguing a matter of opinions.

if somebody doesnt want an opinion on something, he shouldnt ask for it. as far as i know, nodody said it couldnt be done. they are saying that they dont think it is worth it to do. people here have the right to their own opinions, if u dont agree with them, ohh well.

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Do you really think people saying "it's way too expensive in comparison to x" is opinion? You can lay down numbers on that to make it a fact. Numbers aren't subjective

When someone says "X sucks because it can't handle ____ and can never make x amount of power reliably"

That's making a false argument. IF you have an opinion, and it can be proven wrong, it's no longer an opinion. It's ignorance. Ignorance isn't always a bad thing, but when you refuse to accept that you may be ignorant on a subject, it turns into stupidity, and stupidity is a bad thing.

It's kind of ironic the one guy that came in here and made a rational post was the only one who seemed to have a grasp of basic grammar and intelligent thought.

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like i said before, if u want to prove anyone wrong. ur gonna have to do it right. thats gonna take a complete swap guide and prices with many pictures to show everything along the way. without that, anything u say is kinda pointless. cause so far, with the OP as evidence, these guys are right!

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I never said that we should'nt talk about other motors on a Nissan forum, I sold my 240's and bought a civic just to do something different, I do love that cobra with the 2jz swap though, thats way out of the ordinary.

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It's getting some goodies this year.. Should be a good time at the fun ford meet if they don't light it on fire before it gets to make a pass.


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So I was going to look at an RX7 to buy today, and on the way I saw a nice 240 hatch broke down on the side of the highway. I left my phone number under the wiper.

It made me think of this thread. It was a hatch though. Hatches are kinda ghey, but it was black. Black makes everything better.

I bet if it had a 4g in it, it would have still been running.

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Hazardc wrote:
I do agree with most of what you say. The allure of having a 300-400whp NA engine that will take beatings for life is a nice one. I've always wanted to do an LSx FD. There are a couple LS1 swapped FC's in the area, and one of my old buds now works at MA Performance in MN, who stuffed a 4g63 into an FD. Talk about controversy.

It's weird how it's almost easier to bolt on 500whp to a 4g63, but the LSx engines will make 400 ultra reliable hp day in and day out. I honestly prefer a boosted car that can run a super mild cam and still have lots of power when you romp on it, though. The street manners of a cam'd out LSx aren't exactly better at all than a car with a gargantuan turbo by any means, and actually worse for the most part.

Honesly if i do pick up another coupe, I'll probably just put a fuel system and a turbo on it, run some E85 and shove boost through it until it shoots a rod out of the block, then hopefully by then I have motivaion to try something cool. If the DOHC mod motor would fit and the trans I have didn't require any "tunnel modification", i wouldn't mind doing that.. I'm kind of skeptical of being able to make it work withou much modificaion though, and that defeats the purpose.

What's the fastest RB25 car and how much is invested? Hmm? How many 9 and 10 second rb25 powered 240's are there? How many of them are on completely stock internals? I can show you quite a few AUTOMATIC AWD DSMS with completely stock internals running in the 10's and 11's. Stock engine internals, stock transmissions.

BTW, Ian... If you were changing head gaskets so often on these badass rally cars, maybe you should have invested in a good set of head studs and a good surface on the head and block. I mean Brent Rau is running around 90 psi (not a typo) making 6 second passes and doesn't seem to be popping many head gaskets. I'm sure if that car can hold a head gasket, it shouldn't be much of a problem for you.
ok these a guy here with a rb20 running a 8.70 at 147

im in the high tens with my rb,

be different, your money. ive had a dsm, decided i dont like em, i think dsms are for .... people but thats my .02

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SullivanRacing06 wrote:
ok these a guy here with a rb20 running a 8.70 at 147

im in the high tens with my rb,

be different, your money. ive had a dsm, decided i dont like em, i think dsms are for .... people but thats my .02
I love The RB engines, it's just the money associated with a high powered RB engine isn't worth spending on a 240 IMO when the goal could be met easier with KA-T, 4g63, LSx, or even a 2jz.. at least in the U.S.

If I'm going to spend baller money I'm going to get a baller chasis.

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Well, to help tackle some of the obstacles that your going to face, I'll help with what I know. For a RWD DSM transplant, be it Eclipse,Talon,Laser,Starion,Mighty max, the intake manifold is simple. For you, since your using an Evo long block, the 1st and 2nd gen intake manifolds will bolt on and face the way you need them to. For mounts, a good start are mighty max mounts (not sure if they bolt up to the evo motor tho...) as they bolt on to the block in the right spots (1st gen), but I'm not sure how close its going to be with the 240...but it'll get you going in the right direction. I cant help with wiring, because I haven't started to tackle mine yet. I encourage the swap, but prefer the 1st gen motors (6 bolt crank and no crank walk issues) in the 240 over the Evo Motors because of the side of the turbo. I dont like where the turbo sits on the SR/RB/KA as you can run into issues with the brake master cylinder. With the 1st gen motor, the exhaust mani is on the passenger side, and intake mani is on the driver's side. I'm not concerned with powersteering/ac for my swap because its not my daily so I cant help you with that.

As for me, the reasons I'm going with the 4g63t is because 1)I love the motor but am tired of dealing with AWD transmission woes, 2)The wife hates the look of the dsms, and 3)My long block was traded for an AWD transmission and t-case that I dont need and my W58 supra transmission (with bolt on bell housing) was a trade for some other parts. So basically, my motor and trans set are gifts and I still have a totalled 1st gen from a year ago sitting at a friends house begging for parts to get used. I've already painted my 240, fully gutted it, purchased wheels, tires, brakes and everything needed for it and my sponsor is giving me bearings, new rings, gasket over haul kit, arp studs all around, a balance shaft elmination kit and a few other things to get me started on the swap. When I start the build for the motor, I'll post it here so that others can see whats going on with it and if anyone else needs info on how the swap is done, I'll start having info on that too. Its not a hard swap...just time consuming since I'm going into uncharted waters. I think there needs to be more encouragement to try new things, more help among the tuners, and a better bond between imports and domestics...but I dont see some of these happening from others, so I'll do what I can on my part to help out with this on my swap for ya. Good luck man!

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VERY NICE BUILD..

BTW the 4G63 has been turned and made RWD for drift before but i havent seen it in a car..Check it outDrift Team: SuislideName: Whiplash

http://thedrifttruck.com/

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Hi sorry to have left you all hanging I bought a house paid off my cars and put spending money on the back-burner I know some of you think theres a victory cuz i did not do it in the year I had planned but oh well... I forgot cuz life is more than retarted swaps I feel though I have accomplished something though as it was my idea and no one else said ne thing but someone else did do something and it may not seem like a win for me but the genesis coupe 2.0t is basically the car i was dreaming to build with my swap its not as bad azz cuz its too heavy and its a 4b11t not an evo 8 or 9 4g64t I would like to rest may case though maybe 1 day someone will see this thread and built it but I am satisfied now just knowing it can b done
thanks 4 those who supported me sorry i let you down

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I'm working on a Rb26DETTTTT. nuff nuff 5 turbos for that a**!


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