****XTD PISSED ME OFF****

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Carl H
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i ran a xtd stage 3 (6puck) on my rb20 and it held 387whp no problem, and for the price i paid i couldnt complain.logged in atleast 20kmi on the damn thing and it never failed me.


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1995240sxSE
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i was having a prob with mine about 3 days after the clutch went in, I removed the damper and it has SO much better grip and a stronger feel! I love it when I work on my car and jusr remove useless crap!!!

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I run a Centerforce on my S13 and would recommend it to anyone. Its been perfect from day one. It's a stage 1 and I drive it hard all the time in SCCA and on the street. I did a hand resurface with light sandpaper and cleaner to make the flywheel shine and it worked perfect.

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Randomslider
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Hate to bring this tread back from the dead. But I am thinking on purchasing a xtd clutch and was wondering if I shold?

Thats a link to it. Tell me if it sounds good.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

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starkos14
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i have the xtd stage 3. its been over a year now and about 17k miles later, plus drifting... starting to lose confidence in it now that i have upped to a 300whp setup

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1995240sxSE
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about the xtd stage 3 6 puck is where the money is at!!! Works well on my ka-t no slip and a very light clutch. I am not sure how light the stocker is cause I put in xtd when I did the 5 speed swap but it seems light 2 me. I read that the pressure plate is made by excedy but wehn I took sticker off it says SECO on it! All in all work good and releases very good, but not as hard as my buddys act 2600 in his gsx. I have had mine 1 year and it is perfect condition still no slip!

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Randomslider
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Can anyone tell me if that clutch is desent to get? Its that or a oem autozone one.

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starkos14
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i would spend the extra money and get the stage 3... if your deciding to get just a stock replacement. at least go with an exedy replacement... its not that more expensive at all...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

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Miyabita_Y33
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I had XTD.. worst investment ever when out in 6000 miles sliped all day long. Pile od S***

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seems like it's the luck of the draw, or idiot are just installing their clutches.

i have the xtd, great for the money.

Doesn't slip, grabs hard as hell, and i havn't had problems.

It's a stage 2 btw

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S13 240SX
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ALL XTD CLUTCH KITS OFF EBAY SUCK! ITS NOT EBAY WHERE YOU GETTING RIPPED OFF.. ITS JUST PLAN AND SIMPLE XTD SUCKS!

NEVER BUY XTD STUFF AND i DON'T WANNA HEAR ONE PERSON TRY TO TELL ME XTD'S ARE SOMEWHAT GOOD CUZ THEY AREN'T.

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S13 240SX wrote:ALL XTD CLUTCH KITS OFF EBAY SUCK! ITS NOT EBAY WHERE YOU GETTING RIPPED OFF.. ITS JUST PLAN AND SIMPLE XTD SUCKS!

NEVER BUY XTD STUFF AND i DON'T WANNA HEAR ONE PERSON TRY TO TELL ME XTD'S ARE SOMEWHAT GOOD CUZ THEY AREN'T.
There are plenty of people telling you xtd is good. I've driven plenty of different clutches and the xtd is not much different.

It grabs, and doesn't slip.

Havn't had problems w/ mine. It their money, let them spend it how they want to.

Seems like u just have a stick in ur ***

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S13 240SX
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okay atown 240... think good all u want of xtd..

xtd sucks! its that simple... they do not bite, they have crappy pedal feel, and they last 3 to 6 months.. they suck.k

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im' not saying xtd is an awesome high quality product but it's good for the money.

Mine bites hard, feels awesome and has lasted more then 6 months

DjPantsSpecR
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guy, just because you screwed up your clutch install doesnt mean you should be talking all that jazz.....

i jsut pulled my clutch of the motor i spun a bearing in. 1 full year and 12,000 miles of hassle-free XTD-goodness. i'l post some pics of it as soon as i can get a camera.

However, 12,000 miles into it, and it doesnt even look bad.

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I think you are mistaken. XTD clutches are the same as any other automotive product. Every once in a while a defective one makes it to the shelves. I have had a Stage 2 XTD clutch in my S14 since May, no real problems with the clutch. I am willing to bet that most of the problems experienced with XTD are the same case as mine where the person installing the clutch messed up. The clutches are good, they sell for a good price and even if they last 1 year they are cheap enough to replace.

Also, as for the bite, if you are not careful you'll give yourself whiplash. This clutch has very good grip and tons of bite. Mine slips a little though, due to a botched installation.

