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blackversaatl
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So you got me on a typo (the year of the new mustangs)? Are you that anal? LOL

Dang, relax dude. I can see the fact of a V beating a Hemi or your Mustang really bothers you LOL Seems like ur the one that needs to relax.

As far as feeling myself on the V, it's not even like that. I don't think they are fast either, it's just that EVERYTIME, mine beats out much faster cars, ones that it shouldn't. It would be nice to be smoked by these faster cars, but it hasn't happened yet except for that 330CI on the hwy that got the jump on me. I matched his pull for a few, but the V fell flat on it's face after 120 and it left me. That's what I was saying about the Hemi. If we kept going, he would have left me. It's just that I managed to walk him up til that point, and he left off.

That's the same thing with the Siphon Versa, yet it was beating the higher power cars with very minimal mods.

http://www.turn3creative.com/versa.html

Don't put words in my mouth (saying um feeling myself on the V, etc). Again, casting judgement when you don't even know the facts.



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blackversaatl wrote:So you got me on a typo (the year of the new mustangs)? Are you that anal? LOL

Dang, relax dude. I can see the fact of a V beating a Hemi or your Mustang really bothers you LOL Seems like ur the one that needs to relax.

As far as feeling myself on the V, it's not even like that. I don't think they are fast either, it's just that EVERYTIME, mine beats out much faster cars, ones that it shouldn't. It would be nice to be smoked by these faster cars, but it hasn't happened yet except for that 330CI on the hwy that got the jump on me. I matched his pull for a few, but the V fell flat on it's face after 120 and it left me. That's what I was saying about the Hemi. If we kept going, he would have left me. It's just that I managed to walk him up til that point, and he left off.

That's the same thing with the Siphon Versa, yet it was beating the higher power cars with very minimal mods.

http://www.turn3creative.com/versa.html

Don't put words in my mouth (saying um feeling myself on the V, etc). Again, casting judgement when you don't even know the facts.

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I'm sorry but I just don't see it happening. You're talking about a drag race from point A to B. When I see stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhoxHK9XSx8 and combine that with what I've killed in my truck alone, it's just hard for me to get down with that statement. On the track. That's totally different. I've seen a Miata beat out a Viper and M5. How? The drivers of the other 2 cars were not pros, but the Miata driver was. He hit every last apex in the corners while the other cars struggled to keep their horsepower under control and going into turns on the inside. On that track, anythings possible. There's magic in those alligator strips. You hit everyone and you'll be ahead of the pack in no time. A drag race is a little bit more straight forward.

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I agree with Proxim2020!!

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BBISHOPPCM wrote:I beat a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria with black rims... that thing was SWEET! The guy had it all done up with reflective graphics, strobe lights (didn't know those were legal!) even had a laptop computer, a funload of radio equipment, antennas, and a brush guard (for off-roading?) Man, I totally left him in the dust. He had all his strobes on (show off!) tried to catch up with me, but everyone knows, if you want to be a true street racer, the Crown Vic is not the best choice.
oh man, that was hilarious. I think your humour was a little too subtle to be picked up by alot of the people on the forum.

Wow, I don't know how you people race up to 120 MPH and stuff like that. I did the maximum in my 240 a couple of times (not racing anyone, just to see how fast it would go) and it just felt too dangerously fast to do on the streets, not to mention the serious butt hurt I would get if I was pulled over. So yeah, I have hit my speed limiter maybe 4 times in total, and it was really 5 times too many.

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Yeah... I'd just like to publicly repeat:

*face palm* I'm a little slow and I'm blaming it on my headcold which won't go away...

The laugh at myself was a good one... it only took me - what - 3 days to get it...

*exit for sleep*

blackversaatl
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I'm with proxim2020. IMO the V is far from a drag car, in any form. I think it would make an EXCELLENT Autocross vehicle, such as the Siphon V.

I know I'm a VERY good driver, better than most, so I know that probably plays a HUGE roll into my encounters no matter what I'm driving.

Has anyone autocrossed their V yet?

