Why do mustangs hate us?

[BlackSmoke]

How about that ZR1 they are fixing to unleash. Alot of ponies in that hood.

[enjoichris01]

I must agree.. our cars do sound better, i believe most of the people driving the mustang seem to think loud is fast. IDK how many mustangs have pulled up next to me at a light and mash on it once the light turns green, and a tremendous noise comes from their vehicle yet its barely moving.. who knows to each their own

[rmezz13]

yeah looking at no less then $100,000 for the new ZR1..... the #1 has sold for $1,000,000 already. Some guys who has the #1 of a lot of vettes i guess.....

Carbon cerimic pressed rotors ($$$$$$$) eaton style SC with almost as much efficiency as a turbo...... Car is nasty. Its about time chevy put something into that beast of a car with all the potential for more. They could do even more than that, and who cares if its affordable, it shouldn't be!

[BlackSmoke]

you said it that car is nasty. I like nasty. I saw a test drive on tv and I am seriously thinking of a used one after it comes out, maybe for about $85 or $90k. They claimed in the interview that it could be a daily driver. I want to test drive one so bad.

[rmezz13]

you probably have to present your deed to your house, and your first borns birth certificate, then give them your left nut..... its that hard to test drive a C6 here!.... They have to believe you are going to buy one here. Anyway, i would rather have the GTR any day of the week. Cheaper price and better performance i bet. AWD FTW

[BlackSmoke]

Oh let me clarify I will be thinking hard on the GT-R. But down hear these idiots let you test drive anything. As far as the ZR1 vettte I would only do it on a used with low miles which I probably wont find here but the GT-R I can just go to NISSAN and order. And yes the performance is there on the GT-R. What about that Audi R8. Sweet but a $100k also

[KakkoiiRacing]

except the cobra.... don't think a stock Z can beat a cobra. Same displacement but a completely different motor at the same time. DOHC is the main thing that makes them what they are, but they are something special - hand made. Thats the non supercharged ones..... the SC will def. blow us away - but with N2O i dunno! we will see!

i've taken about...6 z's in my cobra (01 DOHC N/A)they were anything from bone stock to s/cBUT from my experience i can say that the bone stock one was quicker bc they guy could drive.you get these kids riding in daddy's car for the night and the SOB almost blew it up. anyway, with the stuff about mustang guys not appreciating a beautiful car such as the z .i work for a nissan dealership and would take a new altima over my car haha.mine may be faster, but the nissans are so freaking easy and fun to drive, and the looks you get in the z are astounding.i get stares in my cobra all the time, but the z is one where the girls will lean out the window to wave lol. so i don't think the mustang guys hate you, i think that the amount of torque (even in the gt) makes the car feel faster than it is so when they get beat they're bitter.i for one, LOVE the z's and am considering trading my car for one to take to college.you can't beat the performance/mileage/warranty that a new one has to offer at that price!

[rawmeat]

mustang people are idiots, i should know, i was one lol jk i know a lot of people who drive mustangs that are pricks, i also know a lot of people who drive mustangs that are cool so i've come to the conclusion that there are a ton of pricks on the world and half drive mustangs and half drive all the other cars and trucks that are made.

[KakkoiiRacing]

i think everyone in this thread needs to start looking a little outside of "my z is sooooo much better than a mustang."you have very little (next to no) facts and your opinions are more than a little biased.cobra's are stock. end of story.yes, they do get sent to SVT but the only thing SVT does is change the suspension parts, put on the badges and drop in the engine after it's built.it comes FROM FORD and has the SAME warranty as a regular mustang.also, the mustangs have different TRIM levels, such as GT or SVT Cobra.

how is that any different from your guys "touring/track/etc" z models???

i've seen some seriously riced out z's before so don't get me started there.

this thread is bad, plain and simple.you're generalizing people by the type of car they drive.

you see someone in a mustang and assume they hate you and that they're pricks.ever think that your assumptions might be why they don't like you??

make fun of mustangs, w/e. but with all the "CFing" this and that, ask yourself who the real "ricers" are.

