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i am looking to do somthing like this how is the emanage has any body done the emanage ultimate and has anybody els ran the aem ems thanx


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i think for the cost i would go megasquirt over emanage any day.

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The ease of not having to modify the crank, buy sensors, build a bracket for the crank sensor, and all of the wiring associated with it might justify the extra cost of the emanage.

I don't understand why nobody has figured out how to use the stock Nissan optical sensor with the Megasquirt.

Or have they and nobody wants to use the sensor?

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I have an E-manage I would like to sell.

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float_6969 wrote:The ease of not having to modify the crank, buy sensors, build a bracket for the crank sensor, and all of the wiring associated with it might justify the extra cost of the emanage.

I don't understand why nobody has figured out how to use the stock Nissan optical sensor with the Megasquirt.

Or have they and nobody wants to use the sensor?
Reason they dont use the Optical sensor is because its a POS with all those horror stories people post about the key breaking, **** going wack, etc etc I would see why everyone would steer clear of it. Also the CAS isnt really the problem its more along the lines of the C.O.P. that takes a little extra work to wire up. With the CAS you just pull the 180* Signal and off you go.

And from looking at MegasquirtCA's write up wiring is retarded easy.

Out of Curiousity does anyone know if he posted the Resistance values of the Nissan sensors so people dont have to use GM sensors? I know some people are looking for it.

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float_6969 wrote:The ease of not having to modify the crank, buy sensors, build a bracket for the crank sensor, and all of the wiring associated with it might justify the extra cost of the emanage.

I don't understand why nobody has figured out how to use the stock Nissan optical sensor with the Megasquirt.

Or have they and nobody wants to use the sensor?
nobody wants to use the nissan sensor, the reason i wanted to ditch the factory ign system was due to spending over 150$ on CAS sensors, and a shaky ignitor chip. you can use the factory sensor you have to jump through some hoops but its doable. Edis is really simple to setup ,and its really reliable and will last for years. its been tested to be stable up to and little higher then 10K RPMs

Sensors are cheap, $20 crank sensor, $20 coolant temp, 20$ IAT, stock TPS map sensor was included in the megasquirt. the crank setup can be made or bought, the pulley can be machined by just about any rookie machinist. the whole system can be taken off a junkyard escort for 40$ maybe less.

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Well that answers that doesn't it?

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where would you position the 36-1 wheel on a ca18 crank pulley ?On the front is the only place I see, if u wanna keep ac & ps.I did see a MSqt'd/edis 4ag with a very thin trigger wheel that may be able to 'squeeze' between the ca18 crank pulley an lower timing cover tho.

Check the emanage thread. A few uk sxoc member had very good sucess with the emanage blue.

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dash wrote:where would you position the 36-1 wheel on a ca18 crank pulley ?On the front is the only place I see, if u wanna keep ac & ps.I did see a MSqt'd/edis 4ag with a very thin trigger wheel that may be able to 'squeeze' between the ca18 crank pulley an lower timing cover tho.

Check the emanage thread. A few uk sxoc member had very good sucess with the emanage blue.
zerothread/164446

theirs several pics of different positions. Tyranixx was able to keep all the belts.

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I think most of them are ditching the PS or the AC

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I havnt put on the AC belt yet. but there is some room for it (a sleightly thinner one)

but if you look at the crank pulley, between the PS and AC parts, theres a little dead space. I had my wizard machine guy lathe the pulley down a bit on that section, borw out the tooth wheel, and heat expand - shrink fit the wheel on there (no welding or JB weld to unbalance teh pulley necessary

a thinner tooth wheel in that space might allow full size belts to be used... i see AC as a luxury, not mandatory like the alternator, and a definate want (PS) , so it gets a thinner belt to accomidate the wheel

but i was toying with that same idea - a thin wheel behind the crank pulley. just chop a bit off the lower timing cover and it should fit. but then attaching it is the problem... even balanced welding FTW?

theres a couple of ways to skin the cat, get your knife

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Has any of you guys tried using this companies wheels?

http://trigger-wheels.com/

They come in different sizes and thinner than what the FORD uses.

I'm sure these work perfectly but I would assume you have to get the VR sensor dead on as well.

Heres some more info on fitting the wheels.

http://trigger-wheels.com/fitting/fitting.php

From the looks of it, welding anything onto our pulley's is a BIG NO NO due to the harmonic balancer that rubber thing, thing is though its not clear if it matters if your using accesories or not.

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yeah, apparently there is enough extra material on the trigger wheel so that it can be machined on to the a/c belt part of the crank pulley. thats my plan anyway. ive got to get this megasquirt on... its getting ridiculous.

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I am waiting for my wife to get home from teh store today, shell be picking up a rigid drill and sawzall (my drill finally crapped out last night, after 10 years)

but that will allow me to finish my bracket. I have the stock all bent and shaped and the adjustment plate welded on. i just have to weld on some posts onto the back to keep it in place.

i used an L bracket, bent it into a U at a bit under the right distance, and welded on a wider/thicker square for an adjustment plate . its close to dead on where it needs to be, but i wont be able to tell until i get the new drill.

it secures to the alternator bolt, but i am going to weld on some posts to the rear of the bracket to keep it from moving too far.

ill take some pics and stuff of it all together tonight when she gets home with my new tool

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tyrannix wrote:I am waiting for my wife to get home from teh store today, shell be picking up a rigid drill and sawzall (my drill finally crapped out last night, after 10 years)J
That's a quality lady. When she will go get tools for you guys she's a keeper. Just remember to be as good a sport when she sends you out for her lady stuff.

