1991ls13 wrote:i used to have a 300zx but it was a 2+2 ( )
Yeah so awful, lol. Only an additional 97 lbs over a equally equipped 2 seater, yet with better ride and grip, due to the longer wheelbase...not to mention a fully flat extended hatch area when seats are down. How dare they make an additional model like that.
Quote »im just looking to build a fast reliable s13 that can beat gt`s, ss, vette(co5)cause around here they dont do much with them and think there the fastest car ever lol.[/quote]Uhhh, did you ever consider that they actually bought fast cars. Why would you even care what they do or think? Their cars are faster...so what? They are supposed to be. My neighbor has a much larger house. Maybe I should go out and start adding rooms to mine, lol.
Don't get me wrong, everyone's gotta have something to get into, but street racing in 2008...and throwing real money into an initally slow, tired looking car just to (potentially) show up people with fast, late model cars??? Guess I am too old to understand that one. I will admit that I did like F&F however, but that was in 2001, lol.
Quote »And from most forums i see that i can buil a great ka-t for around 3k to 4k- 300-350whp. (even though my goal is 450whp)[/quote]Let's assume for a second forums / posters are accurate and honest on such things...if so, then sure, you may make a (highly pressurized) 240 have the similar power to a barely touched TT 300ZX. Of course it will take months of trial and error and quite a bit of money to even get started. By comparison, spend $6K on a Z32, and you are done (w/o opening the hood).
FTM, write back in a couple months and show me your dyno chart. If you make 200 (safe, reliable) hp at the wheels for less than $3K invested and anything less than a month of time / labor invested, I will be surprised. Of course this would be assuming it will pass emissions, idle smoothly, run cool, and get over 15 mpg, running on pump gas (other than E85).
Sure, people do get the results you speak of, but probably not the guys that have $3500 (total, counting car) invested. Also, these "look what I did" threads conveniently don't tell you everything they spent or the trouble they went to by any means...nor tell you how the car behaves in daily use.
Quote »so at the end of the day you can either buy a 3300 pound 300zx for about 3000 to 5000. you can buy a decent 2800 240sx for 1500- dump a turbo kit (cheap one) for another 1500-2500 and it will smash a 300zx.[/quote]LOL. Have you ever seen what a engine swapped S13 (or 14) actually weighs on a scale? A typical one with, say 18" staggered wheels, a SR swap, Z brakes and LSD will often weigh well over 3200+. That doesn't even count the ones with seemingly mandetory subs, body kit, etc. Additionally even if you start with a base 240 in the 2850 range, a KA-T conversion will add at least 100 lbs, even if totally stock otherwise. So using weight as a justification is splitting hairs, at best.
But it's funny you would resort to the "weight argument" when you were considering a V8 swap initially. That is usually what the RX7 guys say when justifying an FD over a Z32 (where they actually have a point to some extent).Either way, even if a perfect 240 scenario as you describe occured (without a dozen complications and additional expenses) and it would then "crush" a Z32, it would still look and drive like a $1500 240. It's all about priorities I guess.