Whats your favorite motorcycles

[Mr1der]

wow, it's only 3k new?

I kinda want a dual purpose to learn on, so's I can have fewer problems when I take it off the road on accident:D

[SmithSR]

World SuperBike is on SPEED Channet right now! lust!

[Megaseth]

i wouldnt mind having a small cruiser or something to start on. and yeah, i agree with not going with a 600cc bike as the first. i had a friend who had never ridden a bike before and wanted to get a Gixxer 1000 for his first bike. i acutally laughed at him and said "you'll kill yourself". i might look for a sport touring or something less powerful to start with, or get a 600cc bike and remove two of the spark plugs

[Looneybomber]

J-Spec. There is a reason why the 250 hasnt been changed...Its not a competative bike. Look at the 600's and 1000's. A company will change their bike every 2 years to stay competative in the race class. For example the 600's of today make about the same HP as the 1000's of 10 years ago. These superstock and supersport bikes r made for racing. Why else does the ZX-10r make 172RWHP with a Muzzy slipon. Thats like u SR20 boys laying down almost 350hp without a turbo!That being said the average life of a "crotch rocket" from the day its bought to the day its deemed totalled by the insurance company is 6 months. Thats why u pay ungodly amounts of insurance. I myself pay almost 800/year full coverage on my R1, and that aint bad!So my favorite bike for looks would be the R1, My favorite for a racetrack would be the zx-10r

Jspec, im not flamming at all. I agree with ya on getting that 250. Its not a good idea to start out with a bike that will run a quarter in 10 seconds. Plus u see these "blank's" (insert word JSpec is looking for) start off on their brand new gixxer750's wearing a t-shirt and shorts, pulling 2nd gear standups, lane splitting down rush hour, thinking to yourself "this kids guna die befor he sees 19". I dont think 600's or 1000's should be sold to kids below 21, and even some 21-25 y/o's shouldnt have any

[JESTER]

Cant remember what my insurance was. I know what it is now, after two totalled bikes that the insurance company knows about, and one they dont. $110 a month on my 97 Tacoma 4x4. Of course that isn't but sixs points. Not to ungodly for a 27 year old.

Organ Donors........... But that is anybody that rides, not just sport bike riders now days.

[Onizuka]

J-Spec. There is a reason why the 250 hasnt been changed...Its not a competative bike. Look at the 600's and 1000's. A company will change their bike every 2 years to stay competative in the race class. For example the 600's of today make about the same HP as the 1000's of 10 years ago. These superstock and supersport bikes r made for racing. Why else does the ZX-10r make 172RWHP with a Muzzy slipon. Thats like u SR20 boys laying down almost 350hp without a turbo!That being said the average life of a "crotch rocket" from the day its bought to the day its deemed totalled by the insurance company is 6 months. Thats why u pay ungodly amounts of insurance. I myself pay almost 800/year full coverage on my R1, and that aint bad!So my favorite bike for looks would be the R1, My favorite for a racetrack would be the zx-10r

Jspec, im not flamming at all. I agree with ya on getting that 250. Its not a good idea to start out with a bike that will run a quarter in 10 seconds. Plus u see these "blank's" (insert word JSpec is looking for) start off on their brand new gixxer750's wearing a t-shirt and shorts, pulling 2nd gear standups, lane splitting down rush hour, thinking to yourself "this kids guna die befor he sees 19". I dont think 600's or 1000's should be sold to kids below 21, and even some 21-25 y/o's shouldnt have any

:bowdown

I totally agree with you.

Im definatly not saying I hate sport bikes, because I LOVE sport bikes. I would love to have an R6 or a FZ6 right now, but i know it would be the wrong decision for me.

