Z32 project rescue (pic Heavy)

The Nissan 300ZX (Z32) general community discussion forum
User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

I actually had a really hard time finding anything for the S2. But from what ive read the only thing you would need to change is the o2 and knock wiring. Thats what I did, (spliced o2 wires together, to the one on the RB harness, and then the two knock wires on the RB harness to the one on the z32) runs fine, no CEL Yet.


User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Zkyline wrote:I actually had a really hard time finding anything for the S2. But from what ive read the only thing you would need to change is the o2 and knock wiring. Thats what I did, (spliced o2 wires together, to the one on the RB harness, and then the two knock wires on the RB harness to the one on the z32) runs fine, no CEL Yet.

Ok cause I Spliced the F2 (z32 dash harness plug) to the RB F3 (engine harness plug) and found all the matching wires. There was about 10 so far I hooked up out of the 13 on the F2 plug. Ill do a diagram of what I hooked up tonight. It would be nice for someone to double check what I did. Theres a big orange wire that says its for the air regulator/fuel pump relay but I already have one wire for a fuel pump relay and cant find anything on the rb harness F3 plug for that wire. :facepalm:

User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

I have 3 conflicting diagrams. One lists that as orange, another as lt. Green. And yet another that says pin 104: ? Lol. Did you do the fuel temp resistor mod? I didnt bother doing it.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Zkyline wrote:I have 3 conflicting diagrams. One lists that as orange, another as lt. Green. And yet another that says pin 104: ? Lol. Did you do the fuel temp resistor mod? I didnt bother doing it.
I saw it on the nistune mod instructions for when I get my type 2 board. In the ECU pin out for the RB to z32 ecu you take out pin 36 and put it into pin 33. I take it pin 33 is no longer needed? But in their instructions its only for series 2 rb25

heres the link for the PDF http://nistune.com/docs/Z32_ECU_Modific ... n%20V6.pdf :bigthumb:

User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

I tried several resistors (for different temps), didnt seem to make any difference. I imagine if you wanted it to read correctly, or at a "set" value for tuning reasons it may be important. I am going to run a APEXI SAFC piggyback fuel controller, once I put my Holset on, so I kinda started ignoring some of the Nistune steps. Lol

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Zkyline wrote:I tried several resistors (for different temps), didnt seem to make any difference. I imagine if you wanted it to read correctly, or at a "set" value for tuning reasons it may be important. I am going to run a APEXI SAFC piggyback fuel controller, once I put my Holset on, so I kinda started ignoring some of the Nistune steps. Lol

This is my wiring so far before I loom it. Once it's running I'll do it in case I made an oops lol :luck:
Yellow - z32 f2 plug
Pink- fuel pump relay wire (pink/black)? Conflicts with bigger Orange wire
Orange- iavc F7 fuel pump relay?
Green- rbf3 plug
Red- Bee*R rev limiter connection
Blue- Greddy profec Eo-1 electronic boost controller
Blue X- old auto computer plug from auto to manual swap


Image

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Hopefully picking up a welder this weekend with a spool gun. Then I need Tig attachments so I can start the exhaust and FMIC piping (Spool gun for aluminum)

User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

My wiring harness ended up more vg than RB. lol. One thing I ended up having to do, which is time consuming, but works, is using a power wire (or actual power probe if you have one) and then you can connect at the ecu plugs how you have them now, and check at the connectors in the compartment, and then you will be 100% sure of your wiring.

Also I have a GTR pan, and had to spoolgun the axle holes shut, lol, I know the struggle.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

So i was doing some digging online and CX racing offers a whole FMIC and rad setup Im thinking about getting

http://www.cxracing.com/mm5/merchant.mv ... Code=300ZX

Image

$698 plus $50 for shipping and its completely bolt in :bigthumb: no cutting of the rad support so I would have to weld mine back in Image

User avatar
NolimitZ32
Posts: 7042
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:07 am
Car: 91 AG2 2+0 TTMT swap/E39 BMW 540i6/E53 4.6is Dinan S3
Location: Houston, TX

Post

CX Racing doesn't have the best reputation for good fitment but other than that it looks like a pretty awesome deal. To make the system work efficiently you need to make sure there is a draw out for the Intercooler and the radiator which the car is not designed for, its something you'll have to do yourself, not too difficult if you are handy though, just something to think about.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

NolimitZ32 wrote:CX Racing doesn't have the best reputation for good fitment but other than that it looks like a pretty awesome deal. To make the system work efficiently you need to make sure there is a draw out for the Intercooler and the radiator which the car is not designed for, its something you'll have to do yourself, not too difficult if you are handy though, just something to think about.

So to make it work this is what Ive found online.

Image

Image
Image

Push or pull fan for the rad?

but instead of the vent being in the hood for the inter cooler have the vent on the panel between the headlights?
I cant find a vent panel I like tho :gotme

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

I think this bumper will allow the most airflow too


Image

User avatar
NolimitZ32
Posts: 7042
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:07 am
Car: 91 AG2 2+0 TTMT swap/E39 BMW 540i6/E53 4.6is Dinan S3
Location: Houston, TX

Post

The issue with having the vent in the nose panel may be that during high speed you'll be counteracting the flow. I can't say whether this is actually true or not since I've never seen this car in a wind tunnel especially with an aftermarket nose panel but its something to think about.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

NolimitZ32 wrote:The issue with having the vent in the nose panel may be that during high speed you'll be counteracting the flow. I can't say whether this is actually true or not since I've never seen this car in a wind tunnel especially with an aftermarket nose panel but its something to think about.



