VG30DETT into 1989 240SX

[Reno]

when u get a chance can u get a video of the car on idle with hood open with walk around, i love those types of videos "_"

[whitetshirtguy]

I'm studying the wiring for S13, S14 for North America, UK, Europe and Asia and I am talking with a wiring company to do the custom harnesses for the dash and for power and all of the stuff that anybody would need to do this swap. Great stuff takes time, and I'm not gonna rush anything I put out there. The last thing I want is to be known for crappy products that don't work. I may be slow, but at least in the end, I can say I did it right. That goes for the hard stuff , as well. If anybody ends up with the kit from me, they will thank me for taking my time because this swap went from a challenge, to a working example, to almost being released as is, and now to refinement and copyright.

Let it be known that I am doing this all by myself, and I do not have some gigantic research lab and a clock that warps time. Just a small place, good friends, equipment, a main job to fuel all of this stuff plus my own projects and an end goal. If people are disappointed with me, and yeah, it's my fault for being too promising initially, I apologize. As I said in a few posts ago, I have a client that is gonna be here this month with his 240SX, and we will go from there. I'm not gonna rush for any money or promises of fame. That's for amateurs.

didnt try and sound rude i just hadnt read anything bout it in a while and i just want to know what is goin on but you have anwserd my question

[180sxfaktory]

didnt try and sound rude i just hadnt read anything bout it in a while and i just want to know what is goin on but you have anwserd my question

You weren't rude. Sorry for sounding so hardcore. I apologize for this seemingly long process.

[180sxfaktory]

While doing some research tonite, I came across IMSA GTU cars from 15-18 years ago. A team campaigning the Nissan 240SX in America in the IMSA series, Leitzinger Racing, was using a V6 3000cc NA. If you google Leitzinger 240SX, you'll see some pics of the cars, as well as cars from other makes/models. The cars were all wide-body, tube chassis affairs. Just goes to show you that when one thinks they've done something first, someone has already been there and done it. Granted, the cars were all tube-framed. With a tube-frame and a fiberglass shell, you can put any engine in it (with calculated measurements of course).

By taking my working example of VG240 and evolving to the custom tube cross-member/sub-frame for the VG30DE/DETT, at least I am thinking in the right direction. With a tube cross-member, I can ensure that the engine/transmission and driveshaft all line up properly by being able to raise/lower the engine in an effort to ensure that the power produced does not get wasted and gets transmitted to the rear more efficiently. Another benefit by doing this, I am allowing for more room, as well as widening the scope of engines that can be placed in the S13/S14 chassis.

[EMK]

I know you have business to run and stuff to to but there was a hint at doing the VQ35 swap into an s13 I really would like to find out more about what's going on with this concept . I myself just recently got my 240 and I want to do this swap plus a 6 speed transmission and possibly later on upgrade to TT. You know 350Z/ GTR powertrain. I have time to wait and save I just wanna know if you have any plans of doing this one.

[fayceoff]

here you go. 8 pages of it.zerothread?id=207033

[whitetshirtguy]

ok well i just bought a 90 nissan d12 hardbaody and the vg30e will bolt in to those truck which has the same motor as a 240 so if those two motors bolt in to a truck and we have the the same motor in a 240 then what is stoping the vg to bolt right in as well to a 240

[MeanGreenS13]

oilpan, kframe, transmission mount etc

[whitetshirtguy]

oilpan, kframe, transmission mount etc

so uhh you tellin me that a fire wrench and a welder can fix that lil problem what about the motor mounts could i use the ones off the truck or would they have to be fabed as well

[fayceoff]

I met with Dale yesterday and gave him the deposit for my Z32 half-cut. I went and looked at the shop, and while they don't have much by way of space and high-tech tools, they are doing big things there. There's an S14 Silvia with a 2JZ-GTE swap and I believe a T70 turbo, a first-gen Supra with a 1JZ-GTE swap, as well as an FD being rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. I'm very impressed with both Dale and the other guys in the garage. I just received word today that my car has arrived here in Bahrain, but unfortunately I have to go out on a mission in a matter of hours and I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you guys posted as things get done with my project - I'm calling it the Mayhem FairladySX. Look for a new thread when I get back and take some before pictures as things get rolling.

[midnightsky]

Hi, I am new here, and also a new driver. Currently driving some garbage 93? saturn that is manual. Is this project still alive? Because I am extremely interested in it, as I can get a s13 for probably 500$ with a bad motor. And this swap looks very promising, and it seems vg30detts are cheaper then SRs and Rbs. Assuming they are because there isnt the demand.

[midnightsky]

sorry for double post

Ok, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me?

[kouki munster]

sorry for double post

Ok, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me?