[rmezz13]

I was refering to adding the SC to the newer SVT's.... for the record. I created this thread because of all the threads i've seen on the net from different mustang forums of them guys just hating on Z's badly and for no particular reason. Their threads were very ignorant, so whats wrong with ours? Maybe a little bias but not bashing them like they bash our cars and our drivers...... I own a 99 Mustang GT, and its a sled that has equal mods to my Z and my Z smokes it! So my opinions on the cars are based fully on experience.... I don't dislike my mustang either, its an awesome looking and aggressive sounding car, but i do admit i favor the Z quite a bit, probably because the excellent handling and the impressive power coming out of that 3.5 liter V6. Just more fun to drive all around. Z makes me smile, the mustang is..... well everyone has mustangs

Carbon Fiber = rice? since when? if thats so then there are a crap load of super cars that are riced out including the new coming ZR1 Corvette.

[Sentientbydesign]

i think everyone in this thread needs to start looking a little outside of "my z is sooooo much better than a mustang."you have very little (next to no) facts and your opinions are more than a little biased.cobra's are stock. end of story.yes, they do get sent to SVT but the only thing SVT does is change the suspension parts, put on the badges and drop in the engine after it's built.it comes FROM FORD and has the SAME warranty as a regular mustang.also, the mustangs have different TRIM levels, such as GT or SVT Cobra.

how is that any different from your guys "touring/track/etc" z models???

i've seen some seriously riced out z's before so don't get me started there.

this thread is bad, plain and simple.you're generalizing people by the type of car they drive.

you see someone in a mustang and assume they hate you and that they're pricks.ever think that your assumptions might be why they don't like you??

make fun of mustangs, w/e. but with all the "CFing" this and that, ask yourself who the real "ricers" are.

Regardless of whether the Cobra is stock or not, Ford still offers a POS version of the Mustang which muddies it's reputation. Also, what's with SOHC engines? WHY? I don't keep up on their new engines, so don't get your panties in a bunch if all of the new engines are DOHC.

I don't think all Mustang owners are pricks, but I do think that most who care believe their cars are better than ours. And frankly, that's a load of that they need to take to the toilet.

I can take my G to a performance company and build the hell out of it too...who cares. The fact of the matter is, the base is still higher quality and more efficient than the Mustang.

Also, if I compare all of the over confident Mustang drivers versus G/Z drivers, I've seen more Mustang drivers.

Not to cause any hatred, but I have seen quite a few Z drivers who think they are hot stuff and come across as cocky, not experienced. Less for the Gs mainly because the driver cross section is much more diverse (must be the rear seats )

CF is only rice on econoboxes which weren't meant to be sporty in the first place, or CF overlays CF has a purpose and it's not to look pretty.

Unless I go Ivory Pearl with my coupe, I'll mostly likely be painting the CF.

[rmezz13]

I agree with some of the Z drivers being cocky, their are some ego's on here and the worst ones don't have a Z yet, but i understand their excitement..... but nonetheless, i agree with you 100% sentientbydesign.

[R350Zz33]

wow carbon fiber rice wtf no real ricer could aford (<-ford ) carbon fiber its not rice aslong as it improves the car and is functunal ex: fart can muffler on a civic= rice true dual on a z= not rice. fake bov on any car = rice real turbo not rice. body kit that is huge and wide touches ground when u hit a bump= rice any body kit that lightens car and improves downforce and areo not rice

[D_roc]

if its that mustangs hate us because they think we do weird stuff to OUR cars...i beg to fcuking differ.