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I would like to introduce my self with this first post... i just bought a 2007 V SL HB 3 days ago... i havent done any mods to it except the packages that came with it... i have all the packages except abs and sports pack because it hasnt come out in CA yet... i wanted a fully loaded out of the factory V because there is no use in buying a entry level car with out the packages... unless you will be modding it up right away... im just breaking in my V so im driving around below 4000 RPM but suprisingly its not having a hard time going up the hill or in the flats and even recovering from a turn... i have a manual civic with a b18c engine yes its a little rice rocket... with my lil civic i cannot beat audis or rx8... except if the driver is not that good... yes im not a perfect shifter so probably with the perfect shifts i can beat those cars... with the V thats what i have noticed... a perfect shift... or close to it... earlier i was driving at the freeway and this RX8 on my side rev at me and accelerated so i was trying to stay with it under 4000 RPM but i said f* it just once... so i step on it with out flooring the pedal... i was staying on its side then i step on the gas a little more and it passed the RX8 so if your V "CVT" is beating the higher class it is because of your near perfect shift with the CVT transmission... no gears just continous shifting... who knows if you put a cvt on every car the V would be left behind all the time... future plans for my V... CAI, sway bars, exhaust with bigger pipes, jdm tailights(waiting for shipment), headlight still calling around, custom body kit from xtreme design, not this is not going to be an overnight deal... this comes with a high $$$ :P also tinting... will be posting the stock pic of my V tomorrow... too tired from driving around... street racing is bad dont do it save more gas :P

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Benchthug,

U brought out a great point. If all cars had the CVT, the V would get left in the dust by everything on the road.

I would have to agree. In the CVT, I ALWAYS get the PERFECT shift, and rpms, and ANY speed. A manual leaves room for driver error, even if you don't miss shift.

To me, it's better than a Manual. Maybe not as fun and as efficient (though damn close!), at least in Atlanta's crazy traffic.

I don't think the V is really that fast. It's just the gearing. The Service Manager at the dealership I bought mine from said it's fast ONLY because of the gearing in the CVT. Then again too, my V is no longer stock either.

He said all Nissans with CVT are flying like a bat outta hell in comparison to the autos, and even the manuals (to an extent).

I wanna see more reviews performance wise on the CVT transmission in the other 2007 + Nissans

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i had the same story with my 06 civic got flooded, but anywayz bout the who i beat , after i recently installed a stillen axleback and w/ the 6 speed manuak. i pulled up to a 300c on the ramp to a highway and from the start i pretty much had the lead. although that was b/c i had a faster response at the light but he never got to passing me, so ya the lil 1.8 versa kinda surprised me by staying with a 2.7 v6. go V!!!

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Wow... I should have watched this one more carefully, you kids are all going after each other like a Vin Diesel action figure in a bulldog's mouth.

So since it's too late to stop the bickering, I might as well join... where to begin?

First... Street racing and stoplight racing are illegal and dangerous. Don't do it. And if you are "proud" of your street racing "heritage", do us all a favor and throw your keys into the pacific ocean. Before you hurt yourself... or worse, hurt someone completely innocent.

Second... for blackversaatl - Yes, I have autocrossed my V. It was pretty fun, but you REALLY need better wheels and tires. The Contis could barely hold a straight line, much less turning at speed.

Third... shreqboi - Since you take so much pride in your street racing, it's funny to me to know that you're either touting wins over people who obviously weren't trying, or had a severe handicap of an automatic transmission. Or a Toyota engine. How about posting some timeslips to tout your victories? Oh yeah, that's right, you can't because you race ILLEGALLY (by your own admission)

Fourth... again, back to blackversaatl - Several sources have tested the V 6MT vs the V CVT in flat-out drags. The 6MT won every single time, sometimes by a quite significant margin. That being said, these are obviously professional drivers doing the racing, as driver skill has a LOT to do with it when dragging a manual. Unlike an automatic where you just mash the gas and let the TCU handle the shifting. Less experienced manual drivers WILL lose to automatics. Not the car's fault.

Fifth... all of you who worship drag... jeebus. Any idiot can drive fast in a straight line. Go test your mettle on an autocross course. Your adrenal glands will thank me.


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Ever Victorious wrote:Wow... I should have watched this one more carefully, you kids are all going after each other like a Vin Diesel action figure in a bulldog's mouth.

So since it's too late to stop the bickering, I might as well join... where to begin?

First... Street racing and stoplight racing are illegal and dangerous. Don't do it. And if you are "proud" of your street racing "heritage", do us all a favor and throw your keys into the pacific ocean. Before you hurt yourself... or worse, hurt someone completely innocent.

Second... for blackversaatl - Yes, I have autocrossed my V. It was pretty fun, but you REALLY need better wheels and tires. The Contis could barely hold a straight line, much less turning at speed.