$300 +/- $50

[midnightsky]

Yeah... I had thought around there...I won't be starting this project probably till next spring or summer...as I don't have enough right now. I have been reading though on swaps for a long time, and this is easily the best one yet.

I found this one website that sells vg30dett's. They have two different ones. One with just the engine, and one with a bit more stuff, like the ECU. Do I have to get a half cut? Because don't know if I can.

Here is the link, will this do? Will I have to buy anything else? http://www.japanmotorimport.co...90-95

Thanks for helping a automotive noob out >_>

[komete]

With the Kit that you will be offering in the summer, will it work for an S14?

[Big-Bird]

Seeing that you folks are so well versed on the VG30DETT. Is there someone in here who might have the dimensional specs on this motor?

Width across the top at the intakes?Overall Length at the top.Overall depth intakes to the oil pan.Estimates are ok but I would prefer 'as close as possible' numbers in inches please.

I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion.

Thanks in advance!

[MeanGreenS13]

if the VG30E fit in the pathfinder, shouldnt the DETT fit in the 4cyl hardbodies?

[Tarnag40k]

uh, no (well not without a huge amount of cutting and custom fab) because the VG30E is significantly thinner then the DE(TT), not only does the DE have those huge dual-cam heads but those Manifolds are a lot wider, and the exhaust manifolds sit out farther because of the heads, just comparing pics can show you that, my Hardbody has a VG30E in it and there isn't that much room left near the fenders. We need the measuremets still.
Modified by Tarnag40k at 7:21 PM 5/13/2007

[Big-Bird]

The DETT is wider where it counts, The exhaust manfolds that are piped to the turbos might make the fitment into the narrow confines of a D21 somewhat problematic. The D21 is narrow by comparison to a 300 but how much narrower remains anyones guess. ONly because no-one has posted any specs for comparison purposes. I do know the DETT will fit into a 240 and a 510 with some shoehorning. Saw the images myself so it can be done. But knowing the specific dimensions of the assembled DETT would take some of the guess work out of doing a successful D21 conversion.

[240sxvaj]

NICE! i like!

[whitetshirtguy]

Seeing that you folks are so well versed on the VG30DETT. Is there someone in here who might have the dimensional specs on this motor?

Width across the top at the intakes?Overall Length at the top.Overall depth intakes to the oil pan.Estimates are ok but I would prefer 'as close as possible' numbers in inches please.

I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion.

Thanks in advance!

i have a s14 and a d21 and i would like to put a vg30dett in both but no one is saying anything about the kit for the s14 at all and i would like to know something about it and if someone has a idea about putting it in a d21 or has done it i would like to see pics

[soulflyfn69]

now all you need is this turbo upgrade http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...sting 760+ hp :-)

[fayceoff]

I met with Dale yesterday and gave him the deposit for my Z32 half-cut. I went and looked at the shop, and while they don't have much by way of space and high-tech tools, they are doing big things there. There's an S14 Silvia with a 2JZ-GTE swap and I believe a T70 turbo, a first-gen Supra with a 1JZ-GTE swap, as well as an FD being rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. I'm very impressed with both Dale and the other guys in the garage. I just received word today that my car has arrived here in Bahrain, but unfortunately I have to go out on a mission in a matter of hours and I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you guys posted as things get done with my project - I'm calling it the Mayhem FairladySX. Look for a new thread when I get back and take some before pictures as things get rolling.

Here it is - the beginning. zerothread?id=254507

[Hughretro]

very nice, what a awsume swap.

[Matchbox]

What ever happen to mass producing this swap kit?

[180sxfaktory]

What ever happen to mass producing this swap kit?

Coming right after FAYCEOFF's debuts for you in August. I think a client who can tell you all of the pluses and minuses of this swap will do a lot for educating the potential clients who do want this.

[180sxfaktory]

Ok! Here we go! FAYCEOFF's 1998 GCZ32 VG30DETT half cut was unloaded today. Here's a few pics of the the swap. Things are going to start going hard and steady, so sit back and enjoy as I take a 240SX and build one for FAYCEOFF. Again, I am gonna let him do the talking from time to time, but as with all works, once I am focused, I tend to knock people out of the way and will from time to time post up on this to let you guys hear it from me. Once it is done, I will let him make an assessment and post up here the honest feelings of it. If it's cherry, it's cherry. If not, then it's my reputation, but I am always shooting for success. As for what and how and measurements and what comes before this and that... sorry, I am not divulging that. You will have to buy the kit once it debuts after this build.

[Jyon9689]

Alright, sweet.

Are you sourcing a manual transmission, because from the pics the front-cut Z32 looks like an automatic

[Zee]

Hey I was the one that emailed you about it. Thanks for the update looking forward to it!

[Kraelic]

The guy having the swap done is wanting an automatic. check out his link to project mayhem fairlady sx

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