...You now your a honda owner when...

[not_a_porsche]

I'll say it again.... this talk of racing herritage is nonsense! All it does is give the idiots some bragging rights. It has NOTHING to do with what automaker has a better product. It's just like the redneck that will ONLY drive Chevy because Ricky Rudd drives one. As if to say that Chevy makes a better car because they won more Busch series or Winston cup races. WHO GIVES A FINGER FUC#ING s***!!!:rolleyes

Ricky Rudd drives Nascar, and we can't drive that. I didn't point out racing series that consisted of cars no one can drive.

Specifically I pointed to the SCCA and the Touring Car Championships. 2 venues that are based on production cars, especially all of the SCCA Stock classes. Those are the same cars that we drive.

What the real racers choose to compete with when given stock constrictions means a whole hell of a lot when it comes to the capabilities of the platform. The SCCA solo National Championships are highly competitive.

If the real racers don't race 240's.....

oh wait, the drifters do.

[MaineExport]

In the SCCA Street Touring class, where are the 240's. Oh I see, down there in 42nd place.

In fact, nearly as I can tell, that is the only 240 in all of the SCCA Stock and Street Prepared classes. Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder why?

It must be because Nissan is junk. You've convinced me, I'm dumping my POS 240 on some unsuspecting fool and I'm gonna pick up a SWEET civic.:rolleyes

[TrueSlide]

Ya, I agree with Maine, I guess them torsion bars on the older acuras and civics prove to be more agile then chessy independent rwd systems of the 240, I feel so cheated.

[MaineExport]

Ricky Rudd drives Nascar, and we can't drive that. I didn't point out racing series that consisted of cars no one can drive.

Specifically I pointed to the SCCA and the Touring Car Championships. 2 venues that are based on production cars, especially all of the SCCA Stock classes. Those are the same cars that we drive.

What the real racers choose to compete with when given stock constrictions means a whole hell of a lot when it comes to the capabilities of the platform. The SCCA solo National Championships are highly competitive.

If the real racers don't race 240's.....

oh wait, the drifters do.

Again.... I'm now convinced that the civic is a better car because people race them.

[MaineExport]

Specifically I pointed to the SCCA and the Touring Car Championships. 2 venues that are based on production cars, especially all of the SCCA Stock classes. Those are the same cars that we drive.

So, where can I pick up one of these bad-boys..... I can't wait to start racing. So I can be competitive in a stock civic, right?

[fenrisx]

I have a vid of a new Integra Type R racing a Silvia. I'm assuming it had he SR20det in it. The Integra Type R won by 2/10's of a second if I remember correctly. Then again from what I've gathered the Silvia wasn't designed for racing on a straight line, so I don't guess it matters. Most of us never say that all Hondas suck. When they do they're referring to the people who put body kits on them and big exhausts and stickers. They want a non-sports car to look sporty, and not worry about real performance, its their car..We can only look in disgust. Difference in taste is all this is, don't get your panties in a bunch.

*deposits his two cents* I think we have nothing better to do than argue. Most of us will be biased since we either own one of these cars, are would rather have one of these cars. Don't expect us to loathe over Honda's..this is a NICO forum.

The whole deal about not resorting to the big brother(skyline), well don't compare a 240sx to the NSX, which could possibly be deemed as one of your honda's big brother. :thinker

Will this thread ever die? I don't guess by me posting is helping any.

[TrueSlide]

You damn right fenrisx, this is a NICO forum, only thoughts are our own and we can freely share them with other NICO members that feel the same, all these ****ty honda performance specialists should take a note of that, they are not gonna persuade us that a civic is a track killer. Maybe I should race a Dr. Pepper bottle, they have alot more displacement then a damn civic. Civics = beater cars, and not a porsche seems to like comparing the 240 as deemed worthless and that drifters only drive them, well buddy sorry to take a sticker off your civic but the 240 is a awesome sports car with incredible handeling factory and beyond and it takes alot to drift. I guess you ****ty honda owners are jealous cause you guys don't have the skill/know how/ability or suspension to drift.

[not_a_porsche]

Well, the title of the thread says 'Honda' not 'ricer'.

Sure this is a NICO forum, but it is also a car enthusiast forum. If threads are going to be allowed to trash Honda's specifically, then as an Acura owner I am going to throw in my .02 cents.