Third... shreqboi - Since you take so much pride in your street racing, it's funny to me to know that you're either touting wins over people who obviously weren't trying, or had a severe handicap of an automatic transmission. Or a Toyota engine. How about posting some timeslips to tout your victories? Oh yeah, that's right, you can't because you race ILLEGALLY (by your own admission)

Fourth... again, back to blackversaatl - Several sources have tested the V 6MT vs the V CVT in flat-out drags. The 6MT won every single time, sometimes by a quite significant margin. That being said, these are obviously professional drivers doing the racing, as driver skill has a LOT to do with it when dragging a manual. Unlike an automatic where you just mash the gas and let the TCU handle the shifting. Less experienced manual drivers WILL lose to automatics. Not the car's fault.

Fifth... all of you who worship drag... jeebus. Any idiot can drive fast in a straight line. Go test your mettle on an autocross course. Your adrenal glands will thank me.
actually EV, unlike others i can prove victories as i have all my "real: races recorded....lol.....u think u know it all.... .....and as for the time slips, i also have those too....my best time was a 16.8 1/4 mile and i will be posting those time slips as soon as i find them, since the last time i raced was back in september when no upgrades where available for the V.... ....now, if u say it isnt about a straight line, i bet i can school you in any canyon pass/hwy/track even in a "straight line"

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FR > FF

i will pwnz joo all in teh canyonzzzzz!!!!1!!!

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dont under estimate me....lol

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bahhhhh

when your car is featured in initial D and D1Gp then boast

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shreqboi909 wrote:
actually EV, unlike others i can prove victories as i have all my "real: races recorded....lol.....u think u know it all.... .....and as for the time slips, i also have those too....my best time was a 16.8 1/4 mile and i will be posting those time slips as soon as i find them, since the last time i raced was back in september when no upgrades where available for the V.... ....now, if u say it isnt about a straight line, i bet i can school you in any canyon pass/hwy/track even in a "straight line"
I don't doubt you have timeslips. I do doubt that some of the cars on your list were your opponents when said timeslips were generated.

You keep repeatedly harping on canyon/highway racing, which is clearly illegal and nothing to be proud of. Furthermore a violation of TOS to talk about, so consider this your first and last warning on the subject.

I'd love to school/be schooled on the track by you (I don't care which way it goes) on an autocross course in your own V. I'm not JP Montoya, I'm not so bent on winning that I screw everyone and everything on the way. When I race it is for fun, nothing more.

I can, however, be very petty and vindictive if my buttons are pushed wrong. Just ask Clipsed.

So this is the part where you slink away and lay low for a while... be a good PRODUCTIVE member for a while, then I'll go back to ignoring you.


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shreqboi909 wrote:dont under estimate me....lol
Dude, you've been driving for, what... a year?

You'd better log some track time before you come up in here talking all that nonsense. This isn't a ricer forum, and many of the people here have a lot of track experience and have driven fast cars - a Versa doesn't qualify.

EVEYONE says, "I have time slips." No one cares. A dead cat could pull a 16.8 in a versa if you duct-taped it to the gas pedal.

Seriously, enough with the BS.

Enjoy your stay here, you don't need to impress anyone.

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i personally dont like drag racing, i prefer drifting i kno it sounds like i watch too much initial d or fast and the furuoius but at least drifting theres some skill involved. i dont it sum times wit my versa b/c there is a sum what of a course where i live around chicago area so me and my friends go out on the weekends and hav fun there.

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seay1b1 wrote:i have beat.... 2 guys on foot, 3 guys on bicycles, 1 girl on foot, a moped (but he did get a jump on me), 100s of ants, an old lady in an electric wheel chair, one kid in a powerwheels jeep, a bus, a yugo and a midget on a unicycle. other than that im pretty much the slowest car around

im sure the old lady with the electric wheelchair had more torque than my versa but i got her on reaction time.
At least there is one honest person in this thread.

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beancooker wrote:

At least there is one honest person in this thread.
I LOL'ed at that post. +1, I needed that!

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so i guess since one of u wasnt enough two of u had to come at me! real mature, even for a moderator! i really dont have to prove anything to anyone, everyone gets a chance to get there mouth shut, and fortunate for me, i depend on skills and not luck....and since i really enjoy this forum i would apreciate it if neither one of u responded, since i dnt have the "power" u guys have been given....

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to close this one:

its pretty clear that a versa is a 1.8 4cyl 122 hp vehicle...a 4cyl dohc/sohc cant beat a v6 in stock MT/AT/CVT just think about it hahaha...the only way to match a little engine to the big engine is to have better airflow , turbo, racing specs cams and pistons, racing specs ecu, better suspension, better tires and a little wider rims... but the best weapon for bigger engines are better driver hahaha...

yes a V is capable of beating any car as long as the driver is slow "reaction time"

stop mocking other people on their post because it might be true...

but match a 122-130 hp vehicle to the versa and the versa will take it on any day in stock...

isnt this a Versa forum... just think about how you can make your versa better instead of downing your beloved car... because i cant believe you bought a versa and start flaming on your own versa... just trade in your versa and add a little more money and get your self a lancer...

