Thinkin about LSx swap.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I suppose your not American?

[SirSilvia]

That's what you don't understand. Even if I drove it and it was faster and crazier than any car out there, I would not change my mind about how lame and "redneck" it is to put American motors in Japanese imports.

Why do American's need to ruin everything?

hahah yes

I suppose your not American?

hell, I wish I wasn't sometimes.

[koukidreamz]

Thats not his point man, hes just reppin for all his jdm bretheren here in America LOL

[S14toRPS13]

I respect Teddy for that. When some muscle car guy's a die-hard American car enthusiast, he's hardcore. Yet if someone wants to stick with purely imports, he's a fanboy. To make it worse, a lot of the negativity comes from other import drivers.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Like when he had hello kitty and bozo pipes. Repping or just sticking to the mold.

If you want to stay to the Japanese roots and still be unique swap a FJ20ET

[S14toRPS13]

I definitely wasn't a fan of the boso pipes or the neon lights on Teddy's car, but I won't be mad at someone who wants to keep a Nissan engine in a Nissan. I don't even mind people putting LSX into 240's. It's just not my thing.

[S13Teddy]

I suppose your not American?

I AM American. But in my opinion, if someone wants a V8 they should be in a Mustang club. I have a pretty strong opinion about keeping Japanese engines in Japanese cars.

Just like I wouldn't put a built RB into a Mustang.

And I think if it was just one swap in the states, it would be cool, whatever. But every drift car in America is getting a V8. I feel like I'm on a freaking Nascar board nowadays!

[TheBlaiant]

Those V8's are making the power FD needs and are costing less.It's very simple.

[S13Teddy]

It's also very lame and ugly.

[TheBlaiant]

ehh... it's whatever.I just think its funny seeing a tiny car and hearing a V8!But i wouldn't mind an LSx swap in my car for the right price.

[SirSilvia]

nah what would be interesting is a v8 in a Geo Metro

[TheBlaiant]

[Lev_96_240sx]

I have to say yeah it probably has a lot of power etc. but takes away what makes it an import. I didn't pick a 240sx to put American muscle into it. I picked it to partly out-do the local muscle car guys. I didn't wanna be another kid with a z28 or mustang and sport s sick mullet.

That's just me do what you want

Thing is you're not going to out-do the muscle car guys. You might out-do a mustang, but you're not gonna touch a tuned ss camaro or a corvette with a 4-cylinder. You might make as much power as they do but where you power is on the power band will kill you.

You can build the snot out of an SR20 and enter it in road races and you won't compete with *built* M3's or Portshes because you don't have the power or the power curve to do it. Now put a v8 in it, and not necessarily from a chevy (chevy is just cheaper and readily available) and you can compete and beat those porsches, M3's, corvettes, hell even ferraris if you go far enough. Far more potential in a v8 engine for a race car than for a 4banger.

Modified by Lev_96_240sx at 6:20 PM 2/20/2010
Modified by Lev_96_240sx at 6:23 PM 2/20/2010

[SirSilvia]

my point is the HP = pwning all or Amercian Muscle = better than everything else. When it grossly less efficient and heavy. On top of the "me-tooism" of every muscle guy I've met at show in the area and other cities. Its all the same edelbrock built car over and over again. Western PA has a bit of an old school hot rod mind set. and that era, IMO, is over. Bout time for something else. Not saying imports are new by any means. I guess I can't fully explain what I mean, but if you got any of that, grats.

[zerepdivad]

Cars are cars. I don't look at them as american cars, or japanese cars. They're cars, i like them all, and if a v8 american engine is much more efficient for a specific persons goals in mind for their car then so be it. Drift kids probably don't like the ls1's in other drift cars because they know they can't keep up power wise, idk somehting like that. Not into that whole drifting thing myself.

[SirSilvia]

Cars are cars. I don't look at them as american cars, or japanese cars. They're cars, i like them all, and if a v8 american engine is much more efficient for a specific persons goals in mind for their car then so be it. Drift kids probably don't like the ls1's in other drift cars because they know they can't keep up power wise, idk somehting like that. Not into that whole drifting thing myself.

lol drift kids? I'm older than you probably. But yes, people that do drift I do believe want a quicker revving lightweight engine with decent power.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Now ere fighting about age lol, well my hairline screams 40

[asoomal]

Please don't put an American V8 in your Japanese car.

Cause it's not JDM TyTe or something?