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so, how about them pictures? im interested to see how youve got it all set up.

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Please to checking my sig, I am selling my old Skyline's E-manage to foot my rebuild.

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I am reviving a wayyyyy old thread because I have some Q"S for you TMS!!!!I want to run a VPC sooo bad after reading about it. Being that I only see ones for Z32's on ebay what can I do???? This may be dumb but I have no idea about what you have on your car. Soooo how did you run the VPC? Did you have one with a CA chip in it!??!!? I'm wondering if I could buy the Z32 one and then see if hks could just burn the chip for it so it would function right? I want to run a map so bad on the CA!!! That would be sooooo awesome. Or maybe if you know anyone selling one let me know *with the ca setup in mind. I don't care if shipping would be another like $150 it would be worth it to me:)

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And then I would also have to find another ca wiring harness to make the jumper for it. I have no trouble splicing the Z32's I'd just have to have both wiring diagrams in front of me for all the connectors, but that would be sawwwweeetttt:) Ooo or p.s. I wonder if a chip can't be found if I could pay you to have a copy of yours burned so I could use it????

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I dont know if this is any help but I think its similar to what you are talking about ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...A1318

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Thats a pretty pimpin old school setup there man.

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So is it to late to chime in that my engine is possibly run by some squirrels and/or chipmunks??

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Liquid_Neon wrote:So is it to late to chime in that my engine is possibly run by some squirrels and/or chipmunks??
Not at all!

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I would like to add that Power FC's and nissan engines go together like peas and carrots. And s14 SR d-jetro power fc's that can be had for 600 used with hand commander (the ones with the same ecu plug as CA) are able to have a few wires reppined and will run a CA map based....like what. More information to be had on sxoc.com if anybody comes to their senses and realizes power FC is amazingly awsome and easy shmeezy lemon peazy.

power FC rev limiter sounds like gunshots as well, its rad to say the least.

choosing MAF type and scaling injectors can be done via the hand commander by even a retarded orangutan in order to easily get you to the dyno. Make sure whoever tunes it doesnt use the hand commander claiming "no biggie, we got this" and find a authorized power excel shop, or someone with FC datalogit who can tune it on the street.

If your in the NJ area, and have a power FC that needs tuning I can point you in the right direction for a solid tune that wont break the bank.


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hopes dreams and excitement!!!!

(Emanage Blue)

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Hey wats good people I am running an AEM box with the uego cable built in. I bought it from Imort performance parts.net I paid 1900 for it. It is very easy to install just swap out your stock ecu for this one and your done . Than upload the included base map for the ca and your running. I choose to switch over to a speed density set up to eliminate the MAF which is still fairly easy you can just use the wires from the MAF harness and just pop out the pins nd change them too the correct location. All you will need is an aem or gm pressure sensore its better to get a higher pressure than you will be running in my case 3.5 bar sensor. and you will also need an aem air temp sensor. I would highly reccomend this system to any body serious about tuning their ca and learning to tune them self . Their software is very good and easy to navigate around . any more questions let me know cheers .

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ganma_ca wrote:I am reviving a wayyyyy old thread because I have some Q"S for you TMS!!!!I want to run a VPC sooo bad after reading about it. Being that I only see ones for Z32's on ebay what can I do???? This may be dumb but I have no idea about what you have on your car. Soooo how did you run the VPC? Did you have one with a CA chip in it!??!!? I'm wondering if I could buy the Z32 one and then see if hks could just burn the chip for it so it would function right? I want to run a map so bad on the CA!!! That would be sooooo awesome. Or maybe if you know anyone selling one let me know *with the ca setup in mind. I don't care if shipping would be another like $150 it would be worth it to me:)
Mine was a stock computer.All the VPC does is use a pressure and temp sensor to generate a signal to replace the AFM's, not that complicated. In that way it piggy backs in much the same way as an SAFC.It's old-school but it works, mine did. Like so many bad mechanical outcomes it was the human factor that did my car in, dumbass behind the knobs.

This unit is long out of production and there is likely little to no help out there to modify it even at HKS dealers. The chips were burned for specific setups and if they are as shipped from HKS there will be a number on the ROM that will tell you what it was burned for. There is no way to know though if it was rewritten at some time in its life so buyer beware.

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Everyone thanks for the replies. Have to look into some of the post you peeps put up. Though I think TMS is right. Just been out of production for so long:(Sad day. Even though it is old school it would still be super sweet to have.I did see that GCC, with the FCD before. That would just be an add on, but i'd buy that setup and then just buy the VPC, but then i'd be down to having to track down the right chip for it:( Which would probably be near impossible. I also don't want to drop a grand into the AEM EMS blah blah blah. Mean Green, does the e-manage blue have an option to run a map instead of maf? I think I heard that at one point but I might be coo coo lol:)

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that would be the silver one, the ultimate.

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ks13 wrote:easy shmeezy lemon peazy.
You mean "easy peazy lemon squeezie?"


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