What a bunch of crybabies...

[PoorManQ45]

Last I checked, Carnival Cruise Lines doesn't have a Superman on their staff to fly around the world and rewind the one week of time that was spent aboard the ship. Being compensated with free tickets for a future cruise is one thing, but having the ability to actually utilize those tickets is why most people are voicing their complaints.
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The only thing I can say is that I hope that the tickets don't expire for ~5 years. This should cover the lack of time concern.

[themadscientist]

Could have been worse.

[AZhitman]

I don't know the details of this.

Carnival should obviously refund every dime, but assuming they do that, I don't see any reason beyond that for the passengers to complain.

You paid for an experience, you don't get it, you get a refund. ~fin~

Last I checked, Carnival Cruise Lines doesn't have a Superman on their staff to fly around the world and rewind the one week of time that was spent aboard the ship. Being compensated with free tickets for a future cruise is one thing, but having the ability to actually utilize those tickets is why most people are voicing their complaints.

These individuals do not have the freedom to take another week off their work/caretaking/etc. So, while Carnival made an effort to compensate them, most will not have the opportunity to take advantage of that compensation.

That's the point that most of you seem to be missing.

That's not Carnival's problem.

What if each and every one of them is coincidentally stricken with the Aboriginal Strain of Bovine Buttleak Flu as soon as they set foot on-board the ship again? What if there's Biblical rain every single day of their "replacement" vacation? What if they all die before they get a chance to go on another cruise?

Are they gonna blame Carnival for that too?

Because they're ALL issues that are out of the company's control.

People need to realize that s*** happens, and their whining doesn't change it. Ever. Period.

[AZhitman]

That's not Carnival's problem.

Considering that it was Carnival's Cruise Ship that caught on fire and wasted a week of these people's time, yes, it is their problem.

Lesson in paying attention: I didn't say that. I said, it's not Carnival's problem that these people think they can't take time off later to use their reimbursement vacation.

They were compensated for every penny they spent - Travel-related expenses AND the cost of the cruise. PLUS they were offered another cruise for free.

Carnival went above and beyond. To restate: Their schedules are NOT Carnival's problem.

p.s. Disagree at will. But don't wag your finger at me. I'm twice your age, with twice your education, and twice your experiences, and I'd appreciate at least that small measure of respect.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

p.s. Disagree at will. But don't wag your finger at me. I'm twice your age, with twice your education, and twice your experiences, and I'd appreciate at least that small measure of respect.

But...but... He's some little peon at his daddy's company! He'll start talking about how he'll shoot up the corporate ladder while you're stuck making peanuts being a working schmo.

[Alfador]

Waivers almost always apply ONLY to things completely outside the entity's control, and often not even then. It's all bailment law. Once someone voluntarily assumes custodianship, they are taking responsibility for its safe and intact return. It's actually been held up in courts that a valet company is responsible, even if the valets didn't do it, because they actually took possession of the vehicle. In a self-park garage on the other hand, it's usually more likely to be valid, but if they commit to something (like say a live security guard) and then don't follow through (guard is asleep or left his post when thieves come) it could easily tip it back in your favor again. It depends on the state/city but fine print is worth jack s*** if what it describes amounts to an invalid/illegal contract. I can trick someone into signing a piece of paper that says they want to give me $500 because I'm such a nice guy, but it is invalid because there is no consideration on their part.

Some areas are specifically allowed though. In most states it is specifically allowed that people waive liability with informed consent in knowingly dangerous or unpredictable situations, such as dealing with live animals or something that is supposed to be dangerous like whitewater rafting for example.

As for these people, even if they are entitled to compensation, and I'm not saying they are, they're a bunch of whiny wussbags. Funny thing is, on most cruise lines, due to the Death on the High Seas act, the cruise lines are better off financially if you die than if you just get hurt. I'd like for some of these spoiled wastes of air to tell the Chilean miners they had it rough, or anyone who was in an actual disaster. We had the same problem here in MA when a freaking water main broke. It left multiple towns without water so the numbnuts declared a state of emergency, sicked the attorney general on convenience stores for "price gouging" bottled water (at less than their normal price of $1.50 a bottle, mind you), and used state money to buy his reelection by telling us it was all gonna be alright. Those of us that weren't lazy needy jackasses just boiled water for a few days.

[Jesda]

I read almost none of the posts in this thread.

