what have you beat?

[proxim2020]

Well in all fairness, your power to weight ration (PTWR) is more important that HP. Big rigs have HP that range from several hundred to a few thousand, but their sheer weight (without a trailer) keeps them slow. A stock mustang may pack 250 hp but it drives like a peppy family car. When you think about how restrictive a lot of these cars are at stock and how much extra weight is added by being much larger, a lot of these situations sound feasible. A 300hp TT will spank a 300hp mustang any day.

[justmerging]

Clipsed,

apparently you didn't READ my post. It does come down to the driver, on an autocross course power is nowhere near as important as handling and driving ability. Go to an autocross event and witness the sheer humiliation of some porshe (sp?) owners when they get worked by an old honda civic hatch. It's quite hilarious when they get butthurt and just leave after the first run.

I, by no means, think this car is FAST. It's not even really quick. But that doesn't mean I can't have fun with it (especially showing up cars with a much higher hp/tq rating and sticker prices.

[blackversaatl]

Proxim2020 is right. It's all about horsepower to weight ratio. I can't 200 horsepower in a light car is just like 400 in a heavy car.

I can't speak for the others, but I actually know a few of the people that I raced, so yes, they were on the gas and this distances won were pretty accurate.

When I first test drove & bought the V, the sales lady was like, "You're not gonna win any races in this car" and I agreed with her, cause it was slow as hell at first. But after the engine was broken in, it's pretty quick/fast now. I wish she could see my kills list now I'm not stupid, it's not like it's a 13 or 12 second 100mph something trapping car, but it performed like it did above. The CVT is weird, cause is shifts differently when I get on it at times (infinite gearing I guess).

It's not much info out there on the V, so we'll have to wait and see. I was going to head to the track today, but one track has an event today, and the other no test-n-tune night tonight. Hopefully the weather will hold up for next Friday. I'll post my new win/loss list then if I go.

[blackversaatl]

Check this out everyone lol

Versa STOCK auto (auto or cvt?) smokes a 2002 Civic coupe with a CAI an nice exhaust (whatever that is)

One of the guys on here said that he smoked a Civic just like this lol

http://vids.myspace.com/index....10404

[proxim2020]

Well I knew it would happen one day, but I've had my first official illegal street race in my V today while going to work...although it wasn't much of a race. Some punk in a Honda Civic came up to the light and started revving his engine. This was highly annoying so I decided to show him a little thing or 2. We raced down spur 527 which is about 1 mile, 2 lane, twisty freeway on ramp basically. Long story short by the time we reached the actual freeway, I had blew him out with a 1.5 sec lead while he sat back there with a certain body part in his hands trying to figure out what happen I felt bad for him and let up once I got to the freeway. My work was done.

[j2theflo]

glad to hear ppl are racing the v on the track. im in the process of gettin one myself jus curious on how the v handles in a hairpin turn. i live in the catskills so mountain racing is all i do, racing stop light to spot light is retarted. i dont want to find out for myself during a test drive. so yea does it feel. n if u were beating all those cars on the track did u do any serious mods on the car.
Modified by j2theflo at 12:05 PM 4/19/2007

[justmerging]

all my mods are in my sig. The biggest issue you will run into in a hairpin turn is the one wheel peel you;ll get from the inside tire. Tires help this a little but without a limited slip I'm afraid there isn't much we can do. Next time I go to the track I'm going to "tune" (basically set the brake really tight) the rear drums to see if I can get some braking oversteer when I enter the corner which will lessen the weight transfer off of the problem wheel. I hope it helps.

[CYCLEGUY]

Do you guys think a Versa SL w/CVT could beat a top of the line Matrix A/T ???

[CYCLEGUY]

haha, gurantee that would not have happened with me! I will take you in my 01 GT Vert!!!

This thread I find that people over exaggerate in this thread, and kind of just ignore it. This is a little retarded how some of these cars are quite a bit more powerful than the V and you guys claim to have beat them. Did the other guy know you were actually racing or did he just step on it for a second and let you go because he didnt want a ticket like you!???

Do you think a V w/cvt could beat a top of the line Matrix a/t ??? Both have about the same horsepower rating 4 more for the matrix, torque 1ft lb more for the V, weight, V is about 1-2 hundred pounds heavier. I was thinking with the CVT it would be a good race. What do you think ?? Have you raced one of these cars already??