If you look at the picture that CX racing has there is a lot of room for the air to flow over the "top" part of the intercooler back toward the engine. It looks like it's about 3-4 inches below the hood latch and level with the front bumper support. I would hope any air coming in a vented nose panel would create a "pull" effect with the air coming up through the VMIC. That's my theory tho. I guess I'll find out haha

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Wind tunnel video


User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Well I found a video but its not loading here is the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuVf7cLCqiQ
Last edited by JayNoel on Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

you can see how much space there is in this picture for airflow


Image

User avatar
NolimitZ32
Posts: 7042
Joined: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:07 am
Car: 91 AG2 2+0 TTMT swap/E39 BMW 540i6/E53 4.6is Dinan S3
Location: Houston, TX

Post

That wind tunnel video does absolutely nothing, you need to be able to see how the airflow behaves at the nose panel with the v-mount setup in place and different types of nose panels. As for open flow into the engine bay, you aren't creating a pulling effect, you are causing a blockage because once the air enters through the v-mount it stagnates in the engine bay as there is nowhere for it to go. And all areas where the air could potentially exit from the engine bay are surrounded by fast moving airflow creating a high pressure and encapsulating the air within the engine bay. This is why all the properly built v-mount setups you see have a pretty outrageously shaped openings in the hood and ducting. What has to be done is an area of low pressure has to be created where you want the hot air from the inter-cooler to go, this will effectively pull the airflow through the inter-cooler increasing efficiency. Read through this to get a little better understanding http://ateupwithmotor.com/terms-technol ... od-scoops/ Now keep in mind, not doing any of this and just sticking the setup in as is wont have detrimental effects especially if you install fans., what I am talking about is achieving maximum efficiency of the system.

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

NolimitZ32 wrote:That wind tunnel video does absolutely nothing, you need to be able to see how the airflow behaves at the nose panel with the v-mount setup in place and different types of nose panels. As for open flow into the engine bay, you aren't creating a pulling effect, you are causing a blockage because once the air enters through the v-mount it stagnates in the engine bay as there is nowhere for it to go. And all areas where the air could potentially exit from the engine bay are surrounded by fast moving airflow creating a high pressure and encapsulating the air within the engine bay. This is why all the properly built v-mount setups you see have a pretty outrageously shaped openings in the hood and ducting. What has to be done is an area of low pressure has to be created where you want the hot air from the inter-cooler to go, this will effectively :rolleyes: pull the airflow through the inter-cooler increasing efficiency. Read through this to get a little better understanding http://ateupwithmotor.com/terms-technol ... od-scoops/ Now keep in mind, not doing any of this and just sticking the setup in as is wont have detrimental effects especially if you install fans., what I am talking about is achieving maximum efficiency of the system.

I found some more info on a Rx7 group http://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx- ... ic-820753/

They agree with what your saying too. Adding some more holes to my hood might work with the polished/rust look. I was thinking about putting some type of mesh or grill under the image on the hood. If I can get away with not venting the nose panel I'd like to do that. I like the one I have lol benefit would be the image is right where my turbo sits. Need some shielding for the master cyl too. The turbo sits pretty close

User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

Get a turbo blanket too. Should only be like $25

User avatar
Zkyline
Posts: 123
Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:57 pm
Car: 300zx. Rb25det swap

Post

You should see how I just did mine, the screamer pipe was melting my wiring, so I wrapped it all in reflective fiberglass insulation, and the pipe in header wrap. Also did the brake master cyl. Like you said. Hey, btw if you need anymore wiring help, PM me again, but ENABLE PMs! I couldnt respond lol

User avatar
JayNoel
Posts: 119
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:41 pm
Car: 90 RBZ32 rescue project
Location: Bethlehem pa

Post

Image

She's getting closer :bigthumb:

User avatar
DCaff300ZX
Posts: 4202
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:18 am
Car: .
1993 CRP TT- Modified
Location: Tacoma, Washington

Post

Haven't seen this in awhile, WOW.
This is getting pretty wild, and I like it... :chuckle:

Monkton
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:07 pm
Car: 1990 300zx

S2 RB25det swap
Location: Monkton MD

Post

Great build! I'm currently doing a S2 RB w/ the r33 5sp trans on a 1990 2 seater n/a 5sp car. I'm using a few of the cx racing parts and have been very satisfied at the quality for the price point. Lots of good info in this thread.

User avatar
raremotive
Posts: 3581
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:54 pm
Car: 04 Infiniti G35
Location: Stuck in the middle.

Post

Very nice progress.

Any plans to put in a air bleeding system for your RB? It's a pretty common mod to help burp air out the engine while it runs. Usually helps keeping the motor cooler if you don't have air pockets hanging out inside the head of the engine. :chuckle:

Image Image

V-mount systems are pretty cool in a sense. The trick is to direct the air more inline to the windshield of the car. This helps with the streamlining. If you don't this could potentially increase your CD essentially making your front end a plow. :chuckle:

Image


Return to “300ZX (Z32) General”