xiaphin wrote:Heres my reasoning. You'll have to buy an elbow and downpipe both totalling $380-$400+ for quality pieces. Only turbo elbow that matches the quality of the PBM, that I've seen, is the Greddy $236 (Selling mine for $200 shipped UPS) It's 304SS, wastegate divider, slotted for T25/T28. Then u gotta buy a downpipe all stainless units are $200, not all have trans mount plus all aren't straight 80mm, all have neck. So why not spend the $380 or $400, depending on options for the PBM best on the market. I went this route even though I already had a Greddy Elbow.
As far as the PBM Cobra Flex Downpipe goes it is a work of art. Every weld is solid and both mounting flanges are thick. Pros - it is 304 Stainless Steel, has wastegate divider, has flex, is 80mm from flex back (no neck), has trans mount, has slotted hole so it can be used for either T25 or T28, price is right, can get extra O2 bung. Cons - none that I can think of. Other people that have installed it say it has more clearance than other downpipes.
Others thoughts??? OM3GA I know you'll chime in.
Sorry i am a bit late, First off this build is fantabulous.
I have been very busy with work lately and have not had enough time to come fondle the forum. Now that i feel horrible from having food poisoning or something and can't go to work tomorrow i am here.
The PBM Downpipe is a great piece, the fitment is dead on and the ground clearance is better than any other downpipe i have seen. The flex section is genius, it is all about the vertical flex point. Sure the horizontal flex will do something(decrease ground clearance even further) but not if you hit the bend of the downpipe which happens fairly often if your car is a decent height. (Unless you are a master pro at pulling out which i know a lot of us are)
One thing i noticed about this downpipe is the tripod transmission attachment brace unit. Very strong and awesome, the only thing that dissapointed me was alright i installed the oem bracket and insulator bushing from my transmission mount to the downpipe bracket, i had it set up perfectly so the whole downpipe was parallel with the frame rail; you could not see it looking from the side underneath! Then when i installed the rest of my exhaust system awwwhhhh it got saggy this is caused only by the stock rubber bushing. I have a brand new one and i bought another brand new one as a spare but thought about having someone replicate it out of polyurethane.(First i thought to do it out of aluminum but that would be too bad a** and probably destroy everything since the vibrations in the exhaust from the tones would most likely shear the tripod brace right off)
Anyways, you go and buy any elbow and downpipe combo and spend maybe a little more than the PBM and you end up with less ground clearance, an extra gasket to worry about and no flex section. PBM spent i believe a full year or two years developing this sexy snake and it is definitely a great piece.
Keep up the great work with your build, i will definitely be lerking around. I just ordered some more parts for my car as well so stay tuned.
