VH into S-Chassis Swap Kit!

[Mazworx]

Finally finished our setup we been putting off for the last 6 months. We have everything completed to get the motor/trans in the car. The headers have been prototyped and out to production. So those will be completed soon. Here's some pics:

Donor Q45-

Motor ready to go in with our adapter plate

Motor sitting in an S14

Exhaust flanges for our headers that we CNC in house

Custom ground 272 cams that we will be testing

Motor mounts in production

Complete motor mounts on the car

Headers being prototyped

[maxnix]

Very nice. Unfortunately this will start another land rush on S14.

[Carl H]

a few question...how low does the engine sit, lower than th crossmember?are the mounts ac compliant?notching the frame raill will still be required for the alternator no?

[Mazworx]

The oil pan does sit lower than the crossmember and 1/4" off the top of it. The motor mounts do clear the a/c and you will have to notch for the alt and the a/c. We will be providing gusset plates for the kit. We want to make this an OEM type swap where everything still works i.e. p/s and a/c.

[EMK]

ETA on finished ready to ship time frame? Pic request of the parts on an actual s13 as well. Will the kit also be available in pieces for those who wish to take a slightly different approach to the swap. And of course most important of the questions will be price.

The reasons for this swap to gain popularity will be it's low cost to high benefit so I hope that the kit will be priced competitively enough as to cause this swap to gain ground. Then again the kit does have the downside of making the vh as common as oh say the sr...

Nevermind that last sr comment. Just let us know when where and how much with pics of course.

[Mazworx]

Our kit is already available. We are just waiting on the motor mounts to come back from powdercoating. We have not test fitted the motor in an S13, but with our experience with the S13/S14, it will fit the same. But we do want to test it to be 100% sure. Headers are not available yet, we will keep you posted.

Here's the list of parts in our current kit:

Adapter plateMachining to bellhousingCrossmemberMotor MountsShifter BracketShort ShifterAll Necessary HardwareCover Plate for shifter holeOne Piece Steel Driveshaft (can upgrade to aluminum or carbon)Wiring Diagram coming soon.

Please pm me or check out our website for pricing.

[tmorgan4]

Awesome kit!

Do you happen to have a set of factory exhaust manifolds laying around?

[Carl H]

if you need some one to test fit an s13 then mail me at blackboxtuning (at) gmail.com wont be using a z32 trans but fitment in engine bay will be the same in theroy...currently swapping an s13 chassis and we could kill two birds with one stone.

[mdotcarter]

Is there a z32 swap kit in the works?

[kingkilburn]

Are your mounts and subframe compatible with a jdm VH41?

[Mettler]

The answer to that would be no. JDM VH41 has different block casting & different mount hole locations.

[SuperHatch]

[T45]

VH45>VH41

[Mazworx]

We don't have plans on producing a Z32 kit, but if there's enough interest, we will look into it.

[T45]

Mark, you have email regarding work on my Z32 VH. Thanks.

Ben

[Marquinho]

We don't have plans on producing a Z32 kit, but if there's enough interest, we will look into it.

Perhaps you should look into it. Even though there are more S chassis around, the typical owner of these cars are HS or College students and won't have the means to spend that much. Those that have the means, have likely already gone with a SR20DET swap.

I think there is a market for the Z32. I'm 39 and much rather spend my money on a Z32 than a S13 or 14 chassis. I don't have either, but if there was a Z32 kit, I'd buy one just to do the swap and have a kick *** car and I won't be confused for a drifter kid (hey, no offense to anyone, just voicing my opinion).

[T45]

I can see that point, however if you look around the Z32 forum you'll find a lot of teenagers buying these cars as well. Most young owners can't afford to rebuild the car properly so they are going the way of chopped up trash IMO.

A VH swap would turn things around for the Z, making them highly desirable to the people that fell in love with them in high school, like myself. Most gearheads don't want to mess with a V6, it's just not manly enough. The TT v6 is killer, but the VH is an even better platform provided companies such as Mazworx keeps investing in aftermarket parts for them.

After driving my VH powered Z for less than 200 miles I can say that it is truly intoxicating, I am addicted, I don't care how many times I have to rebuild it, it's worth it.

[Marquinho]

Exactly my point - Z32 & VH package is more attractive to older more afluent buyers than a S13 or S14. There is absolutely nothing wrong with teh S chassis - I actually owned 3 before they became "popular".

[Carl H]

t45 - the way you make the power delivery out it sounds like the car should have come equiped with a v8 instead of the 6 it did...i'd imagine with some tweaking a vh z32 would handle loads better than a vg30 car simply due to weight.

[Mettler]

VH45>VH41

[Nycist]

when it comes down to it, here in the states there isnt a more affordable, compact rwd platform to use than a s chassis...more specifically an s13.

loads of aftermarket, light as hell, pure ease of modification, dime a dozen.

its just simple understanding when people want to swap on of the beefiest motors nissan ever made in to one. id personally prefer a 240z...

[nat0Z]

when it comes down to it, here in the states there isnt a more affordable, compact rwd platform to use than a s chassis...more specifically an s13.

loads of aftermarket, light as hell, pure ease of modification, dime a dozen.

its just simple understanding when people want to swap on of the beefiest motors nissan ever made in to one. id personally prefer a 240z...

yea me too, so not selling the already nearly there swap into it!! lolnat0but my mate is thinking about now putting a vh into his s13 silvia and his r32 !!!! talk about intoxicating!!!! he's choking.!!!

