Thinkin about LSx swap.

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Since I don't really want to spend 3k on a vg motor build just to make 250hp all motor, I figured the next best thing is more displacement. Since my car's front suspension is s13/s14 converted, I figured I could use the Daft Innovations swap kit to put in an LSx.

Should be a simple drop in after some modification to the trans tunnel and such. Why you guys think? Worth it? 300+hp/tq in a sub 2500lbs car.


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That would be pretty sick if you got the moola or plastic DO IT!

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It's future plans. I'd be buying parts over the next few months.

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I made a conservative list assuming the motor set will cost 1500 (good luck with that one, i have a friend who operates a salvage yard). Basing my figures on that, the cheapest I came up with was around $5500 not including labor, shipping or anything for an LS1 into my S14. Using the sikky performance swap kit (sikky.com).

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TJcars2 wrote:Should be a simple drop in after some modification to the trans tunnel and such.
i promise it wont be that easy

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Well sikky advertises their kit as requiring no modification to the crossmember itself and it's been verified by people on silviav8.com which is a site you should familiarize yourself with if you want to go that route. Some people on here have done a v8 swap, that site is dedicated to them.

But it is most definitely a more difficult swap than an SR

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Lev_96_240sx wrote:Well sikky advertises their kit as requiring no modification to the crossmember itself and it's been verified by people on silviav8.com which is a site you should familiarize yourself with if you want to go that route. Some people on here have done a v8 swap, that site is dedicated to them.

But it is most definitely a more difficult swap than an SR
.... umm he's right I have researched and spoken to people who have attempted and completed this swap. And I have good news and bad news. Good news no one I know who has completed this swap regrets it in any way. Bad news is this build will nickel and dime you to death. Way more than 5 grand. But I am in no way discouraging you. I just want to kinda educate you.

Good Luck

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yea 5 grand was a bare minimum list without any rebuilds or replacement parts, that was just bare minimum parts needed to put an engine into the S14.

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why not just buy an s13?

i think there is one guy putting a v8 in his s12..... but its going to cost alot


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I'm just explorin options. Idk what I'm gonna do.

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idk, SR would be alot easier... proven in your chassis

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My buddy owns daft innovations and is working on kits for a lot of other cars as well. He just got done with a kit for toyota cressida...he had mentioned something about swapping a viper motor into a s13, but im pretty sure that wont be happening anytime soon. His stuff is legit though

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Drifticidal_Rob wrote:swapping a viper motor into a s13, but im pretty sure that wont be happening anytime soon
I would really, really like to see that happen eventually.

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Please don't put an American V8 in your Japanese car.

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I should put a VH in it then Or a VK56 I just wish I had as much room as the S13/S14. It's kinda tight near my frame rails.

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If you've got the time, money and determination then go for it. I still want to do a LS1 swap into a FD RX7 also, but I wouldn't do a Nissan especially a 240. SR's just holds a special spot in my heart.

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Meh for people that want crazy power for not all that money, parts that are available everywhere and are cheaper than their japanese counterparts why not go american V8? This thing is a cheap japanese sporty compact coupe, it's not a special car. If you can take a v8 that puts out the same power stock as a highly modified SR, why not? If the aim of the game is to stay true to the japanese heritage of the car then don't go LS1. But if you want to go fast, then go with chevy

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i put a v8 in a s13 its to hard and not to expensive if u can fab. stuff up in the end it ran like close to 5300 and thats rebuilding the motor and t56 6spd trans and getting awsome prices on everything but its not as hard as most think just time consumming and alot of parts that u dont think of and in IMO i think it fits better then most motors in 240s fit

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$5500?!?! Im thinking closer to $10k, doing it properly. Which is something I would suggest. This is something I considered and with all the parts, the motor, and having the wiring done by a PRO your looking at at least $8k.

But TOTALLY worth it imo, I wish I would have done this isntead of my SR.

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$10k seems a little high... the $6,000-$8,000 range seems a little but more reasonable...but, that really depends on what parts you get, where/who you buy the motor and trans from, ablility to get really good deals, etc.

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Your prolly right, that was quite some time ago when I looked, prices have probably dropped & its become more popular.

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American V8s in Japanese cars are extremely LAME.

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Whats lame about 300hp+ in a lightweight RWD car?

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The numbers aren't wrong. The engine is.

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Im really just waiting for your suggestion lol& the lame factor

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Dont consider horse power, just think torque. The benefit is massive torque at lower RPM. Back on the auto trans and 245's I could break the rear wheels loose by WOT only at 55-60mph (very scary but fun) It not often you spin tires on the highway.

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S13Teddy wrote:American V8s in Japanese cars are extremely LAME.
I have to say yeah it probably has a lot of power etc. but takes away what makes it an import. I didn't pick a 240sx to put American muscle into it. I picked it to partly out-do the local muscle car guys. I didn't wanna be another kid with a z28 or mustang and sport s sick mullet.

That's just me do what you want

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like i said before mine was done right and i only paid 5300 to get it done.but mine wasnt a ls1 it was a lt1 for another 1000 i could have got a ls1 but had the lt1 there ready to go. yes i was the same way no american in a import but seeing i could do the swap for a little more then a sr and alot cheaper then a rb would ended up being i went and didnt go all crazy made it 350whp .

if u drove it u would chagne ur mind teddy belive me.

so that means u can pretty much beat 89% of the cars at anygiving time and with the tourqe barley ever clutch kick the car so its all around a good car but

u will always have the people that say i dont like it but the way i see it its not there car it will make u smile when u drive it

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SirSilvia wrote:I have to say yeah it probably has a lot of power etc. but takes away what makes it an import. I didn't pick a 240sx to put American muscle into it. I picked it to partly out-do the local muscle car guys. I didn't wanna be another kid with a z28 or mustang and sport s sick mullet.

That's just me do what you want

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richiev8s13 wrote: if u drove it u would chagne ur mind teddy belive me.
That's what you don't understand. Even if I drove it and it was faster and crazier than any car out there, I would not change my mind about how lame and "redneck" it is to put American motors in Japanese imports.

Why do American's need to ruin everything?


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