That said, here is a sweet picture of an R1 :ylsuper

[Looneybomber]

*drool* I love that new R1, 40º forward engine tilt, Frame over the engine instead of around to narrow it up a bit. 320mm (12.6") rotors in the front, 12.4:1 compression, Bore/stroke 77 x 53.6mm.Too bad its not red though...Love that colorBTW 106mph in 1st gear @ redline isnt so bad either C0CKPIT view

[Onizuka]

Mmm, bikes that can break every speed limit in the united states in first gear, sounds like it might just be fast

Heres a cool video of the Kawasaki Z1000

http://www.kawasaki.com/videos...e.wmv

And the Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R

http://www.kawasaki.com/videos...e.wmv

[Mr1der]

R1 is teh sex!

fear I'd look kinda funny on one being 6'3" and around 300 though

need me a harley:D

[Onizuka]

Theres a bike for everyone, you just got to find it

yamaha R1 video (dont know if this will work):

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/pr...m.asx

Yamaha FZ6 video :

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/pr...m.asx

[89NC240SX]

LOL...that insurance quote is outrageous! I've had my R6 since it was new. Guess I'm lucky with my insurance company. I have auto and moto tied in together. Not expensive at all. But if your just starting off and under 21, it will probably cost ya. I dunno though. Was fortunate to have my brothers bikes to learn on. I have been looking at the new R1's alot lately. Probably will move up to it late this year or beginning of next year.

[j-z]

ohh ok, i was wondering what the **** he was talking about. no way in hell am i buying a brand new bike as my first. i can find a nice r6 for less then 3500. i will be 20 in may and im a very wise person. along with my 56 (or is it 57?) year old father who has been around bikes his whole life. hes been on road courses before, both bikes and formula cars. no way in hell am i going to buy a bike to go out and kill myself. i just want to have fun and ride thats all. no wheelies for me. ill carve some sharp turns and maybe see what its like at 150+ once or twice. you can easily hurt yourself just as bad on a 250 or a 1000cc bike. doesnt make a difference, one just has bigger balls than the other. its how you ride the thing. i wouldnt at all be worried about me, i would be worried about all the other ucks on the road that always seem to drive with their heads up their as ses. insurance? whats that?

[kblast523]

My 21 year old 150 mph upright rider costs me $144 a YEAR for full coverage ($250 deduct Coll/$100 Comp and 100/300/100 liability) And I paid on $1200 for the bike two years ago...If I had moved to Ft. Worth from "rural" Bellevue it would have gone to about $100 a month....

[Looneybomber]

no way in hell am i going to buy a bike to go out and kill myself.

Does anyone do that?Quote » i just want to have fun and ride thats all. no wheelies for me. ill carve some sharp turns and maybe see what its like at 150+ once or twice.[/quote] Thats what they all say, including me. Ive seen 185 on my speedo once. Speed and power r very addictive. And once u get past the fear of that front end come up just cuz u hit the gas a little too hard from a stop, u will want to be doing wheelies from every stop sign. Bikes r the funnest things in the world, HUGE adrenaline rush, more so than any production car. I recommend 2 wheels to anyone!

[Onizuka]

Its very ignorant to think a 1000cc sport bike is just as safe as a 250cc bike. The ninja 250 can go like 120 tops, the bikes your talking about go almost that fast in first gear. You dont need a retardedly fast bike to start, only a cheap safe bike to learn on, then you move up when your ready.

http://www.beginnerbikes.com/

I got wise and started reading there^Even if you think you are too cool to drive a 250cc bike, i suggest at least read up and find a better alternative to a street legal race bike. There are members ages 16-75 that post there, many who have stories of regret for purchasing a bike that was too much for them to start with.

Back on topic, heres another totally sweet bike:

[j-z]

neither is safer over the other. theyre both/all EQUALLY dangerous. it will be atleast a year before i actually own my own bike. the 240 isnt even boosted yet and with me going to college i aint rakin in that much dough (i dont even have a job as we speak, i havent worked since october lol). after riding my dads fizzy around for a while im sure ill be plenty ready to get the r6 i want, which i will sooner or later have.

[Nathan]

insurance? whats that?

