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Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:31 pm
A little review.
I purchased front and rear DC Sports CS-2 STBs. The rears arrived but the fronts are still on their way.
I purchased both from JEGS. Overall descent service but I'm not 100% satisfied as there was some confusion, delay and a hidden fees.
I ended up paying 75 Canadian dollars extra on top of the apparently discounted 'on sale' price. Came to a total of 254.72 Canadian dollars, both front and rear + shipment. They shipped them in separate boxes... and for some reason the other one was being held at Ohio 'shipment exception' by fedex, hence not having it yet. It should arrive on Monday hopefully.
They got my shipping info also a little messed up, but they corrected it after I saw the tracking was incorrect. Tracking is a beatiful service I can not live without on online sales. FedEX Tracking = thumbs up. I just didn't like the wait until they shipped the item, 3 days plus asking me after for extra fees through email. Only after I made the order giving me a sort of markup price. Handling fee (putting in a box!??), shipping fee (okay...), brokerage fee (? My money taken for ?).
Just to mention, I have a stripped car about 300lbs down (i have a list of all the parts and their weights added up/calced) + kyb and stech spring shock combo running 4/4 front and 8/8 rear settings. New LCAs, new balljoints on everything (a year old) all whiteline polyurethane bushings on everything including new swaybar endlinks, crappy moog inner/outer tie rods which are bent/crapped.
Now onto the product.
Overall aesthetics-wise, awesome quality, very beefy, one piece, no bolt-business, looks and feels really nice. Makes you feel its heavier than it is when you look at it, but when you pick it up, its fairly light. Definetely 5lbs~ or so, and well according to FedEX again 7lbs
I had a few fitment issues, it was a VERY tight fit, but again it has to hold tight, so that's something I would want to expect, however... it was kind of... 'bent' but not really bent, more like, not properly shaped but then again this is my first STB install, so what do I know. It was more upwards when fitted onto the blots, not a smooth fit. A light tap with hammer made both ends pop in and then slightly flattened onto the tower. It fit fine, then torqued properely it was mega tight. Easy 5minutes installation not even. (4 12mm bolts off, light tapping, 4 12mm bolts back on - done).
Now onto the 'feeling' review. To put it simple the STB is awesome I never realized something so 'insignificant' could make a difference. I could immediately feel a difference. I am overly sensitive to any and all changes on my car, perhaps more so than others who are perhaps more desynthesized than I'm accustomed to. I can feel every single vibration, change, whatever. Even as I was backing up in the parking lot, no I kid you not I could feel a difference in the rear.
I could feel that my shocks were working better, there was less wobble and laziness in movement. Even what seems to be my messed up differential or transmission mounts when putting into gear (making the car jump) is now nearly non apparent.
Made the car feel alot more responsive, the rear grips and holds better, yes... it actually does. There used to be a wobble and hop when I hit the throttle from a stop, now there was none, the car spun and propelled forwards with surprisingly less noise in the rear, it was smooth.
It doesn't slide in a wobbly fashion when turning wheel left/right and cornering. I know theoretically making the rear end stiffer should result in oversteer however, it was not so apparent and in fact making the rear more solid made the front end's understeer more apparent. I need thicker swaybars to play with all that though. Another topic. What does happen is the rear stays really flat now in a corner, giving me a more enjoyable and predictable ride, no shaky wobble that I previously felt. It's pure awesomeness!
There are no noises that were previously heard in the rear. The car feels more comfortable in a way too, or at least psychologically, its still a very stiff ride, but the noises previously experienced made it sound like the whole car was cracking/breaking over holes/cracks in road, even small cracks on the road. None of that now. I specifically tested this out by going over certain cracks, bumpbs and humps on the road that I usually go over.
At higher speeds with more than extra necessary throttle applied when on purpose pushed, it slides alright, but MAN does it slide smoothly. It used to also have a sort of wobble, shaky feel when I wanted to slide it at fast speeds, now there is literally none of that. It feels so mean crazy flat... very smooth.
The shocks seems to be working more efficiently and the tires seem to be planting grippier now when cornering. Very controllable, predictable, smoother, it's one of the best upgrades in a while for me I can only imagine how the car will be with a roll cage. This alone gave the car a new car feel.
Can't wait until the fronts arrive and I still have to install the nismo power brace, yashio factory front tension braces, yanack solid metal steering rack bushings to install, which I will on Wednesday.
I am quite excited, but unfortnuately I'm rather busy working... so takes me time to do it all.
I still .... need to buy spl tension rods and the pro tie rods... I have emailed about them again today... get them back in production SPL please... I've been waiting since june.
I need the steering column metal bushing eliminator as I was screwed over and wasted 3 weeks through LS Automotive (complete waste of money and time, but at least paypal reimbursed me and is going to give them crap for bad service).
Quite excited to have an upgrade on the car after almost a year (I don't count the HP+ pads as a big deal upgrade as much as the suspension and chassis bits im getting now). Oh and... BRAKING felt better, the rear didn't feel wobbly when braking either.
One of the biggest problems was this sense of wobbliness and shakiness in the rear. This is totally gone now.
Take that 16 year old car!
Modified by a_ahmed at 6:55 PM 8/18/2007