[Tacuvito]

Well, when I had my Jetta Borla I beat a Sentra SER, a Jetta VR6, a Mittsubishi Lancer and a 96 Mustang GT. But then it got flooded and the car was ruined.

[KimberKenobi]

IMHO:

"stoplight races" (where on car is trying to pass another car via the stoplight) is kind of a thrill for me because I like to keep people from doing that... whatever tickles you, right??

For me it breaks down into the following:gearing, shifting, and distance.

I once (oh I laughed) after a concert had a 93 Probe GT (you know, the ugly bodystyle - also IMHO, my Probe GT was a '90) that was trying to get in front of me (like they couldn't get BEHIND a '93 Subaru Loyale) and so I essentially "beat" them at every one of four lights in Lexington until they had to get behind me or miss the on-ramp (I was not getting on the on ramp) ... The first light she smirked at my car.... I laughed from the second light on as she got more and more pissed ... I thought it was freakin' fantastic and had never been prouder of my doo-doo colored baby.

In my mind, it helps if you know when the other person has to shift because those shift points are valuable areas to gain distance with the right timing and vehicle combo. Also, if you're going a block versus 3 blocks, speed is nothing compared to shifting in most cases.

I would also like to add that I was a senior in high school at this time and (not that it explains/excuses anything) but there you go.

I will also admit that I, on occasion, like to see how my car will preform if it has to (always good to know). I am happy with my Camel because when I ask, she can usually give. (like the other day when I found a semi on my *** and laying on the horn, yeah, I totally asked for some acceleration to get the F*** out of there... and Camel gave it to me like a champ!)

BTW: and I just have to add this because I am so excited... I GOT MY BADGE YESTERDAY!!! I am a badge carrying investigator! and I have badge #19!! (EEEEEHHHHHHH!!!!)Sorry, I know that was horrifyingly OT, but I couldn't resist...

*exit*

note: dang, I am page 2...

[proxim2020]

With cars so evenly matched, it's all about the driver. On the track, the driver wins the race, not the car.

[S3t0_S13]

With cars so evenly matched, it's all about the driver. On the track, the driver wins the race, not the car.

i was bout to make fun of u for a sec, i thought u were Redtop91, has the same damn sig i think haha,

was amazed for a second, im like wow, ryon said something intellegint

[R6_240sx]

[BBISHOPPCM]

I beat a 2005 Ford Crown Victoria with black rims... that thing was SWEET! The guy had it all done up with reflective graphics, strobe lights (didn't know those were legal!) even had a laptop computer, a funload of radio equipment, antennas, and a brush guard (for off-roading?) Man, I totally left him in the dust. He had all his strobes on (show off!) tried to catch up with me, but everyone knows, if you want to be a true street racer, the Crown Vic is not the best choice.

[KimberKenobi]

In Kentucky the only colors you can't strobe (legally) are red and blue.

Anything else is left for the officer to defend if he chooses to take action against it.

[S3t0_S13]

ricer sanctuary in kentucky?

im headin out guys!

[brettv]

i've taken out a ferrari, a porsche 911 turbo, fully done up bmw m5, fully done audi s4, a viper.

oh wait that was on my R1!

but honestly i think i took a turtle out with the versa, it was close but i think i got him by a bit!

[KimberKenobi]

... it's illegal for the obvious reasons... (impersonating cop, either intentionally or unintentionally)

Cops and troopers can pull anyone with strobing lights over and confiscate them. If the person makes a big fuss and takes it into court, the judge will usually side with the cop/trooper, but according to statues, only red and blue are illegal (and only if they strobe or can be strobed)

[blackversaatl]

Okay, this was the sweetest race I had in the V (I have the CVT). I wasn't planning on doing this, but it was on the way to work, EARLY in the morning, and no one was on the road.

An 06 Dodge Charger R/T with racing stripes down the middle and the exhaust LOOKED stock, but different from the others. Anyway,

He passed me (I let him do that on purpose), I caught up to him in the upcoming curve on purpose (not sharp), and on the straight away, I guess he realized I was trying to catch up to him. From 85, he floored it (I could hear his engine through his exhaust).