It would seem worthwhile to me to ditch the term 'Honduh' in place of 'ricer'. The competency of the 240's, civic's and integra's is quite clear from a performance standpoint, it's the boneheads driving them that we all hate.

[TrueSlide]

The reason honda is so commonly referred to as rice is due to overwhelming amount of retarted modified civics and other models in general running around be retarted. Sure there are a few fast hondas out there, I can think of 2 decently fast hondas where I live, but that nowhere near compensates for the thousands of retardly modified hondas out there on the road. You are right it is mostly the driver's we hate, I cannot stand majority of the "know it all" honda drivers that try to tell me about coeffienct drag and how the wheelie bars and wings actually inprove performance time in the horribly aerodynamic setup of a honda, same goes with body kits, I would not want to be associated with a crowd of people that base their performance lives of superstreet and f&f, the knowledge honda owners are like a oasis in the desert, few and very far between.

[ArinX]

You damn right fenrisx, this is a NICO forum, only thoughts are our own and we can freely share them with other NICO members that feel the same, all these ****ty honda performance specialists should take a note of that, they are not gonna persuade us that a civic is a track killer. Maybe I should race a Dr. Pepper bottle, they have alot more displacement then a damn civic. Civics = beater cars, and not a porsche seems to like comparing the 240 as deemed worthless and that drifters only drive them, well buddy sorry to take a sticker off your civic but the 240 is a awesome sports car with incredible handeling factory and beyond and it takes alot to drift. I guess you ****ty honda owners are jealous cause you guys don't have the skill/know how/ability or suspension to drift.

haha again with the displacement crack. Whats ur Cars displacement?? 2.0?? 1.8? or that monster HP creating 2.4

[turboex]

You damn right fenrisx, this is a NICO forum, only thoughts are our own and we can freely share them with other NICO members that feel the same, all these ****ty honda performance specialists should take a note of that, they are not gonna persuade us that a civic is a track killer. Maybe I should race a Dr. Pepper bottle, they have alot more displacement then a damn civic. Civics = beater cars, and not a porsche seems to like comparing the 240 as deemed worthless and that drifters only drive them, well buddy sorry to take a sticker off your civic but the 240 is a awesome sports car with incredible handeling factory and beyond and it takes alot to drift. I guess you ****ty honda owners are jealous cause you guys don't have the skill/know how/ability or suspension to drift.

hey man some of the guys one this board own and race both. That maybe where some of you non-honda bashing coments come from. I drive both. I like both. I have seen civic that will out handle240s any day of the week and then distroy them in a drag race too. but i have also seen the tables turned. There both good cars. With the right owner

[APEXi240]

The bottom line is its ok to rag on a specific car, but very absurd and ignorant to rag on an entire make, if they contain some good cars (i.e. Hyundai, Kia, and Daewoo are ok to bash). But making fun of an entire company is just dumb.

[red240ne]

SUVs are ok to bash. they're worthless and just kill people.

[UncleBen]

ArinX, you've referred to the displacement in a 240 alot. wow, you know what size motor is has. great. 2.4 is a large 4-cylinder bud. maybe thats one reason a 240 don't sound like a bee in a can w/ an exhaust........we have big motor, not much power, alot of torque. we can deal w/ not much power, because the large torque#'s make up for that lost power. why do you think we can pull 3-5 car lengths on a civic/integra out of the hole on the 1/4? oh wait, you have VTEC so you might end up winning. vtec is ya'lls backbone. without it, your cars are nothing. at all. if nissan wanted to use a type of vtec on all their motors, they would. they do use variable valve timing on the s14 and s15 sr20's. i think those are about the only motors that i know of that have that system. and those motors will dam well kill any stock civic out there with VTEC

[ArinX]

ArinX, you've referred to the displacement in a 240 alot. wow, you know what size motor is has. great. 2.4 is a large 4-cylinder bud. maybe thats one reason a 240 don't sound like a bee in a can w/ an exhaust........we have big motor, not much power, alot of torque. we can deal w/ not much power, because the large torque#'s make up for that lost power. why do you think we can pull 3-5 car lengths on a civic/integra out of the hole on the 1/4? oh wait, you have VTEC so you might end up winning. vtec is ya'lls backbone. without it, your cars are nothing. at all. if nissan wanted to use a type of vtec on all their motors, they would. they do use variable valve timing on the s14 and s15 sr20's. i think those are about the only motors that i know of that have that system. and those motors will dam well kill any stock civic out there with VTEC

I know 2.4 is a pretty big four cylinder honda has one close to that its called the 2.2 prelude motor 190Hp 156Trq 10.0 Compression (USDM) stock is what it puts at the fly.This is just gonna keep goin so il just stop posting. Dont wanna piss aynone off.

