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  S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace


Finally ready!

These front strut / firewall braces were designed and engineered specifically for the purpose of increasing the rigidity of the cowl and front suspension areas on the S13.

Developed for the 240sx Convertible, they are equally effective at reducing front end flexion on the Coupe and Hatch, while allowing full access to the top of your engine. Valve cover removal can be done without removing the FSTB.

In addition, they are situated to transfer and distribute strut tower loads evenly across the firewall and bulkhead, increasing suspension flatness.

Manufactured from thick-walled mild steel tubing, with CNC-cut mounting plates and gusseted welds and joints, you won't find a beefier strut brace on the market. PERIOD.

Finish is a high-quality satin black powdercoat that's been professionally applied to resist chipping, scratching and flaking.

Note: Drilling of the firewall (two holes) is required. Installation is fairly simple and should take less than an hour with normal hand tools.

SAY NO TO CRAPPY EBAY STRUT BRACES!!!!



Modified by rotorimp at 7:25 AM 9/15/2007

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Is it necessary to reinforce the firewall at the mounting points?



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No. The steel is fairly thick there, and the forces are distributed with the direction of the firewall metal.



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 « Re: S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace (rotorimp)


Freaking SCORE! That looks awesome Jason. This just went to the top of my list for stuff for my 'vert. I'll put one on my hatch too as soon as I get the wiring sorted out.



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You have to drill two holes in the firewall to install this right? I'll have to find a means of doing that before I even think about ordering...




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so uh what engine is going in that 240

i see some heavy mount pod modification on the crossmember

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Very nice...



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Well Jason, you truly are a master fabricator, finally a strut brace that is better then the others and will fit around my RB before I get a front facing IM! Great Work!



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Quote, originally posted by Loki »
You have to drill two holes in the firewall to install this right? I'll have to find a means of doing that before I even think about ordering...
Would you have to remove the dash to drill your holes and not hit stuff? I like it btw and will have to get after I finish the brake upgrade.
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Hey man, I want one. How much shipped to Toronto Canada?

And I am also concerned about drilling the firewall. Do the brake and clutch line need to be relocated? And does it come with the hardware to mount the bar to the firewall?



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 « Re: S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace (rotorimp)


Very nice, I will be ordering one of these soon. I've got an RB and it looks like it should clear.

It's unny though. I was just talking to the guys in our abrication shop, like a week ago, about making one very similar to this. Guess there is no need to use up my favors when I can just buy one. Thanks.

Just out of curiousity, how thick is "thick walled mild steel tubing" ?




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in a few weeks, i shall be ordering one myself. thanks jason!



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Hello all,

Drilling the two holes in the fire wall is very easy--you do have to remove the plastic just above it to get to the back side. They can be installed in about 20 min. just because you have to put it on-mark the holes and drill them. Nothing else has to be removed or changed. We did notice with some aftermarket suspension. that you have to lower one of the struts to get it on--just because they are made to very tight tolerances and I didn't want to mess up any threads on the struts. these bars also come very close to the hood. If your all stock you will be fine but some of the carbon fiber hoods come down closer and you might have to put some washers on the hinge. The wall thickness on the tubes is .095" and currently it is up to the buyer for the hardware to attach it to the firewall. Any other questions please post them.

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Nice work Jason. I saw it when you posted up on welding web. On there you mention that there is no interfearance with top mount turbos, is that still the case?




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YES Sir--That was the main reason for builbing them. Seems like there are endless strut bars that go across the motor but none that are able to clear the big turbo's, LS1's ect...
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I just saw these in person this week and they look great! Now I need to get on the template for S14!

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As of today we have 6 Left.
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How much do they weigh compared to the competition?
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They're significantly heavier than those sissy ebay bars, I'm guessing 5-6 lbs..

FWIW, I can flex a Cusco bar with my hands, and I'm not a real strong guy.

This thing is beefy.

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will it clear s13 sr20det with 3 nismo mounts?

my cusco barely clears



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this is definitely a fine piece of work. i gotta get me one.




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We made them VERY strong--they actually weigh 10lbs. You can NOT twist them by hand. If you look at the pictures they run very close to the fire wall as not to get in the way of any engine combo.
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Do you plan on making more of these (and possibly one for the rear?). I want one, but I have other things to do first.
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Why doesn't it use all 3 bolts on the strut tower?
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Hopefully you'll have 1 left after the 15(payday).

And please do make a matching rear STB

Looks like the holes would be difficult to drill with the engine in?

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Quote, originally posted by ishkabibble »
Why doesn't it use all 3 bolts on the strut tower?

Because it's rigid, making it near impossible to install without dropping your struts... Don't want people to damage the threads on the strut studs!

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Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »

Because it's rigid, making it near impossible to install without dropping your struts... Don't want people to damage the threads on the strut studs!

that makes sense, I was wondering the same thing

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There was no real advantage to the third bolt. The two bolts properly torqued down are sufficient--plus it gives our bar a unique look.

And Yes as long as there is a demand we will produce them. In fact Dan has me convinced to do a s14 run.

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Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
Because it's rigid

I see. Thanks, Greg, didn't think of installation.

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paypal sent!

Now make a rear one, lol!

Preferably one that ties into the strut towers and the bottom of the trunk!

....please?

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How much for one of these??
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To order via PayPal - rotorimp@yahoo.com $150 shipped.

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Datsun2401972--Your bar is in the mail.

We might be able to do a one off--would you want it weld in or bolt in?

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hmm, bolt on for the strut mounts.

If there was gonna be some kind of crossbrace to the strut tower sidewall or the bottom of the trunk you could simply put a flange with no holes and I could weld it or drill it if I wanted.

But really, I don't wanna trouble you too much for the "one off" thing....you just need to mass produce a rear bar too lol!

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Damn... i just bought dc sports front and rear strut bars They are actually IN THE MAIL... lol.

How do these compare to dc sports strut bars front and rear? Having two more points i guess would be better but hey.. ah well sigh... Apparently the dc sports ones are 7lbs each if anyone cares to know...

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Sorry to here that--We are going to make a heat shield and brace for the master cylinder.
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Quote, originally posted by rotorimp »
Sorry to here that--We are going to make a heat shield and brace for the master cylinder.
How much! I was going to buy the Megan shield in the next few weeks (I have jury duty starting next week, seriously cutting into my budget but a great civic duty)
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Recieved my bar today!!!

Looks awesome, thanks for a great buy!

Let me know about the heat sheild and MC brace(will it work for those with the z32 brake master cylinder?).

Keep me informed about a rear bar too please!!!

lol, I spent $250 on a welding machine so I could do this for myself..but at this price for the quality I might as well buy it already done.

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 « Re: S13 Front Strut / Firewall Brace (rotorimp)


@RotorPimp / Jason,

Will this fit an S13 Coupe + R33 Xmember + NISMO mounts + RB25?

Yeah, Odd question :-\ I'm currently using the stock IM so clearances are tight I plan on getting a different IM "soon" but that is still a ways off :-\ I am already planning on shimming my hood for clearance, so that should not be an issue. Currently using the stock hood sans skeleton.

I *think* the Cusco STB will fit -- a friend has it and I can test, if that helps. I have been looking for a better solution for a while. Thanks!

*edit*
Also, how much for a MC heat shield?



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since you don't need to go behind the firewall/in front of the dash, i'm assuming you use screws to secure it to the firewall? or can you place nuts there with access from the vents?

also, is there adequate clearance should i need to fiddle with/replace the bmc or cmc? i can't tell very well from the pics.

i will defintely put an order in if i like the answers i get.

thanks.




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