I sincerely hope this part is nothing more than a joke. As for a 1000cc bike and a 250cc bike being just as dangerous, thats utter bull****. To an experienced rider who knew how to control both of them, perhaps...as long as he drove both of them in the same manner. But to a beginner who is just starting out, there isn't even a comparison there, the 1000cc bike is practically a death sentence, no matter how cool it is.

[Onizuka]

Thank god at least one person understands what im saying. You filling the typical "stupid ***" role if you have never riden a bike before and you think you can just walk on to the scene swinging your big sausage, hop on a rocket, and suffer no concequences.

[Megaseth]

mmm, sausage......

if you read my above post, at least one of them, i also stated that a 1000cc bike for a beginner is a BAD idea. i told you guys i actually laughed at my friend who wanted one for his first bike. this is a guy who thinks hes a good drifter and driver in his 88 5 series.

[kblast523]

It takes time to learn what motorcyle capabilities are. I started my 'personal' motorcycle experience with a 1000cc 10 speed 680 lb machine because I wanted one that was fast AND stable. A 250cc machine is just neither. When you are in your late 40's you have a different adgenda than the 'rocket men' in their 20's. My first experience was on a Honda 305 dream on I44 between the Arkansas River and Lewis Ave in Tulsa that was owned by my cousin in 1968....followed by short stints on a 1956 BSA 500's , 1974 Honda 550 Supersports, 1979 Honda 750's and a couple of Harleys. I chose the Honda to own because it is 'safe' and is big, and is capable of blowing the doors off 99.85% of all vehicles on the road. And it gets consistently 40 mpg....

[89NC240SX]

I would have to agree, there is a big difference. I've been riding motorcycles for 10 years. I'm still learning. I have an R6 which is a fast bike but I thought I knew all about my brothers gixxer1000. Wrong....it about threw me on my a**!! Start easy..then work your way up.

[j-z]

well yeah if i had a smaller bike to start on i would definately take that oppertunity. but hey i have a nice bike sitting here that im free to ride. you guys are making assumptions of my actions on a bike. if i thought it would harm my life i wouldnt do it. especially my dad, why would he let me ride his 6k dollar bike that HE paid for if he didnt think i was capable of riding it just fine? i know my limits and if i find out that that bike is way too ballsy for me then ill just back off of the right wrist. although a 10.5@130 does sound tempting muahaha-(evil laugh). its not like im going to jump right on it, go down the street, and crack it all the way open. i do have common sense.

[Onizuka]

Listen to your self for a second:

"i know my limits"

I thought you have never riden a motorcycle before? How would you know? a motorcycle is a whole new animal.

You dont even know if you will freak out as soon as you get going!!!!!! People freeze up, get target fixation, flip the bike from laying on the throttle and releasing the clutch too fast. I saw a video of a guy go right into a tree at only about 10 mph. Why didnt he turn? Target fixation. **** happens and you have no idea how you will react on top of a bike that can EASILY kill you.

I'm not trying to insult you, im trying to help you.

Go to the beginner bike forum, they have hundreds of rider reviews on bikes, and there are plenty that say even the YFZ600R is a horrible starter bike! and its the slowest yamaha sportbike you can buy!

But it seems you have fooled yourself into thinking you are a great rider already, so good luck and god speed.

[Onizuka]

here is a funny quote used to describe sport bike buying young'uns

Quote »squid squirrely kid.... squirrel - jumps around everywhere and you have no idea what hes going to do next kid - young idiot....has invincibility syndrome squirrely kid - young idiot on motorcycle that you have no idea what they're going to do next invincibility syndrome - guts being larger than intelligence, leads to random acts of stupidity; see also: kid, squid, squirrely kid\ to all squids: <EDIT> insert emoticon shooting bird here </edit> quit raisin my fuggin insurance author: -Ty[/quote]

[Mr1der]

way too much talk of sausage here...

I want a bike for gas mileage right now:(

and they're kinda fun, from what little I've riden one in a backyard in first gear...

[JESTER]

Man you guys are funny. Especially the ones that haven't ridden before. Listen to these guys....