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wow looks like a Mustnag and a BMW had a retarded kid, bet that thig is full of those cheap junk form ebay

[z33nismo12]

Mustangs are like butt holes, everyone has one..... They are poppa's joules

[R350Zz33]

i herd they might bring back the 4cyl mustang from the 80's

[KakkoiiRacing]

wow carbon fiber rice wtf no real ricer could aford (<-ford ) carbon fiber its not rice aslong as it improves the car and is functunal ex: fart can muffler on a civic= rice true dual on a z= not rice. fake bov on any car = rice real turbo not rice. body kit that is huge and wide touches ground when u hit a bump= rice any body kit that lightens car and improves downforce and areo not rice

really?? bc i see a lot of ricers running around with mommy and daddy's debit card buying parts for their cars. just bc someone has bad taste doesn't mean they don't have money.and i said there was a lot of talk of CF, not that every application for it was rice. all this stuff on the interior is for apperance, not function.and btw, a 5psi turbo on a 4 cylinder doesn't mean it's not rice. i'm not saying that everything on there was rice, it's just a matter of style.all this stuff people do to modify their cars (eg. body kits, wheels, carbon fiber, wings, exhaust) can be either ricey or eloquent, it all depends on how it's done.you simply can't judge an entire group of people together based on anything, that's just the immature high school bs that only the popular kids like.

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all i'm asking is for people to be a little more considerate especially when there are people out there that rely on these threads for info.no, not all fords are garbage.not every gm or domestic for that matter is rubbish.and then again, not every nissan or 350z is impervious.you all can't just sit around and bash people all day.help them out and point them in a better direction.

[Sentientbydesign]

really?? bc i see a lot of ricers running around with mommy and daddy's debit card buying parts for their cars. just bc someone has bad taste doesn't mean they don't have money.and i said there was a lot of talk of CF, not that every application for it was rice. all this stuff on the interior is for apperance, not function.and btw, a 5psi turbo on a 4 cylinder doesn't mean it's not rice. i'm not saying that everything on there was rice, it's just a matter of style.all this stuff people do to modify their cars (eg. body kits, wheels, carbon fiber, wings, exhaust) can be either ricey or eloquent, it all depends on how it's done.you simply can't judge an entire group of people together based on anything, that's just the immature high school bs that only the popular kids like.if you want to talk cars, lets talk.

all i'm asking is for people to be a little more considerate especially when there are people out there that rely on these threads for info.no, not all fords are garbage.not every gm or domestic for that matter is rubbish.and then again, not every nissan or 350z is impervious.you all can't just sit around and bash people all day.help them out and point them in a better direction.

Eloquent when describing a mods?

Also, punctuation and capitalization go very very very far.

My family has owned Datsuns, Nissans, and Infinitis since before I was born. I can't think of a time that one of them let us down and I'm speaking of 10+ vehicles.

We have also had a couple of fords...with issues. One of them barely made it to it's pay off date. I know of friends of the family who had 2 fords...both had issues.

Are all Fords horrible? No. Do they build as high of quality as Nissan or Toyota?

As for Rice vs. Elegant (more applicable word). It's all a matter of opinion. Most Mustangs will come across as rice if they start doing cosmetic mods. Why? I don't know. It could be that the companies who make body kits for Mustangs have no taste. Could be that the owners don't have any taste when modding.

In any event. This thread is getting boring.

[rmezz13]

Nothing against fords or mustangs, like i said this thread was made in response to what the Ford guys say about us, and perceive us as. To them anything with less than 8 cylinders is RICE!...... Heres some rice for ya, Lotus Exige S - 1.9L I4 Toyota GTS mid engine with a SC pushing low boost (i think about 7lbs) which i am sure classifies in your 4 banger with low boost is still rice, and has 220 HP. Sounds pretty riced out right(?), how about a 0-60 in 4.1 seconds! Thats faster than the 7.0L V8 C6 ZO6 (0-60 4.7sec)..... That Rice tastes good to me, oh yeah and it corners better than anything under super car costs!..... RICE FTW

[KakkoiiRacing]

Eloquent when describing a mods?

Also, punctuation and capitalization go very very very far.

My family has owned Datsuns, Nissans, and Infinitis since before I was born. I can't think of a time that one of them let us down and I'm speaking of 10+ vehicles.

We have also had a couple of fords...with issues. One of them barely made it to it's pay off date. I know of friends of the family who had 2 fords...both had issues.

