****XTD PISSED ME OFF****

[sohcsleeper]

nah man i know what im doing it was a simple clutch job i changed slave and master cylinder i also put in the new fidanza flywheel when i did it then bled it out for like 5 hours cause i still got the dampner on my **** i think im gonna bypass it when i do the next clutch though

[jamied311]

Dont buy a clutch if the description mentions horsepower.

lol! its true

[starkos14]

carsponsorships works well if u show committment and have a good project car with potential

[skydragoness]

. Oh, and XTD clutches are made by Exedy

Where did you find this info? I looked all over Daikin(Exedy) USA website and found nothing about 'XTD' clutches.

[DjPantsSpecR]

this is merely an assumption that was made, and more than likely a poor one.

it is a well known fact that when you remove the xtd sticker from the pressure plate, it has the exedy logo stamped in. this says nothing for the clutch though. and im pretty sure xtd also claims to have koyo throw outs, which i hope is true

[driftjunke]

I think XTD uses EXEDY pressure plates, and possibly use their own discs. Your stage 2 have a full face, or was it a puck clutch? We've installed quite a few XTD clutches with no problems, and plenty abuse. We've also done tons of SPECs, and some people have issues with them. We use Competition Clutch now, install them on all of our swaps, and our drifts cars, awesome clutchs. Generally problems with clutchs come from improper break in or too much power for its capabilties, spend the money once and get you a good clutch, saves time and money in the long run. If you want to try a Comp Cltch, hit us up.

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[starkos14]

well, i just bought their 6 puck stage 3 clutch, ill let you know how that goes. ive heard good things. and their stage 2 is just a disk, not a 3 or 4 puck

[skydragoness]

Hmm.. well looking over Daikin(Exedy)'s official site it doesn't mention anything about some 'collaboration' with some company called XTD. Sounds like a shady company that can't make its own pressure plates and primarily sells on Ebay. I highly doubt Exedy would be going in on some joint venture that would dirty their name, when they already make reputable performance and OEM clutches; especially since they mention they don't recommend buying any clutch supposedly made by them on an auction website. In any case, not a good idea to buy a clutch that doesn't even have a official website/information.

[Chezedik]

I agree, or maybe they are reman, but for the money, I have heard a lot of good things.

[jgtc_s14]

its probably rebadge the exedy clutches badged as XTD from the warehouses of course they wouldnt admit it. A company makes parts for these manufacturers and they rebrand them as something else.

[dft24ds]

I have an XTD stage 3 and it's pretty nice.Grips like a mother ****** ...way nicer than stock I can actually spin 2nd gear for once. I did however take it to an extreme when breaking it in about 1000 miles of easy riding. then slowly SLOWLY pushing it harder and harder. Good replacement for 150 bucks if you ask me

[ORL240]

I have the act 6-puck unsprung that you show in the link sohcsleeper. That listing is just for the clutch disk and not the act pressure plate, which is probably more valuable than the disc. ACT pressure plates are the best. There is less to break on this clutch. I have no issues with engagement and you won't either if you have been driving a manual for at least 5 years and your transmission is in good shape. I love it and will never get a sprung clutch again. My s14 ka with just few bolt ons and 91 exhaust cams and lightened flywheel spins third pretty easy.

[Chezedik]

Okay, here is a noob question. What is the difference between a sprung and unsprung? I assume it is in the diaphragm, and that one does not have spring pressure on the fingers, so it may not want to chatter when it falls. But you know what they say about assuming. So anyone know for sure?

[DjPantsSpecR]

the springs are the springs on the hub. one part of the spring is connected ot the spline and the other side of the spring is connected to the friction surface. these "dampers" absorb the initial shock from the clutch and flywheel contacting. it will chatter a good amount if these springs do not exist simply because there is no where else for all that energy to go so it bounces off the flywheel rapidly...

diaphragm is strictly the pressure plate, and those springs are entirely different. the springs on the hub are physically springs.

i recently blew one of those springs out of the hub, makes it impossible to disengage the clutch. reasons for unsprung hubs are usually ultimate power and response (sometimes more like a lightswithc than a clutch), little less weight, and you wont blow a spring out and **** your whole setup

[whiterps13]

you get what you pay for. i know its alot to ask, but do you think you could maybe use a period? its annoying to read a paragraph post thats one sentance.

