Tipping is getting outrageous anymore

[NolimitZ32]

^This is why I make it a point to ASK if the server has to tipshare and then if the server provided me with awesome service I find a way to tip them directly, from there its on them if they actually share out of what I gave them for them specifically.

[Dattebayo]

That sounds illegal to me. And I've never heard of that, ever.

[Looneybomber]

"Hey, do you tip share?"
"Yes."
"That sucks, because you've been great and deserve extra."
"Well thanks, blah blah blah."
"I'll give you $200 if you come home with me."
...Seems legit.

[NolimitZ32]

Bahaha good one, but its more like:
"Do you tip share?"
"Yes"
"Well in that case here is a tip on the card equal to my satisfaction with the food _________. & this is for you, cash, thank you for the great service."

[float_6969]

I think until you work as a waiter or bartender or valet, you won't understand why the tips are so important. I agree tip jars behind the counters of coffee shops and the like seem wrong, but there's no law that says you MUST put in a tip if you see one of those jars. But you are a worm if you go to an establishment, like a restaurant with wait service that includes tipping and skip the tipping.

I know there are some bad waiters/waitresses out there that don't deserve tips but it's wrong to condemn them all based on a few bad apples. If you have that big an issue tipping, then don't go to places that have it.

<tips well.

I've worked in food service and it is a THANKLESS job. I honestly think EVERYONE should have to serve tables for 6 months before being allowed to eat at a restaurant. My usual tip is 20%. 25% if they're awesome, 15% if they sucked. Some of my friends (Looney, I'm looking at you buddy ) are cheap-asses, and I often over tip when eating out with them because I know they're cheap-asses, LOL!!!

I wouldn't do all of this if I didn't know how s*** of a job it was, and how much it could get you through the night to get a big azz tip from a great table.

[WDRacing]

I never served food, I hate people far too much. I have washed dishes though...an equally suck job. I made min wage at least.

I tip well. My wife and I usually do 20% as a minimum and extra if I never have to ask for a refill etc. Sometimes the wait staff are just friendly and generally lend to an overall good dining experience. These people deserve good tips.

Give what you can, when you can.

I wouldn't do all of this if I didn't know how s*** of a job it was, and how much it could get you through the night to get a big azz tip from a great table.

^Agreed^

Maybe you're helping someone save for that turbo kit they've always wanted.

[IBCoupe]

words
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but damn sure dont jip those you serve you.

Just so you know, it's "gyp," and it's a slur.

[float_6969]

like gypsy?

[Dattebayo]

Have you ever been ripped off by a gypsy?

[float_6969]

No, but I've never met one either. Not meaning to be disrespectful, I just saw a correlation there and was curious about the origin of the word.

[WDRacing]

gyp also gip (jp) Slang
tr.v. gypped also gipped, gyp·ping also gip·ping, gyps also gips
To deprive (another) of something by fraud; cheat or swindle.
n.
1. A fraud or swindle.
2. One who defrauds; a swindler.

Wouldn't call it a slur unless you're the type of person the screams "that's racist" constantly.

[sharjt]

Every restaurant I know of in AZ does this. We did it in WA also. They do it so they can charge the customer less on the food they order. Also, I have to tip out a bunch of different people. If I'm serving, I have to tip out the bartender for every drink they make one of my customers. I have to tip out bussers, food runners, and also have to tip out teppanyaki chefs. You'd be amazed how much money I lose when I tip out at the end of the night.

This true for another reason not mentioned. The restaurant has to declare how much it is paying you for tax purposes based on your sales. So, if 10% of what you sell does not equal minimum wage, they have to reimburse you that amount minus the hourly wage you are making. Which also comes around too how you much you are declaring for your taxes. The restaurant has to submit a W2 with how much you made, being based on tips they have no idea (before credit card use was so prevalent) so they would average that you made 10% of your sales and that’s what the server is taxed.

I’ve done everything in restaurant from dishwash to manage and if you don’t tip your server / bartender you are the scum of the earth. If you frequent the same restaurants often, you are known as a bad tipper and probably should start tipping or stop eating there.