Are all Fords horrible? No. Do they build as high of quality as Nissan or Toyota?

As for Rice vs. Elegant (more applicable word). It's all a matter of opinion. Most Mustangs will come across as rice if they start doing cosmetic mods. Why? I don't know. It could be that the companies who make body kits for Mustangs have no taste. Could be that the owners don't have any taste when modding.

In any event. This thread is getting boring.

okay, i can see your point there. but as far as my punctuation and capitalization goes, i'm on a slow computer that doesn't work as fast as i can type so i don't even bother having to backspace every three seconds.and i did mean eloquent because if a car is done correctly, it's a very moving feeling that makes me (at least) very happy.

i've known people over the years who've owned all sorts of cars like nissans, toyotas, and hondas who have had sh*t break left and right. not just older cars or high mileage cars.and my family has had nothing but fords for the past 20+ years with NO problems whatsoever (barring the few recalls along the way).

IMO, rice vs. elegant (if that's what you want to call it) is a matter of taste.i find some things to be very attractive where other people are in disgust.i don't mean to sound like i'm bashing anything on here, but bashing mustangs because of a few d!cks out there is like saying every person with brown hair likes to kick kittens if you knew even 1 person like that.

[R350Zz33]

i have brown hair and i dont kick kittens..........anymore.....jk so kakkoiiracing what kind of nissan or inifiniti due u own?

[KakkoiiRacing]

i currently don't own a nissan. i am, however, looking into buying either a 350z, G35 Coupe, or built 240sx.

I love my cobra, but I need something with fewer miles to last me all four years of college and then some. gas mileage isn't exactly the best either

[rmezz13]

If you don't plan to mod it extremely, or even track it regularly, and you want to drive it daily - G35 coupe FTW. More room, more luxury, same motor - endless possibilities ( i mean it is a Nissan).

[KakkoiiRacing]

lol, that is true.But i gotta say that i'll be tracking it on the weekends occasionally and luxary/rear seats don't matter much.i'm more of a no frills guy, and the 350z is gonna run a wee bit cheaper.i also love the lines of the 350 so i'm leaning more towards that.

anyway, i don't mean to get nasty on here, i just don't like the attitude of gross generalizations and close-mindedness. i hope we're all cool

[KrazyKyle]

They are just as many a holes driving 350s as there are Mustangs. Just take a look at My350z.com. I think the hostility all goes back to the whole Imports vs. Domestic BS. Some kid's dad grew up driving Mustangs, because his dad had a Mustang and he hated Japanese cars. Most people didn't want anything to do with Japanese cars when they first started making appearances in the U.S. So the hostility just gets passed on from generation to generation. Grandpa tells father that Japanese cars are un-american sissy cars, father says the same to his son when he buys his 16 year old a used GT. Son goes out and acts like a D bag.

However the same goes for imports. I grew up believing that domestic cars were inferior products. Which they are technologically inferior, not as much so now, but they were back in the day. My dad grew up a Chevy guy, I was taught to hate Fords. I know just about all the F.O.R.D. jokes. Found on road dead, fix or repair daily, and so on, and so on. When my dad started working at Nissan and started driving Nissans, then I started working at Nissan. Thats when everything changed.

The Import vs. Domestic thing will never change, there will always be hostility.

[Burtonboarder950]

speaking of jokes that make fun of cars...if nismo = nissan motors, what is honda motors called? I'm sure some1 will get it

[KrazyKyle]

speaking of jokes that make fun of cars...if nismo = nissan motors, what is honda motors called? I'm sure some1 will get it

Lol. Thats a good one. My buddy has a T-shirt with that on it. Lol

[R350Zz33]

speaking of jokes that make fun of cars...if nismo = nissan motors, what is honda motors called? I'm sure some1 will get it

i believe the answer is h0m0

[bmike818]

[rmezz13]

speaking of jokes that make fun of cars...if nismo = nissan motors, what is honda motors called? I'm sure some1 will get it

you just made my day!.... i'm gonna play with this one for awhile !!! LOL