Come to find out, a 05-06 Audi A6 2.8 was behind him, trying to catch up to him in the curve too!

It was a 3 car race. The Charger had 2 cars on me before starting, and I had 1.5 cars on the Audi before starting.

We all went from 85mph.

At first, the Charger SLIGHTLY pulled on me, and I was expecting then to get burned, cause I did 2 days ago by a 330CI Bimmer (well hung right with him for a few eventhough he already took off way before me and I was playing catch up) lol. That was before I had a chance to drop the hammer with the O/D off. I ended up walking him fairly quickly, and by 120, I had 2 cars on him even with starting 2 cars back!

I was so busy watching to see if I would pull on the Charger (which I did), but when I did look up in the rear view, we BOTH left the Audi! LMAO

I used to have a 300C, and though the Hemis pull pretty hard, they get sluggish IMO for a 350 up top.

When I slowed down to like 60, the Charger never tried to get even close to me, or the Audi.

My exit came up first, they were still going, and when they got to where they could see me, they BOTh had this SHOCKED look on their faces like

ESPECIALLY the driver in the Audi!

Priceless.

I wasn't surprised. I walked a R/T Charger back in December 06 on the Hwy. I thought I was going to get beat, and just dropped the hammer to see how bad, but I ended up walking the Charger. It never tried to pass me after I slowed down then too!

I'm also not surprised, cause one of my best friends has an 06 Altima 3.5 Auto, and we are basically a tie from a dig, but believe it or not, I pull on him up top, and from a hwy roll, same thing I pull. Of course he'll pass me later, cause he has a higher top speed but I can get him long enough to end the race. EVERY TIME.

Had I was thinking, I should have recorded that 3 car race cause I know it sounds unbelieveable and I'm just waiting for the flamers to chime in now. I wasn't expecting it, and it happened so fast, I forgot too!

Modified by blackversaatl at 4:36 PM 5/8/2007
Modified by blackversaatl at 4:37 PM 5/8/2007

[BBISHOPPCM]

Kimberkinobi, it was a joke! In other words, I would have been drag-racing a freakin' cop! Ah, I thought it was funny.

[COVersaSL]

I am sorry but I think this thread must be a joke, Some of the cars I have seen on the "I have beaten" lists ....a couple I can remember that stuck out BMW X5 and Sub WRX sti... not even if they missed a shift stopped and got something to eat. LOL I havn't had mine long enough to beat on it yet but I will try to come back and give a real list. Thank you to those who posted real or atleast possible targets.

[KimberKenobi]

?!?

I was responding to S3T0...

[Clipsed]

Okay, this was the sweetest race I had in the V (I have the CVT). I wasn't planning on doing this, but it was on the way to work, EARLY in the morning, and no one was on the road.

An 06 Dodge Charger R/T with racing stripes down the middle and the exhaust LOOKED stock, but different from the others. Anyway,

He passed me (I let him do that on purpose), I caught up to him in the upcoming curve on purpose (not sharp), and on the straight away, I guess he realized I was trying to catch up to him. From 85, he floored it (I could hear his engine through his exhaust).

Come to find out, a 05-06 Audi A6 2.8 was behind him, trying to catch up to him in the curve too!

It was a 3 car race. The Charger had 2 cars on me before starting, and I had 1.5 cars on the Audi before starting.

We all went from 85mph.

At first, the Charger SLIGHTLY pulled on me, and I was expecting then to get burned, cause I did 2 days ago by a 330CI Bimmer (well hung right with him for a few eventhough he already took off way before me and I was playing catch up) lol. That was before I had a chance to drop the hammer with the O/D off. I ended up walking him fairly quickly, and by 120, I had 2 cars on him even with starting 2 cars back!

I was so busy watching to see if I would pull on the Charger (which I did), but when I did look up in the rear view, we BOTH left the Audi! LMAO

I used to have a 300C, and though the Hemis pull pretty hard, they get sluggish IMO for a 350 up top.

When I slowed down to like 60, the Charger never tried to get even close to me, or the Audi.

My exit came up first, they were still going, and when they got to where they could see me, they BOTh had this SHOCKED look on their faces like

ESPECIALLY the driver in the Audi!