[Dattebayo]

If you really wanna get technical, the word "gypsy" is a slur also. So yeah, moving along...

On the flip side, let's be honest about one thing guys: most servers are gonna make a decent amount even without the tip money from just the cheap bastards who don't tip well. Sure, there are off nights and certain places where NObody tips, but let's not fool anyone that you are hurting all the time (or that you have to stay with that one job). The servers who complain about what they get tipped are worse than the worst scum who don't tip, IMO. Even though you count on the money, it's still considered a "tip" or "gratuity", it is not called a "server tax". You can find a labor job elsewhere that doesn't pay that way if you wanted to.

[Looneybomber]

Some of my friends (Looney, I'm looking at you buddy ) are cheap-asses, and I often over tip when eating out with them because I know they're cheap-asses, LOL!!!

LOL. I like to say I'm frugal.

Back in the day, I used to tip fairly. I tipped a dollar for each plate brought out and a dollar for each drink. Why? 1 plate = 1 unit of work and 1 drink = 1 unit of work. It would be unfair to give someone a $16.50 tip because you ordered a $50 plate and 3 glasses of $20 wine; they did 4 units of work. On the flip side, if you go to a mexican place, have free chips and salsa, $5 tacos, and 5 refills of water, you shouldn't tip $0.75 because they did 6 units of work plus the chips and salsa.

Anymore, I'm too lazy to keep track of all that and go off the 10/15/20% scale; 10% if the service was ok, 15% if it was good, 20% if I've been drinking too much.

[float_6969]

The "unit" tipping method is news to me. An interesting way to do it, but as you said, too much work for me.

[themadscientist]

I have found that strippers are demanding unreasonable denominates to smile between their legs at me. How do we reverse this trend?

[Looneybomber]

I have found that strippers are demanding unreasonable denominates to smile between their legs at me. How do we reverse this trend?

Men would have to grow vaginas and women would have to run the world.

[themadscientist]

No thanks. Too much maintenance and I wouldn't get anything done because I would be at home all day playing with my boobs.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

LOL. I like to say I'm frugal.

Back in the day, I used to tip fairly. I tipped a dollar for each plate brought out and a dollar for each drink. Why? 1 plate = 1 unit of work and 1 drink = 1 unit of work. It would be unfair to give someone a $16.50 tip because you ordered a $50 plate and 3 glasses of $20 wine; they did 4 units of work. On the flip side, if you go to a mexican place, have free chips and salsa, $5 tacos, and 5 refills of water, you shouldn't tip $0.75 because they did 6 units of work plus the chips and salsa.

Anymore, I'm too lazy to keep track of all that and go off the 10/15/20% scale; 10% if the service was ok, 15% if it was good, 20% if I've been drinking too much.

Are you old as s*** or have I been living under a rock all my life? Unit tipping? Wtf....

But yeah, as said ^, I hope you don't frequent the same restaurants tipping 10-15%.

I've worked in food service and it is a THANKLESS job. I honestly think EVERYONE should have to serve tables for 6 months before being allowed to eat at a restaurant.

Restaurants suck.

In my opinion, the only thing worse than working at a restaurant is knowing that you're going to stay working there. Unless you're at a high end one, they're unfortunately really just dead-end jobs.

[float_6969]

so true

[themadscientist]

I am glad I worked at Popeye's. It quickly clued me in to the fact I better do something with myself or wind up like my manager.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Only job I've had where tipping was involved was pizza delivery. Still made minimum wage (plus fuel compensation). I was not dependent on tips, but good tips sure made the job more enjoyable. It was also nice to bring in some cash between paychecks. I usually tip delivery drivers a little more than "normal" simply because I know how much a nice tip can mean. But I also don't order pizza more than maybe once a month.