Arin

[Cold_Zero]

haha again with the displacement crack. Whats ur Cars displacement?? 2.0?? 1.8? or that monster HP creating 2.4

2.0, 2.4 and 2.5 here. My wife's Altima makes more HP than the Chevy 3.4 (170) and the Honda 2.0 and 2.4 (160). But heck enough of this pi$$ match, I realize there is a lot more to making a car go (or go fast) than just raw hp and torque numbers. I would have a lot more respect for the Hondas in my area if they actually did more internal engine mods than body kits and intake/exhaust changes. But heck, my little 2.0 makes 227hp and I can run full boost/throttle in the snow! Can you?

[turboex]

I would have a lot more respect for the Hondas in my area if they actually did more internal engine mods than body kits and intake/exhaust changes.

Hum, I can honestly say I know alot of people with internal mods on a honda than i know with any on a 240. to tell you truth i dont enev know anyone with a sr20det in there 240. But im in north dakota. oh well.Hey to chance the subject a bit and maybe end this battle. does anyone know that the sr20det equiped 240sx runs in the 8th? thanks

[UncleBen]

Arin, yea i know about the H22. they are great motors, i love them. they actually have 195 or 200. 195 in TypeS form, 200 in TypeSH. my best friend had a 2000 Prelude type SH 5spd. it was amazing. the ATTS was AWESOME. that car handled about as well as my 240 (which has sportlines/tokico's). problem, was no torque. it wouldn't get off the line for s***. but once in 3rd gear, and up in the RPM's, wave byebye.

[Cold_Zero]

Hum, I can honestly say I know alot of people with internal mods on a honda than i know with any on a 240. to tell you truth i dont enev know anyone with a sr20det in there 240. But im in north dakota. oh well.

Turbo,What I said was a commentary on our local tuner scene. I have only seen on Teg that I really respect around here (Indianapolis).

[APEXi240]

I don't know but maybe that is most of the problem with the Honda bashing, some people simply don't have fast Hondas where they live. I see my fair share for rice, but I see TONS of quick hondas. My friend has an LS powered hatchback that pulls a 15 flat with just an exhaust. He beats on GS-Rs and Preludes like its his job. His is one of the slower cars in North Jersey....

Cop in my town - 12.5 civic, all motorCo-Worker - Low 12s, all motor (traction issues). On the bottle the car was dynoed at 335 at the wheels, quite a bit for a 2000 lb carCo-worker of my friend - 13.3 on the bottleRed Integra 12.6 turbo GS-RBlue Civic SI 13 flat turbo

There are many swapped cars in my town...but by me stolen motors are commonplace to find in cars, which is somewhat specific to Jersey (and I'm sure many other urban areas).

[SilviaLuvr]

aright lets try and solve this little joke that turned into an all out debait to see what brand of cars are better. yes i probably should of used rice instead of honda BUT like mentioned here time and time again a majority of the ricer are honda owners...

for starters it's ...you know you'er a Honda owner when... whoever desided to add thier $0.2 and make it 240sx vs. Honda well thats on you...anybody could of simple said the same thing on any other thread...$hit do you not think that the mustang sites and mitsu sites (just to name a few) don't talk about use like dogs all so...2nd we didn;t go to running off to our bigger brother as a trump card but since it was done then we will just compare a r34 skyline to a nsx both cars are highly respected BUT stock for stock im pretty sure a GT-R would edge a NSX http://www.supercars.net/Comp?...15-143rd yeah i seen the vid also the biggest buch of BS i ever seen. am i mad cause a 240sx lost to a type R no, Im just upset at the fact that it wasn't a V Spec 240 vs a Type R...did you not also notice the key word NEW Type R oh yeah not to mention the SCCA races civic's, mita's, and all the other cars that are in THAT class not to mention the KEY WORD PRODUCTION VEHICALS when the first time you ever seen an S15? civic's are still being made 240 have been discontinued b/c of finances...in JGTC where it counts or cars are ahead of yours on paper and on track...being ranked in 4th class isn't anything to be ashamed of... the h22 are great motors yes the b18c5 is also a great motor but not for torque...can a civic out handle a 240sx STOCK FOR STOCK no...just deal with it, why do you think every year on every new civic they try and up grade the suspension to compete with the compation...both cars has their up and downs. or cars aren't used for drag purposes thats why we go for suspension upgrades. ***holes who pull up next to us and jus revs on use all day make use try and do something that our cars aren't ment to do but can do when it comes down to it. however said that 240's are only used for drifting are just mad b/c deep donw inside they know that our cars will out handle theirs and they also new that they can;t drift...the reason why alot of the 240 owners don't know what an sr motor is b/c they never saw a properly done 240. the only thing that they see is rice, integra accords, and civic's.