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shreqboi909 wrote:so i guess since one of u wasnt enough two of u had to come at me! real mature, even for a moderator! i really dont have to prove anything to anyone, everyone gets a chance to get there mouth shut, and fortunate for me, i depend on skills and not luck....and since i really enjoy this forum i would apreciate it if neither one of u responded, since i dnt have the "power" u guys have been given....
Dude, neither of us are coming after you. You would definitely know if I were.

Second of all, I'm glad that you enjoy racing your Versa. However, facts are facts. The Versa's 0-60 is 9.5 seconds. You have 122HP at the flywheel. That converts to about 110HP with a manual and about 100Hp with the Autotragic.

Third, when someone says that they beat a car that is putting down 300+ HP with a car that is 100HP, that is just pure BS. The FACT is that the 300+HP car WAS NOT RACING. It's simply a lack of perception. When you floor the gas in your car, you feel like it's taking off. The 300+HP car next to you, is just normally accellerating. You think because your car is at full throttle, they must be also. Wrong. They are at less than 1/2 throttle. That's all. If he were putting it to the wood, all you would see is tail lights. Unless you S/C, T/C or spray N2o in the Versa, you will not have a chance at walking a Mustang, 3.5 Altima, WRX, Charger (especially a HEMI) or even my Maxima for that matter.

Enjoy your racing, be safe, but most of all, be honest with yourself.


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shreqboi909 wrote:so i guess since one of u wasnt enough two of u had to come at me! real mature, even for a moderator! i really dont have to prove anything to anyone, everyone gets a chance to get there mouth shut, and fortunate for me, i depend on skills and not luck....
The fact that you didn't respond with facts tells me my assessment was spot-on.

Where'd you get these "skills"?

Every car feels "fast" when you're 17.

I'll tell Papadakis you're ready to take his job.

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the double moderator burn is a severe and long lasting injury. symptoms of DMB include nausea, depression, frequent crying, and unexplained butt pain.

But in all seriousness, drive a fast car and feel the difference. Getting in a G35 after being used to my 240SX was like night and day. Especially on the highway, your puny versa would get beat every single time.

Imagination races are the only ones you would win.

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Stop killing your versa... its a pretty new car and it got its own class... in the track if it is organize if you can kill you battle the next class if your engine+mods+weight doesnt qualify you for a kill then you are just suicidal...

Facts: Versa is a new car... new class of its own... after market parts will not be widely available for the next 3 months or even till next year... it all depends on the demand... Versa has a lot of potential if you look at the engine bay...

IF YOU WANT TO JOKE ABOUT THE VERSA I THINK YOU ARE IN THE WRONG SECTION OF THE FORUM AND IF YOU HAVE A VERSA THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR TRADE IT IN...

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I am sure the Versa is a great car. It is laughable when people think they beat STI's though. that is just tomfoolery. I would never be able to beat a STI in my stock 240, even though it has 155hp at the flywheel and it weighs the same as a Versa. I know my car is slow also, but I don't start crying when people point that out. Put down the crack and pick up some common sense.

Facts: versa has 122 hp at the flywheel. Versa is slow.

Fiction: Versa can beat stuff in a race.

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do you even own a versa???

Versa can beat SCION XA stock anyday include the toyota yaris/HB stock... and matrix/Vibe

who is crying anyways...You are talking about your 240SX in a VERSA forum...

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benchthug wrote:Versa can beat SCION XA stock anyday include the toyota yaris/HB stock... and matrix/Vibe
Now that I can believe. And no, I don't own a versa, but I have driven one. If you want to be all technical, why are you talking about Toyotas in a versa forum. Noone can mention any car other than a Versa according to you. You are not allowed to talk about any car that you "beat", unless it is a versa. If you do not know why I brought up my 240sx, then you sir are a tool. I was just using that as an example. The person who is doing the most crying is shreq, not you. He was getting all bent out of shape when people were doubting that his versa killed sti's and hemis. As I said before, I am sure the versa is a great car. I am a big fan of the styling, and if I was in the market for that sort of car, I wouldnt hesitate to buy one. It is however slow. I do know that from experience. That thing would not win a race against many cars. Yes, I could see it beating cars in it's class like the Yaris and scions and stuff like that. No, I do not think it could beat half of the stuff that people in this thread claim, especially in a straight line. Autocross is another matter altogether, where power is nowhere near as important as driver skill.


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