[Watermelonwarrior]

I read almost none of the posts in this thread.

Dude happy late birthday!!

[Jesda]

Oh snap, thanks bro!

[Encryptshun]

Happy belated birthday, Jesda.

Tell you what, if a fire breaks out on your new bike, you can whine to us all you want about it.

[AZhitman]

The only way a fire is gonna break out on Jesda's new bike is if he wears nylon bike shorts and pedals really, really hard.

BTW, +1 on that solid post, Alf.

[Solar_Runner]

Carnival made better than good on the s*** Happens, and they did it fast. Kudos to them.

Those whiners will be bragging it up latter. It's all good after a shower, good meal and a nights rest...

United States Navy, Haze Gray and Underway. They stayed on station keeping them safe - just in case.

PS: I love me some SPAM, no one else in my house will eat it either. That's good, I hate to share.

[Jesda]

Trial lawyers and lawsuits are solely responsible for BMW's sales growth. Its a fact. I can prove it.











[I can't prove it, but I suspect its still true.]

[C-Kwik]

Am I missing something? I didn't come away from that link feeling that a large number of people were demanding undue compensation (or any at all for that matter). Certainly not enough to believe that the majority of 3300 people were "whining".

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

Am I missing something? I didn't come away from that link feeling that a large number of people were demanding undue compensation (or any at all for that matter). Certainly not enough to believe that the majority of 3300 people were "whining".

I thought I was watching the wrong video.
PS. Spam is indeed awesome. It's the best when you go backpacking for a few days. Stick it over a little camp stove...when it pops it's done! It's dense energy.

[C-Kwik]

Spam is Awesome. Spam musubi. Spam, eggs and rice. Spam and rice. Spam in mac and cheese. Spam with ramen. I buy mine at Costco.

[themadscientist]

Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Sausages, and Spam...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE[/youtube]

[IBCoupe]

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[IBCoupe]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6OUmsPA0I[/youtube]

Trial lawyers and lawsuits are solely responsible for BMW's sales growth. Its a fact. I can prove it.











[I can't prove it, but I suspect its still true.]

<This law student is eying a 135...

[Jesda]

his law student is eying a 135...

Gross. 335 or nothing.

[elwesso]

Precisely.... As soon as I heard that I thought "HURRY, BEFORE THE BOOZE GETS WARM"

I was at the Siegfried and Roy show where Roy got "mauled" by a tiger.. They refunded our tickets, but that was definitely a history making situation. Definitely anecdotal in relation to the experience that these people went through on the cruise..

My first thought for those people who were on the cruise was something along the lines of "a good excuse to call into work".. Enjoy the extra days you got on a cruise.. Most people on that cruise survived college on ramen noodles and grilled cheese, you can do it for another few days...

Would I expect a refund? Yeah, I would kind of expect it.. But I would probably be stoked I got a free cruise that was over half good!

Disabled Cruise Ship Survival Guide:

Step 1: Raid bar. Procure several bottles of liquor.

Step 2: Consume liquor.

Steps 3 through 8: Hazy blur of questionable acts with member(s) of opposite gender.

Step 9: Repeat as needed.

[IBCoupe]

his law student is eying a 135...

Gross. 335 or nothing.

Same drivetrain +200 lbs? Nah.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

Gross. 335 or nothing.

Same drivetrain +200 lbs? Nah.

200lbs is worth it to get rid of the potbelly doorstill line.

[Jesda]

Same drivetrain +200 lbs? Nah.

You'd be driving the second-ugliest and BMW in history (X6 wins top prize) while paying full price for it.

Lame.

[AZhitman]

...and getting your doors blown off by sport-model econoboxes.

What a horribly ugly car.

[IBCoupe]

Eh. 3-series coupe was pretty, but where I end up driving, they're a dime a dozen. The 1-series styling reminds me of the traditional BMW styling (at least for the 3-series) - E21 through E46. I prefer my BMWs to look perky.

[Jesda]

Eh. 3-series coupe was pretty, but where I end up driving, they're a dime a dozen. The 1-series styling reminds me of the traditional BMW styling (at least for the 3-series) - E21 through E46. I prefer my BMWs to look perky.

You're disinvited from my party at Chuck E Cheese.

[IBCoupe]

While that is regrettable, it's probably for the best. Awkward animatronics scares the crap out of me.