1.8s needs more power

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ok heres the thing i have a 1.8s it has ok power but i want a sr20 engine and trany wap. has anyone done that. and how much am i looking at


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It's a matter of swapping a B15 SE crossmember (and all the other little mechanical bits), ECU, and wiring harness along with the engine/transmission, then you have emissions and ECU programming issues to deal with depending on where you are. It won't be terribly cheap, depending on which SR you swap in. My guess is $3k at least.

How much more power do you want? You could try intake/header/exhaust on your 1.8 first. Beyond that it'd probably be easier to sell the car and pick up something quicker from the factory.

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your right but im having trouble finding any thing but universal parts for it. i dont want universal. can you help

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just to let you know my dad has a 05 mustang gt its fast. i what to be able to beat him in a road race but he will get me in the strights i got him in the corners. i need the speed. how good is nismo race supention

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im saving for a race cluch and flywheel its only like $580 for the cluch set. i need it becouse i have all ready replaced the trany once and the top end once. the dealership did some mode to the car and **** it up. so i have no warenty any more i can do what i want.

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Unless you're putting down 200+hp, I don't see the point in anything but an OEM clutch. If it's not holding up, you're probably beating it to death. Maybe a Kevlar disc would be a reasonable upgrade, as that will grab and wear a little better.

Anyway, Hotshot used to make a QG intake. You could look around for a used one or maybe some company still has a few in stock. The NISMO intake will also work with a new MAF adapter you can get for not too much at Autozone.

The NISMO suspension is junk. B15 suspensions are discussed in this thread - zerothread/241329 - and yes, the suspension is the same for all Sentras 00-06 regardless of trim. In terms of strut/sway bars, NISMO is good, and I've heard good things about Eibach.

As for exhaust, there aren't many 1.8-specific ones. Any non-SE-R Sentra exhaust should fit your car because the hangers are in the same locations for the GXE, 1.8S, etc.

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i think that all my power is being lost in the trany becouse i have the nismo intake and magnaflow exaust but i can tell that the trany is the weekest linck in the car.

i hasve a friend that has eibach on his sentra and he loves it.

i am looking to get 250hp to the wheels some day im just trying to find out the best way

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i think that the only way to go is to get headers made.

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250hp isn't kidding around. That's turbo, period. QR, SR, QG, whatever, it needs a snail.

That said, I can tell you that there's only one QG18DE+T on earth that actually runs consistently, and it wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination.

Therefore, if you want 250, save up a bunch and swap or trade up for an 00-01 SE or 02-06 SE-R and boost it.

Secondly, I doubt you're "losing all that power" at the transmission. With intake and exhaust you're only putting out an extra 10hp at the crank on a cold day, so 8 at the wheels. The butt dyno can't even really feel that. All you're getting is a little better throttle response, and that's all you should expect. The car is geared for economy, so the extra ponies aren't showing. You can't change that without getting a shorter transmission, and that would be all sorts of custom fabrications and money.

The only header available is the Hotshot, and since the company was sold you're going to have to find a used one or some place with leftover stock 'til the new owner(s) get the factory going again. Getting one made custom would be expensive unless you know someone, and because the QG has 4 finicky O2 sensors, it can be tough to keep it OBDII legal. However, lots of people have used the HS header, so it's just a matter of looking up an FAQ/DIY.

Even then you're only going to have an extra 20hp or so at the crank. You'll feel that, but it won't be fast by any stretch of the imagination. A QG18 with I/H/E only begins to be nearly as quick as an SR-powered B15, which is still marginally slower than a Spec.

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I don't think the 1.8 is that bad. With intake and exhaust it's a lot better then stock imo. Granted mines 5spd so it's a little more peppy then automatic. With a few mods you can make them slightly quicker. I know people were talking about JWT making cams for it...but thats just a rumor I guess. Theres also a guy on the b15sentra.net that makes throttle body spacers which are good for a couple horses.

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damn i did not think about gearing of the trany. i might just save for aa better nissan i would like to find a late model s14 thats manual and cheep

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Good luck with that, most of them have been snapped up in the drifting craze.

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well what can i do to make my 1.8 have a fighting chance on the road

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Fighting chance?

I/H/E will get you to about as quick as a base SE-R, which would also keep up with any non-Si Civic, so merging into fast-moving traffic and such will be less hair raising.

I hope you don't intend on racing. First because it's illegal, and second because you're going to lose to most things.

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needtobefaster wrote:well what can i do to make my 1.8 have a fighting chance on the road
Turbo. or lots of NOS!!!!!!

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do you have any idea hoe hard it i to find a turbo kit for a 1.8 sentra

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what other engines have intercangable parts with an 06 1.8

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nametakennow wrote:That said, I can tell you that there's only one QG18DE+T on earth that actually runs consistently, and it wasn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination.
There are no 1.8 turbo kits.

I haven't heard of anything being compatible between the 1.8 and anything else. Anything that fits a 2000-2006 fits all of those years, but that's it.

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easiest way to make a 1.8s faster. sell it and buy an se-r or spec.

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needtobefaster wrote:do you have any idea hoe hard it i to find a turbo kit for a 1.8 sentra


http://www.turbochargedsentra.....html Turbo kit for the QG
nametakennow wrote:
There are no 1.8 turbo kits.
Yeah there is, just a little unknown and....
SpecVDan wrote:easiest way to make a 1.8s faster. sell it and buy an se-r or spec.

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The kit linked is no longer available for sale.

Still, that's the first one I've heard of. It's been awhile since I've looked around, though.

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Thats the only one I knew of at the time.

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Hey guys I was just messing around looking at stuff on the computer and I found this website. I drive a 2002 Nissan Sentra GXE, Yeah I know its crap. Lol. But, I drive it fast and want to make it faster. Its an auto to thats a down fall also. I was just wondering maybe if you guys had some tips and maybe some websites I can look at for parts.

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Welcome!

Check our sponsors for parts. Your dealer will have the NISMO intake.

http://www.nicoclub.com/addirectory.shtml

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So I hate to ask but whats NISMO stand for?

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had a 2000 GXE for 3 years and could never find n e thing worth a crap for it. i sold it and bought an S13. i would still like to have a B15 that i could work on though. My thought. trade it for an SE you can find 5speed SE's in pretty good shape w/ 5 speed for 5k and under all day long. then turbo it.

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NISsan MOtorsports international.

Listen to Nametakennow's advice.

a 1.8 can be fun with basic bolt-ons and suspension work but dont expect to be eating up Si's you may be able to hang with Stock TC's and Mazda 3's. Ive seen a few dyno sheets of QG's with I/H/E that put down roughly 110-115whp depending on sealevel humidity Etc. Also one thing to remember is Auto is more parasitic than Manual trannys.

Also just for clarification there is a difference between the SR20 (NA) and an Sr20DET im surprised no one saw fit to mention it, im sure alot of people here assumed SR20DET. but i dont want a new guy to go out and buy a plain jane SR20 thinking that its turbo. Just some clarification.

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Yeah good point about the SR20.

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+1

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i might just buy a 95 rx7. i know the #1` rotary mac in the usa. he always hase like 3 or 4 for sale. so now i need to find the money becouse i need to keep my car too. the great thing is that i have talked to this guy a few time and he told me 17 for a 95 and then he asked how much hore power i wanted ( i was thinking 350hp 400hp to start off)


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