Winter Tire

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koolyce
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Ok, I know we are in the summer, it is 30C outside and winter is far from now, but I start looking for my winter choice.

I'm actually on 17", but I will get steel rims in 16": lower cost.

My dealer said that the aftermarket rim are not good as the one sale by Nissan, it is true? They said the rim can toutch the brake.

Which brand? In Quebec, we have a magazine called: Protégez-vous and they test a lot of tire and the top 3 is: Blizzak (but don't remember the kind), the Toyo Observe and the Yokohama Geolandari/t.

There is my situation. I live in town (Montreal) but every week-end, I go up north, this mean more snow and more hills.

I don't want stud tires, too noisy, but I want a good tire for ice and snow and it will be good for 4 winters. Before my Rogue, I got a Subaru and goodyear ultragrip ice and I was totally satisfied. After 3 winters, my tires was still good for 2 years minimum.

What do you recommand? I really love how the Yokohama is designed, but I can't find the thread wear for those tires, so I don't know which one will used faster.

Thanks for your help.


Pescakl1
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koolyce wrote:Ok, I know we are in the summer, it is 30C outside and winter is far from now, but I start looking for my winter choice.

I'm actually on 17", but I will get steel rims in 16": lower cost.

My dealer said that the aftermarket rim are not good as the one sale by Nissan, it is true? They said the rim can toutch the brake.
16", good choice. That is what I ask the dealer to give me for free when I bought the car.For the dealer BS, it is what I wrote: BS.A steel rim is a steel rim. As long as you have the right characteristic (bolt pattern and offset), everything will be OK.
koolyce wrote:Which brand? In Quebec, we have a magazine called: Protégez-vous and they test a lot of tire and the top 3 is: Blizzak (but don't remember the kind), the Toyo Observe and the Yokohama Geolandari/t.

There is my situation. I live in town (Montreal) but every week-end, I go up north, this mean more snow and more hills.

I don't want stud tires, too noisy, but I want a good tire for ice and snow and it will be good for 4 winters. Before my Rogue, I got a Subaru and goodyear ultragrip ice and I was totally satisfied. After 3 winters, my tires was still good for 2 years minimum.

What do you recommand? I really love how the Yokohama is designed, but I can't find the thread wear for those tires, so I don't know which one will used faster.

Thanks for your help.
Don't forget that now, we have to have these tires on even if it is nice weather and dry roads.That is why I chose the michelin X-Ice2, as they are the best on dry and cold roads,... but I don't go up north every weekend.

So you should go either with the Bridgestone Blizzak DMZ3 or the Yokohama Geolander IT-S GE-072.Price wise, the Blizzak is more expensive, but not by that much.For snow, the Blizzak is slighty better than the Yoko.On dry roads, the Yoko is slighty better than the Blizzak.

On my wife car, we have the Blizzak (the WS 50) and they are quite nice.

I have two PDFs about the winter tires reviews from last year, I can PM to you if you want to do some readings (the above is the transduction of them).

Hope this helps.

koolyce
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Thanks for reply. Sound weird, the DMZ-3 is not available in 215/70/R16 on the website of bridgestone...


Chas1
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Toyo's. The Toyos are a great tire. They are soft much like a Nokian and get squishy on warm days though. I prefer them as they can be had for a good price and are very well made. I'm not saying the others are not good. Ive owned the Original Michelen Alpins and they were terrible. Ive owned Nokian Hak's 1 and they were great. So, for comparison, the Toyo's are a true snow tire (not an ice / comprimise) So, if you have 20 degree inclines that are not plowed (like my driveway) you got no problems.

philipa_240sx
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IMHO, Nokian Hakkapeliitta's are one of the best snow/winter tires available. But then again I am biased having owned 3 sets of them!

I've also heard good reviews about the Yok's and Toyos.

As for rims, go and find the 16" rims from an '02 and up Altima. They are a nearly perfect fit and there are so many out there, they should be pretty cheap. I use the Altima rims on my Rogue, no problems. I got them used on Kijiji... a steal at $100 for all 4!

There is a post on winter tires in the Official Rogue FAQ, read it here:

zerothread/321013

byrdz1
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What do you do about the tpms? (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) when you change tires? Do you let it scream through the winter? Does anyone know what that does to our warrenty? I am a little chicken because I know in the Subaru if something is up with the tpms they won't warrenty the cvt transmission. Ideas?

philipa_240sx
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byrdz1 wrote:What do you do about the tpms? (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) when you change tires? Do you let it scream through the winter?
Read the TPMS FAQ here: zerothread/330539

Lots of good information, but here it is in a nutshell:

1) You can run wheels without TPMS sensors without any adverse effects. It will not void your warranty.

2) The TPMS warning light will come on. There is no way to disable it, short of covering the light with a piece of electrical tape.

3) The TPMS warning light will clear as soon as you put the stock wheels back on. Many have already tested this, myself included. You do not need to have the warning light cleared by the dealer, etc.

koolyce
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Finally, I did my order this morning.

I got a 100$ pre order and also the 2008 price.

Nokian Hakkapelitta 5 SUV in 215/70R16 with steel origin rims for 1150$ can tx in.

ahhbeebee
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If you don't mind me asking, where did you get them from?

Rims from the same source?

koolyce
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I get it from Pneu Touchette in Montreal.

The rim are also from them and they are classified as origin.

I don't know if it is a good deal or not, but what I'm sure, if it sounds good because Costco offer me the Michelin Latitude X-ice for 1100$ (rims included).

Also, Nokian will probably provide a postal rebate in october, so it will be less expensive.

philipa_240sx
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koolyce wrote:Nokian Hakkapelitta 5 SUV
OOoooo I'm envious! I'm still kicking myself for getting the Hankook iPike's last year instead of the Nokian's.

koolyce
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Well, I'm waiting for snow now to get fun and hope my nokian will be perfect. My dad got those tires on his Audi and everything work good, so I think it will be the same for me


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