Priceless.

I wasn't surprised. I walked a R/T Charger back in December 06 on the Hwy. I thought I was going to get beat, and just dropped the hammer to see how bad, but I ended up walking the Charger. It never tried to pass me after I slowed down then too!

I'm also not surprised, cause one of my best friends has an 06 Altima 3.5 Auto, and we are basically a tie from a dig, but believe it or not, I pull on him up top, and from a hwy roll, same thing I pull. Of course he'll pass me later, cause he has a higher top speed but I can get him long enough to end the race. EVERY TIME.

Had I was thinking, I should have recorded that 3 car race cause I know it sounds unbelieveable and I'm just waiting for the flamers to chime in now. I wasn't expecting it, and it happened so fast, I forgot too!

Modified by blackversaatl at 4:36 PM 5/8/2007

Modified by blackversaatl at 4:37 PM 5/8/2007

hmmm haha a hemi? That is like me saying I beat a Mustang Cobra. This guy was not racing you, all he did was go a lil faster than normal. So I will be the first to flame on you. Have a race with any of the hemii down by my work. There is a shop next to us that does nothing but Hemii vehicles, and fix em up and dyno em. AWWW the sound of that engine and exhaust!

[proxim2020]

Although it's rare, I'm going with clisped on this one. I know my 5.7L HEMI at 5,000 lbs can be out a V Now a 5.7 3700 lbs 300c, that would make my HEMI go into a nervous sweat I wouldn't be surprised if you raced 2.7L with HEMI badges

[BBISHOPPCM]

For that matter, I blew the doors off a Dodge Viper in my 1987 Nissan D21 pickup (2WD, 4 cyl, auto, flat black) I gunned it while he was just idling by, but I won dammit! Man, I love the sound of those old Nissan NAPS-Z engines... cliklicklicklickclick...

[blackversaatl]

I used to have a 2005 300C. I know about the Hemis. Stock, they can be beat up top up to a certain speed. It was a Hemi, I could CLEARLY hear the Hemi V8 through the exhaust. No V6 there.

Also, how come no one doubted the Audi getting beat, but not the Hemi? Both cars should have ROASTED the V, even from a Hwy roll up to whatever speed.

Why is it that, on EVERY car forum, people always doubt when the so called slower car beats the known faster car? Faster cars get beat by slower cars all the time (cause of mods, etc)

Now if that Charger was modded, different story. He would have left me in the dust. If that Charger was an SRT8, same thing, it would have looked like I was going backwards!

Anyway, he was racing me. I heard him floor it and KNOW what it sounds like since I USED to have a Hemi. Besides, 120 plus mph is NOT just casually hitting the gas. The regular stock Hemis ain't that damn fast, I know, I used to have one. My modded GTP Grand Prix could dust it (Hemi 300C) up top all the time.

U forgot one thing.

My best friend with an 06 Altma 3.5SE will tell you, the Versa is faster than they say it is. Or at least mine is. Mine is getting faster too after breaking it in more (7,400 miles)

I can beat him up top EVERY TIME, from any speed, up til I hit 120 or so, then he'll catch back up and pass me because of the higher top speed. Even from a dig, I can walk him, and YES he floors it and YES he's races me. If he gets the jump, I can still match his pull and still walk up on him. I'd say it's ONLY because of the CVT gearing. I would get killed if I had an auto, and I guess up top, it's virtually the same in the manual as the CVT.

Do you all not doubt that a VQ (3.5) is capable of taking down a Hemi? And yet I can take him down everytime?

I NEVER SAID the Hemi couldn't beat me if we kept going. DUH, it can hit a higher top speed and will eventually leave me in the dust.

BUT

A hwy roll up to 120, I will get them good every time.

U all make it sound like I said that a Versa can beat a Hemi all out. Of course NOT! Duh!

BTW, the BMW X5 WAS racing me. We were going the same direction for a long time. He tried to burn me, but dropped his moth like when he saw me walking back on him.

OF COURSE if we kept going ALL OUT, he would beat me. DUH, the V can't go past 120-125 for the most part. That Bimmer will EASILY hit 140 + and then blow by me.