I could never work in a restaurant or fast-food environment. People are terrible.
A while back I was sitting in a Pizza Hut (yeah, one with a dining room) eating lunch. There was ONE server, and she was juggling 5 or 6 tables. An old guy in the corner kept snapping at her like she was his personal slave because he hadn't got is drink yet. Completely disrespectful. I got pretty close to walking over and telling the balding bastard to watch his lip. But the server kept her cool and the guy shut up once his drink arrived. I understand the expectation of prompt service, but there's a difference between being frustrated and being an ***hole.

I have a few friends who are/were servers, and all they do is b**** about how hard it is. BUT...they're all the kind of women who are always looking for a reason to feel trod-upon, ESPECIALLY by men. I honestly think they create the situations they complain about. It might not be consciously intentional, but I can't see many of the situations they complain about happening to sane people.

I also know a few people who have worked as servers at restaurants who loved it. They enjoy meeting people that way, and their personalities (and...curviness) mean people tend to enjoy being served by them. I'm certainly a lot more likely to WANT to tip someone who clearly enjoys doing their job. Or, at least, doesn't make a point of NOT liking their job while serving me.

[Jesda]

I've worked in a hotel doing room service and waited tables at a steakhouse. It's not that hard of a job.

Go dig some ditches and try asking for a tip.

[SoCal-S13]

I would never tip the bartender. Alcohol prices are ridiculous.

you have oh so much to learn.

[WDRacing]

I've worked in a hotel doing room service and waited tables at a steakhouse. It's not that hard of a job.

Go dig some ditches and try asking for a tip.

No doubt. Or work on a farm that isn't totally mechanized.

I used to work part time at my aunt's horse stable, mucking stalls and moving hay. No tips involved, just lots of blisters and hard work.

[Bubba1]

I would never tip the bartender. Alcohol prices are ridiculous.

you have oh so much to learn.

Perhaps he enjoys the taste of bartender spit in his drink for being so cheap.

[bigbadberry3]

I would never tip the bartender. Alcohol prices are ridiculous.

Perhaps he enjoys the taste of bartender spit in his drink for being so cheap.

I don't drink (EDIT : Alcohol. Referencing buying a coke)

But if you are going to charge me out the wazzu for something I could go down the street to buy a bottle of for less than your charging, don't count on a hefty tip.

But at restaurants, I am a healthy tipper, usually around 30% if no issues. Even pizza boy's I'll give 20% as long as my box isn't folded up.

[AZhitman]

I would never tip the bartender. Alcohol prices are ridiculous.

you have oh so much to learn.

I don't normally agree with SCS13, but I do 100% here.

If you don't like the markup in a bar, don't order a beverage. Take your bottle home and drink with your cats.

FWIW, I don't drink (much), but I can't remember the last time I PAID for a non-alcoholic beverage in a bar. I normally chat up the barkeep or waitress, tell them I'm not drinking, and ask them if it'd be too much trouble to get one of those "bottomless iced teas y'all are so famous for" (smile / wink helps here).

I get my tea, the server gets a fat tip, and everyone's happy.

[AZhitman]

I have a few friends who are/were servers, and all they do is b**** about how hard it is. BUT...they're all the kind of women who are always looking for a reason to feel trod-upon, ESPECIALLY by men. I honestly think they create the situations they complain about.

Simple answer: Go sell shoes.

[SX APPEAL]

I work for a major restaurant chain (rhymes with crapple sneeze) and this has always been the practice. I tip out 3% of my total sales, 1% goes to the bartender (regardless if anyone at my tables orders a drink all night) and the other 2% goes to the hostesses/bussers. All of these people make the same $3.63/hr hour that I do, yes hostesses/bussers too. From everyone else I've talked to in the industry, nearly all major chains have a similar system. Its their way of getting away with not paying their employees and letting their customers pick up the difference. We (the employees) put up with it because when everything averages out, and with the help of those couple of generous over-tippers that occasionally come around, our wages end up being comparable if not better than what we could get working for an hourly wage somewhere. After working at both kinds of jobs though I can tell you that working for tips is a lot more stressful, if slightly more rewarding, and those occasional big-tip tables really are what get you through the night sometimes.