It is best to learn on a small bike. I recommend something like the SV650 or Honda Hawk GT (if you can find one). Small, handles good, cheap, and not too much power to start with. A smaller bike would be better, but being realilistic not to many people are gonna buy 500's and 250's.

No one goes out with the intention of wrecking or getting killed, but it happens every day. The group I rode with has lost a several members in the past few years. One of my best friends died on his Harley Davidson, and he was the safest rider I new. Machanical malfunction are a son of a *****. I sure as hell didn't go out and intend on totalling three out of the four bikes I owned, but I did.

Speed and stunting is very addictive. Even after you crash doing a wheely, you will do them again. That is the only thing I miss about giving up motorcycles. Do it by accident the first time, and the rush you didn't crash will get you wondering if you can do it again. Then you try it and are on top of the world. It's great, until it flips over backwards. If you dont get hurt too bad, you will wheelie again, I promise. It is too powerfull a feeling. Probally like smoking crack, because it sure as hell is addictive.

Some of you guys that havent ridden before need to wise up. Listen to some of these guys that have been riding awhile. Dont go out here and buy the fastest, prettiest, or newest bike. You will mess that first one up. Get something older, cheaper, and slower. If you dont take that advice at least take a rider safety course. Man I wish I had. Buy good quality gear. Except nothing less than a Shoei helmet. It will save your head in a crash, mine kept me breathing, an no facial damage that wouldn't go away in a week or so. Buy gloves, boots, and a good riding jacket with a spine protector, and wear them every single time you get on that death machine. I can't say this enough, buy the gear and WEAR IT!!! When, not if, you go down you will be glad you did. Trust me, I hardly ever wore my jacket and it does take time for skin to grow back. Not to mention, road rash hurts.

Anyway, take some advice from some of the old pros around here, and be smart. Not saying I am a pro by any means, but I started riding in 98 and have learned most of these lessons the hard way.

Be smart and be safe.

Hey J-Spec Tuner, Ever notice how common sense disappears when a newbie climbs on the back of a motorcycle?

[j-z]

j-spec- what youre saying can easily happen on a 250 a 600 or a 1200cc bike. its not the bike, its the rider, the one whos in control of it. i know youre not trying to insult me man. this is a discussion forum and thats what going on. this is a part of life. and my dad is making me take the motorcycle class. i cant ride it till i do. thats why i first said i need to get a job/money so i can take that course and ride it. ive ridden dirt bikes before when i was way little. i know its nothing like having the power of a street bike but i have rode on two wheels and im not gonna freak out. youre making assumptions of my actions again. one bike is not safer over the other. thats all im trying to say.

[j-z]

and i never said i was a good rider. where the hell did that come from? if i dont like it or dont feel comfortable then ill get off. and thanks for the words jester. when i ride i do plan on wearing a jacket of some sort, a helmet for sure, and gloves. i am taking advice from a pro, my dad, who has been on bikes since who god knows when. the 60s.

[Nathan]

its not the bike, its the rider, the one whos in control of it.

Your still missing one very key point though, the rider controls the bike but if its something he's not used too, or particularly proficient yet then the risks of injury increases with the increase in power and unpredictability to the new rider that the bike has, especially if its a powerful street bike. I'm sure you have a great teacher in your dad, all I am really trying to say is to be careful and dont get over confident You seem to have the invincibility syndrome going on here and I hope it doesn't get the best of you. God knows it's almost gotten me quite a few times.

[I Need $$$]

I let one of my friends ride my Honda 185 dirt bike about 4 years ago. He said that he had experience on motorcycles (found out later he meant 4-wheelers) and that he would be alright. When he started to take off he gave it a tad to much throttle and it jerked him back when he let off the clutch. Before he knew it he was running after it because when he got jerked back he also pulled back on the throttle. About a hundred feet later he was on the ground with minor road rash and my bikes front brake lever was bent all the way forward (it was a piece of crap anyways so I just laughed at him). Then last year sometime he called me up and told me he found a great buy on a CBR1000. I laughed at him and told him he was going to kill himself. He didn't get the bike.