[ORL240]

I daily drive an act 6-puck unsprung and have to say agree w/ DjPantsSpecR, power delivery is immediate ( car is accelerating as soon as you drop the clutch ), clutch weighs less thus less rotating mass, and honestly clatter is only when shifting from 1st gear once car is rolling a unsprung clutch is better for a transmission than an sprung clutch.

[Chezedik]

That's all good info, and it makes sense. You are talking about the 'anti-reverb' springs in the center hub of my clutch, and I see what you mean. I assumed it meant that the diaphragm was somehow unsprung. But that would be dumb. Also, DJ I knew what you meant, periods or not.

[hnugen]

Gotta bring this back from the dead. I bought the XTD kit and it came with a nice beefy Exedy pressure plate and KOYO throw out bearing...Just setting it skrait How this clutch will hold 280 ft-lb, I will update in a month but from what the Honda people say, they hold up nice.

[574-240sx]

They use the Exedy pressure plate but use their own finger plates. There are a few companies that use Exedy pressure plates.

Also the ACT clutches use some really stuff pressure plates along with the fingers. Over time the whole ACT pressure plate will flex, I was at a local clutch shop not to long ago when they tested several clutches.

[chmercer]

just adding, i have an xtd 6 puck, works great. drifting clutch kick never slips.

[DjPantsSpecR]

also have the stage 3. never slips on clutch kicks as was just said. chirps third, engages ridiculous, but pedal effort is minimal.

i didn't break it in correctly, it was way too hard to resist. However, i rarely feather the clutch, so it'll be interesting to see how long this clutch lasts as a result

[Thrwnsprkz]

...w/e

I run their 6 puck, I like it... doesnt slipHad the flywheel prof. Resurfaced upon installation

so do 4 other friends o' mineIn a RB20 (beats the hell outta it) 1yr+SR20 (same punishment) going 6 mo.SR20 (daiy driver) for a year +1Jz (about to get it running)SR20 (about to be dropped in)

for $175 shipped to your door and my budgetIm happy, to each his own

[emperor_lunchbox]

resurrection time.

So is the XTD clutch worth the 150$ shippedIts stage 2. It looks good in the pic. I am about to do an auto to manual swap and I am not too sure about the condition of stock clutch.

[chmercer]

screw that get the stage 3

[emperor_lunchbox]

how hard is the engagement?I want a clutch that feels stock.

[1995240sxSE]

i just put it in yesterday and I dont know how the stock clutch disengages but the stage 3 is VERY easy. Smooth in and out, very little effort!

[whiterps13]

xtd clutches are bs i had a stage 2 racing clutch off ebay for like 6 months maybe 10k and i didnt even beat on it like that and its slippin already i am so pissed off those clutches suck an ill never buy another one it also didnt bite at all even when i first got it i dont know why but i know its slipping now even when im driving and try to punch it its rated for like way more hp and tq then my car puts out i dont know why it would slip after only 6 months any ideas?

i love how this is your question. can we get atleast one period in that rant?

[emperor_lunchbox]

hows the grip?I have read from other places similar claims to sochsleepers (horrible bite and weak grip force from installation.)

[2_slo]

Wrong screen name.

[240sHorTy]

I also have the XTD Stage 3, 6 puck, sprung hub. It has been in for close to 1000 miles. Clutch effort is easy, too easy if you ask me. I'd like a little more resistance in my pedal. It'd make me a bit more confident in the holding power. It has been alright so far. During or shortly after breakin, it would chatter on release between shifts on the throttle. I haven't noticed it lately. I am only running N/A at the moment.

I had also heard that they used Exedy pressure plates. There was only one stamped name on my clutch and it was on the pressure plate side on the painted portion by the fingers. Mine was manufactured by SECO. Maybe they use different suppliers for different clutches or maybe they just use more than one supplier. I'm not sure of the reputation of Seco. The clutch looks to be fairly solid. It uses dual springs in the hub.

It is hard to start easy without chattering on this clutch. To be expected though. Firmer starts grab and hold. That's about the summary of my impressions.

-Steve