[kingkilburn]

I want a jdm 41 for the pulley set up as well as the timing gear. If I did it I would put in a 45 crank for sure though.

[T45]

Any Z32 people interested in a kit should email Maz and let them know. If there is enough interest it could eventually happen!

[Yellow4g63]

Dose the factory exhaust manifold clear the steering shaft? like the other guy said if this swap is done in Cali I can only leave the stock manifolds on the car to make it pass the smog Nazi's.

[Marquinho]

I wonder how much of the S14 kit is a direct fit to the Z32...

Adapter plate - Yes Machining to bellhousing - Yes Crossmember - No Motor Mounts - Yes for the engine, No for the Subframe Shifter Bracket - Yes Short Shifter - Yes All Necessary Hardware - Some may fit Cover Plate for shifter hole - Not needed for the Z32 One Piece Steel Driveshaft (can upgrade to aluminum or carbon) - Already available for the Z32 Wiring Diagram coming soon - No Headers - Yes, should be just fine

So, Mazworx doesn't need to develop that much for the Z32 - mostly the subframe, additional ancillaries and perhaps the wiring harness.

[T45]

With their adapter the only issues with the Z32 are ps pump clearance to the sway bar, oil pan or xmember, and motor mounts. The trans will stay in the stock location. The ps pump can be moved higher in the stock bracket using the stock Z fittings but the sway bar still has to be lowered.

The stock Q manifolds will fit as long as you de-glove the heat shields from them and hack off the cats. After that you can do what I did and cut the stock Z mani's and graph them together. This allows bolting up to the rest of the stock Z exhaust system. MFG some similar log style headers that bolt up to the Z system would be really easy.

The wiring harness has been figured out for the Z, there is a big post on this somewhere around here.

The bonuses are the stock cruise control system works, a/c hasn't been done to my knowledge but I believe it will fit and work with custom hoses, consult works, stock guages work, etc. It's the perfect engine to swap in any nissan due to nissan's "lego" designs.

[KingNub]

quick question how much did the custom ground cams cost you and where did you get them :3

[npez]

I wonder how much of the S14 kit is a direct fit to the Z32...

Adapter plate - Yes Machining to bellhousing - Yes Crossmember - No Motor Mounts - Yes for the engine, No for the Subframe Shifter Bracket - Yes Short Shifter - Yes All Necessary Hardware - Some may fit Cover Plate for shifter hole - Not needed for the Z32 One Piece Steel Driveshaft (can upgrade to aluminum or carbon) - Already available for the Z32 Wiring Diagram coming soon - No Headers - Yes, should be just fine

So, Mazworx doesn't need to develop that much for the Z32 - mostly the subframe, additional ancillaries and perhaps the wiring harness.

Marquinho,

Actually the wiring diagram is already available here on NICO. I know because I posted it! It's complete, has been vetted with other members, and Craig (craigztoyz) has verified it during his conversion. It's called "VH45 to Z32 complete wiring integration document. It's either on the first or second page of the VH45 forum.

I spoke with Mark about the posibility of the Z conversion at some length on the phone, but like Mark said market demand will dictate the production of something turn-key. From experience there are a lot of tweaks to the oil-pan, cross-member, etc. that have to be done so there is some work required as well as a physical car requirement for them to do the work. The exhaust manifolds "may" work but I believe the steering shaft assembly on the Z is positioned slightly differently so the headers would probably need some work as well.

But I agree with you there is a good foundation to start from......

Nick.

[npez]

With their adapter the only issues with the Z32 are ps pump clearance to the sway bar, oil pan or xmember, and motor mounts. The trans will stay in the stock location. The ps pump can be moved higher in the stock bracket using the stock Z fittings but the sway bar still has to be lowered.

The stock Q manifolds will fit as long as you de-glove the heat shields from them and hack off the cats. After that you can do what I did and cut the stock Z mani's and graph them together. This allows bolting up to the rest of the stock Z exhaust system. MFG some similar log style headers that bolt up to the Z system would be really easy.

The wiring harness has been figured out for the Z, there is a big post on this somewhere around here.

The bonuses are the stock cruise control system works, a/c hasn't been done to my knowledge but I believe it will fit and work with custom hoses, consult works, stock guages work, etc. It's the perfect engine to swap in any nissan due to nissan's "lego" designs.

Tyler,

Fully agree with your points. Also, when I get my custom sway bar back, Addco will have the design on file if someone wants to go the same route. My bar will mount on the rear "rails" and come forward versus front to back like the stock one and is fashioned in such a way that the geometry isn't affected. It'll be 3-way adjustable (first hole being stock swaybar rate, second 15% stiffer, and third stiffest or about 30% stiffer than stock).

Also the 1990 (or that generation) P/S pump from a Maxima works very well and has a smaller pulley. Using it frees up a lot of space on the LH side and provides pretty good placement for the plumbing. I've posted some pics in my thread regarding this.

So there are some things that will become more available going forward making it easier for others to do themselves or to bundle into a turn-key solution.....

Thanks,Nick.