The V is ONLY good for short runs, up to certain speeds. All out runs against higher powered vehicles and OF COURSE the V will get left behind.

My dealer service manager doesn't doubt it either. He said it's because of the gearing in the CVT.

Also, U all forgot about the Siphon Versa. It was keeping Jackson Racing Honda Fits, and RSX VTEC swapped Honda Fits at bay as well. A Lotus Elise couldn't even pass the V, and the V wasn't really modded other than suspension wise. I think it had I/E and I'm not even sure it had headers.

Technically, there's NO WAY a V could even hang with those cars in that form, without a Turbo.....but it did more than that! See below

http://www.turn3creative.com/versa.html

Modified by blackversaatl at 4:34 PM 5/10/2007
Modified by blackversaatl at 4:36 PM 5/10/2007

[Clipsed]

I used to have a 2005 300C. I know about the Hemis. Stock, they can be beat up top.

Why is it that, on EVERY car forum, people always doubt when so called slower car beats the known faster car?

Now if that Charger was modded, different story.

Any, he was racing me. I heard him floor it and KNOW what it sounds like since I USED to have a Hemi.

U forgot one thing.

My best friend with an 06 Altma 3.5SE will tell you, the Versa is faster than they say it is. Or at least mine is. Mine is getting faster too after breaking it in more (7,400 miles)

I can beat him up top EVERY TIME, from any speed, up til I hit 120 or so, then he'll catch back up and pass me because if the higher top speed. Even from a dig, I can walk him, and YES he floors it and YES he's races me. Do you all not doubt that a VQ (3.5) is capable of taking down a Hemi?

I NEVER SAID the Hemi couldn't beat me if we kept going. DUH, it can hit a higher top speed and will eventually leave me in the dust.

BUT

A hwy roll up to 120, I will get them good every time.

U all make it sound like I said that a Versa can beat a Hemi all out. Of course NOT! Duh!

Too funny!! If my V and my 01 Mustang GT 4.6 liter V8 convertible were placed side by side rolling at 60 mph both being stock, and we both floored it, I know for a fact that my Mustang will take off way before the V would, and that is a 4.6!!!! So don't tell me that that Charger floored it and did not take you. I will put my GT up against your V anyday, and I gaurantee that I will take you!!! I'm sorry but statistically speaking, there was no way you beat him in an actual full on lets go, unless of course he was not racing but just decided to go a lil faster! lol

I bet you were basically like these foos in there little POS V6 lolz! I would not think for a second if you are the guys friend filming this video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...earch=

AHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[blackversaatl]

Too bad u aren't in Ga, cause I would have to prove you wrong. U think um scared to race your 4.6 GT? But I bet it's not even stock. If it isn't, it BETTER kill the V. Talking smack like that without knowing for sure is how a Northstar 4.6 got walked up top by my slow *** V LOL

Talking smack like that without knowing for sure is also how people loose bets.

UR V is slow.

Mine isn't. I have the fastest V in town. I may have to get up with the guy here in Athens just to prove it.

I never said that it can beat everything, I've had 12 second cars before, and know what speed is.

That Hemi WAS racing me. I know how Hemi's pull since I had one. Again, if that Hemi was MODDED, it would KILL me. But it was STOCK. That's for the guy who said come by the shop that mods Hemis.

Haven't watched the vid, will look at it now.

[Clipsed]

Too bad u aren't in Ga, cause I would have to prove you wrong. U think um scared to race your 4.6 GT? Is it an 99-05 or an 06 +? That's how a Northstar 4.6 got walked up top by my slow *** V LOL

UR V is slow.

Mine isn't. I have the fastest V in town. I may have to get up with the guy here in Athens just to prove it.

I never said that it can beat everything, I've had 12 second cars before, and know what speed is.

That Hemi WAS racing me. I know how Hemi's pull since I had one. Again, if that Hemi was MODDED, it would KILL me. But it was STOCK. That's for the guy who said come by the shop that mods Hemis.

Haven't watched the vid, will look at it now.

Too bad you don't know your Mustangs, as 05+ is the new body style not 06+ lol, I think you are feeling yourself a little too much on your V, they are pretty sweet cars and all, but they are not fast like you are saying. Just relax, because you are feeling yourself way too much, and just realized why. lol