my final statement HONDAS and NISSANS both have their ups and downs we appreciate you honda owners shareing you knowledge with us

[wingzero]

I know it started out as a joke, but damn don't you guys ever get tired of this?

And its not just because we're a bunch of "over-sensitive hondaboys". Its because we truly appericiate cars. If someone started a thread about how much subaru or toyota sucked etc.... I'm pretty sure everyone would step in to defend them.

[SilviaLuvr]

this is the first time i was involved in one of these things but it is getting :boring boring. every time we post something there is a honda owner taking offense i'll take offense too but would i go into a prodomently honda owner or toyota owned site and try to defend my pride hmmm...(this will be a very BOLD statement) but that is like me walking into a klan meeting and telling them "HEY, you need to stop hating on black people...we anin't do sh1t to yall...ya need to go on wit the bullsh1t!"

[wingzero]

Well then you know what we're talking about, just like the klan's really stupid ignorant inbred morons who refuse to let go of their worthless beliefs, then you see that its futile to hate hondas for stupid reasons, unless its just your opinion.

[SilviaLuvr]

its all opinion isn't? i mean its just a joke some people can take it and laugh and have fun while others take it, run wit it and turn it into a belief, get their selves offended and attack the comdiens...IT'S JUST COOOMDY. sh1t honda owners could of came in and added their sense of humors too, BUT i guess it was a catch 22 (what a great book) if i would of replaced 'honda' wit 'rice' somebody would of eventually slipped and said honda owner. if they admit to it or not someone would of done it

[Silviagirl79]

Honda owners need to stay off this here board...

[RYNO_s13]

Well, since aparently not one Honda owner on this board seems to get the spirit that this thread was started in, let me tell you a story. I'm sitting at a stop light in a bone stock 92 240 hatch. Right next to me is a yellow typeR, revving his engine like there's no tomorrow, and looking over at me every few times he jumps on the pedal. Light turns green, The Ryno drops the clutch and jumps on the gas. Fading out behind me I hear the squeal of tires. Looking in my rear view mirror, I see the very same yellow integra finally get moving, three, maybe four lengths back. No chance. By the time I pull through the next light, he's made progress, now he's only two lengths back. There's my turn, so I'm done playing. The end. Now, the moral of this story is very simple. Can a canary yellow TypeR take a 240 in a 1/4? Possibly. Can a 240 out handle an Integra? Definately. HOWEVER, put a bad driver in either car and the results are nowhere near as concrete. I don't care what the car is, the driver can make or break the race. FIN.

[ArinX]

Well, since aparently not one Honda owner on this board seems to get the spirit that this thread was started in, let me tell you a story. I'm sitting at a stop light in a bone stock 92 240 hatch. Right next to me is a yellow typeR, revving his engine like there's no tomorrow, and looking over at me every few times he jumps on the pedal. Light turns green, The Ryno drops the clutch and jumps on the gas. Fading out behind me I hear the squeal of tires. Looking in my rear view mirror, I see the very same yellow integra finally get moving, three, maybe four lengths back. No chance. By the time I pull through the next light, he's made progress, now he's only two lengths back. There's my turn, so I'm done playing. The end. Now, the moral of this story is very simple. Can a canary yellow TypeR take a 240 in a 1/4? Possibly. Can a 240 out handle an Integra? Definately. HOWEVER, put a bad driver in either car and the results are nowhere near as concrete. I don't care what the car is, the driver can make or break the race. FIN.

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[RYNO_s13]

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Just wondering if you actually READ the post before replying? Or were the RHFA directions just too complicated?

[ArinX]

Just wondering if you actually READ the post before replying? Or were the RHFA directions just too complicated?

Nope us honda drivers dont read. Were just dumb like that