[zerepdivad]

Didn't mean it like that. I'm only 22 myself.

[Lev_96_240sx]

When I say v8 I don't mean an archaic 1960's and 1970's carbureted engine. I mean an LS series all aluminum fuel injected v8 which paired with a t56 6 speed and Q45 gears should give you power to beat a corvette while pulling 26+ mpg on the freeway.

There is nothing wrong with saying that you don't want an LSx in a 240 or 200sx because it's american or because you don't like it. But saying it's a bad engine or that it's inefficient is just stupid.

[OutToWinPAHC]

A pretty cool down under toyota UZ powered V8

[TheBlaiant]

IMHO, the LS engine is the best V8 in prodution ever.

[SirSilvia]

no prob, I'm kidding. for the application I'm going for, I'd just never consider a v8 by any means.

I'm also one that believes that a powerful engine is just about as useful as what ever you're using it for. So if you have 400+ HP engine and just cruise around in it. Bite me, you wasted your money. Yeah the power is cool and all, but if you're not using it to its full potential, then what was the purpose? But if you do build such a car and actually compete on the track for whatever kind of drift/autox/circuit/drag/etc then do as you please. I will finish my car and it will be a sliding monster on the track whenever possible.

[richiev8s13]

i dont know i owned a sr a rb and a v8 powerd 240 and IMO i really liked the v8 but ended up selling it to get a another sr the v8 was a blast and i started see alot of ppl doin it after i did one and kinda didnt want to be yet another one with a v8 so got ride of it but it was a little over kill for daily driving

[mRodiek]

I see where Teddy & SirSilvia are coming from, it kinda takes away from the difference between American & Japanese cars which is one of the reasons they bought a Japanese car. It makes Japanese cars less, well Japanese & they dont like that which is along the lines of a purist.

I dont stick to any manufacturer or particular country when it comes to choosing a car, no insane "loyalty" for me. Personally whoever makes the best car is on the top of my list, I love the 240sx, most Z cars, GTR, and a couple others but I think that the Murano & Sentra's are hideious & poorly designed. The same goes for American cars, GM really f***ed up the past few years but they still have some quality motors...3800, LS1 etc.

I still love my SR, but Im not gonna say I dont want to try a LS1 or any other V8 in a S13

[S14toRPS13]

i dont know i owned a sr a rb and a v8 powerd 240 and IMO i really liked the v8 but ended up selling it to get a another sr the v8 was a blast and i started see alot of ppl doin it after i did one and kinda didnt want to be yet another one with a v8 so got ride of it but it was a little over kill for daily driving

LSX in a RX7 makes sense. Rotary's are garbage. 99% of RX7's are already on their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and so on rebuilt motors.

Most 240 guys are only looking for 300 to 400 whp. Something that the KA, SR, CA, and RB are very capable of making reliably. Everyone who has around 300 hp and up in a street 240 knows that it's more than plenty to drive around on the street. The issue isn't lack of power or torque at this level, but the lack of traction. Nothing wrong with a LSX, but LSX swap guys like to make it seem like the KA, SR, CA and RB's aren't capable engines. I have to admit that the thought of a V8 powered 240 has crossed my mind, but for my power goals, the SR will do just fine.

[simmode1]

With all this 'V8' talk going on, there's surprisingly little talk of the VH45DE. Near LS1 power/torque, but it's keeps the JDM purists happy... Whats not to love?

Anyway... Thread is lame. Map it out, see if you can deal with the cost and work involved. Do it or don't do it. The semantics of it have been talked to death long before you ever even thought of creating a thread about it, OP.

[S13_love]

I see where Teddy & SirSilvia are coming from, it kinda takes away from the difference between American & Japanese cars which is one of the reasons they bought a Japanese car.

I see where they are coming from too...but they still have yet to answer why a v8 (let alone is LSx) is "lame". I'll tell ya what's lame... 4 cylinder motors. Why? Obvious reasons of course, and they'll never sing like a v8.

I dont stick to any manufacturer or particular country when it comes to choosing a car, no insane "loyalty" for me.

[mRodiek]

Again based on opinion, I appreciate both ends of the spectrum and view them on different levels because I have experienced both.

I still would love a 70 SS Chevelle, but on the other hand a GTR would be amazing as well...

[richiev8s13]

""JDM Women Are Like JDM Car's They Really Only ScreamWhen U Put Something Big And American In Them""

end of story lol