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starkos14
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yeah, ive hear horror stories and good stories... just break them in right first before you beat on it. its been 15 months and 17k miles and i drift with the stage 3... the biting is lacking a little now with the upped hp... not really slipping though... for the money, its worth it

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i have the stage 3 as well, adn im not all about breaking in a copper ceramic clutch.

my break in consisted of not slipping it ever really... and thats good enough. this saw high rpms within 10 miles.

i know it sounds stupid, but the results speak for themself.

the majority of clutch ****ups are as a result of the installation. With the majority being people who either dont have the flywheel resurfaced, or they dont machine in the step that all nissan fly's have.

if you dont get the step machined in, your fly will more likely than not fail.

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S13 240SX
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by the way DjpantsSpecR i did not install my xtd clutch kit wrong!!! I been installing clutch kits for years and I acutally work for a transmission shop doing that kinda stuff all day long.. soo umm yeah.

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Just out of curiosity, have you adjusted your clutch pedal at all? I got lazy last year (didnt feel like wrestling with the transmission on the drive way) and trusted my car to a mechanic for the clutch install. New m/c and slave were installed and the guy told me to come back after my next oil change for adjustment. Sure enough a few weeks later I noticed a little slip on occasion. Took the car in, a few turns later, she was good as new. Exedy stock replacement clutch btw.

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Afliction523
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I have a XTD stage 3 also. It does bite hard. I like it, the only thing I would change is a firmer pressure plate. I like a firm clutch, mine feels a little soft, but not a soft as stock. I did my 5speed swap, and first clutch install myself. I have had no problems. I installed new oem master, and slave cylinder with a staneless line in my swap. I put a koyo throwout bearing in, and also the pilot bushing. The price can not be beat, and even if i had to change it I would not care. The transmission can be out within a hour, change the clutch, and put it back in within two-three. This is just my opinion. If it fails, its myfault for buying a "sHi&*y" clutch. I would reccomend it, but if you like a hard pedal be sure to get a different pressure plate.

Just my .02

DjPantsSpecR
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i just wanted to mkae sure that you machined the proper step into the flywheel before you installed it.

so um yeah, transmission shops do that all the time....

no need to get nasty, especially about a product that no one else seems to have any problems with recently

Lathayer
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ok so i bought a rps street performance clutch kit and i alrdy had a findanza lightweight flywheel in my 240. and i had cottman transmission put it in cuz i really needed my car. well ne ways after i got it back i realized that it started slippin alot. i rly dont have may powr upgrades i only have a straight air intake as a power upgrade and this clutch is slippin alot. so has ne one ever had an rps clutch and have it go out on them? please i need to know b4 i go and tell cottman that they are full of **** when it comes to the parts bein bad. cuz i bought the clutch from phase2 motor sports and flywheel from a canadian comapany whos name i cant remember but i cant tell u its legit.

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If you did not drop 40 bones on a new m/c and slave, hell even if you did, have the clutch pedal checked and/or ADJUSTED! The clutch is a wear item so you may be surprised at the difference a couple of turns will make. How does the pedal itself feel when depressing it? Is there any slop before engagement?

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Riubens
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Lathayer wrote:ok so i bought a rps street performance clutch kit and i alrdy had a findanza lightweight flywheel in my 240. and i had cottman transmission put it in cuz i really needed my car. well ne ways after i got it back i realized that it started slippin alot. i rly dont have may powr upgrades i only have a straight air intake as a power upgrade and this clutch is slippin alot. so has ne one ever had an rps clutch and have it go out on them? please i need to know b4 i go and tell cottman that they are full of **** when it comes to the parts bein bad. cuz i bought the clutch from phase2 motor sports and flywheel from a canadian comapany whos name i cant remember but i cant tell u its legit.
have you broke the clutch inn ???with at least 500 miles minimum and make sure the changed the master and slave cylinder and bleed it really good.

Lathayer
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ok what do u mean by machine the right step? if u talkin about resurfacing then ya its been done findanza flywheels can have inserts bought foir them u dont machine them. but wat i am thinkin is cuz i just got it back and it was goos for most of today. but then it started to slip again after they adjusted it. now seemings how yesterday it was burnin up and every thing do u think that the contacting plate the one that touches the flywheel got messed up?

Lathayer
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ya i bleed the clutch but does not breakin it inn cause it to slip alot like alomost so much to were the car wont move?

Lathayer
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oh and there is absolutly no play i press the pedal in like an inch and the clutch is fully disengaged.

Lathayer
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ok soo it looks like alls i needed to do was to adjust the pedal now it runs just fine bites good and i accel alot fater thanks guys.

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