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InfinitiEric

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Hey NICO. I've gotta say first, it wasn't until today when I browsed around the forum for the first time in a couple months that I truly realized how much I missed the community on here. You all are great people, and it makes me feel even worse for the way I had acted several times and, more significantly, my unannounced departure from NICO.

I doubt anyone will remember this other than myself, but quite a few months ago I got into a 'heated' debate with another member in the Politics Forum on NICO and, looking back on the situation, I had acted rather irrationally for someone who was simply typing a response on a computer to a post on an Internet website. I took the argument, my position in the argument, and the entire context of the issue far too seriously and, as the newest member on the moderator team, I felt that if I didn't defend myself and, for lack of other words, 'win' the argument then I would look weak in the eyes of the individuals that had asked me to join the NICO administration. Moreover, I was one of the youngest people ever to be asked onto moderator team and wanted to prove myself as an equal to the, admittedly, much more experienced and composed members of the administration team. I suppose someone could explain my behavior as a result of either 1) Protecting my manhood and territory on NICO or 2) Immaturity. I'd love to cop-out right now and call my behavior on Option 1, but I remember having several more similar irrational scenarios with other members on here: charlieo, Blastphemy, AppleBonker, and others. Therefore, I have to accept that my behavior was a result of Option 2.

I remember Greg giving me some advice after the whole Political Forum ordeal. It was an important lesson that I'll shorten down to a quick sentence: think before you act. In the specific incidence, I should have investigated the debate, developed my position, presented myself in a respectable manner, and then proceed to enter the debate. Rather, I had made myself look like a clown juggling ten balls in a business meeting that was running smoothly before I entered. While Greg's advice truly afflicts everyone, I have personally worked on this side of me and believe that I have improved ten-fold, which I hope will be seen in the future.


Now, as some of you know, overnight my infiniti_lineup account was deactivated and all of my posts were deleted. Though this may have appeared or be questioned by some as an act by the administration of NICO, it was in fact myself who had deleted my posts. I want to make it clear to everyone that the administration had no part in my departure and that, if the choice was mine, I would have stayed on NICO without having to delete my account. Unfortunately, the choice was not mine at the time. Here's why…

Nissan North America (which includes Infiniti) has an online portal website for their employees which provides all of their secure documents, national updates, finances, and everything and anything Nissan related to their employees. I had complete and legitimate corporate access to this portal at the time because of connections within my family and Nissan. The one stipulation with my access (and all other employee access to this portal) though - you CANNOT share, distribute, or copy any information from it and post it publicly. Well, in one of my posts on NICO, I had posted a secure document in order to prove something to a member - who shall remain nameless. Unfortunately, my post came and slapped me in the a** a few weeks later when Nissan Motor Corporation found out of it BECAUSE the member had printed out my post and provided it to some corporate contact at their local dealership. The post contained the document's ID number and, of course, Nissan has an access log to their confidential documents. As a result of my public posting, they removed all my access to Nissan portals, software, etc. and legally sanctioned me to remove all connections between myself and NICO. Worse, my family's dealership was in jeopardy of losing its Nissan licensing because of the public posting of confidential documents. I had viable no option at the time but to delete my account and all posts on NICO, which, looking back later, I probably could have moved the posts to a hidden forum and then later selectively restore them - but what's done is done, sadly.

Fast forward a few months to present day, Corporate is now happy that I've severed all ties with NICO and that I've lost all access to Nissan websites. My family's dealerships is in the okay, as Corporate found out that they really had no part in my posting on NICO and were completely unaware of it, and everyone's settled. More importantly, the waves that were caused because of my public posts have subsided and I actually have a great outcome from it:

I spoke with an executive at Nissan Corporate at the end of April and we came to the agreement that I would be able to regain my complete access to the Nissan Portal (because of my connection with my family's dealership and situation that I gained with Nissan Corporate which required access to certain resources in the Portal), as well as reinstate my account on NICO, baring that all my prior posts containing confidential documents remain deleted. More importantly, the corporate contact at Nissan has kindly now ALLOWED me to publicly post specific documents that are the Nissan Portal to NICO's forums and websites. I'll send a couple more details about this to Greg when I get a few moments later.


Should you guys be able to accept me back into the community, I really do hope to be able to build my relationships with each and every one of you and provide some good information from Nissan. Please try to forgive my past reckless behavior, which I am truly sorry for, and give me another opportunity to be a part of the community - as just a regular member.

Thanks NICO.


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I forgive you

now take ur pants off

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You coulda taken care of it more smoothly, I think.
But since your family dealership was at risk, I understand.

Anyways, hi.

InfinitiEric

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Razi wrote:You coulda taken care of it more smoothly, I think.
But since your family dealership was at risk, I understand.

Anyways, hi.
No, I definitely agree with you. When I was handed a C&D letter from a Nissan corp exec, all I wanted to do was to remove myself completely from NICO. Looking back, instead of deleting all the posts I should have just moved them to a hidden forum, but I wasn't really thinking rationally at the time. I'm sorry for all the work you and others had to do to clean it up.

And hi :) How have you been? I noticed the blue, by the way. Congratulations! When did that happen?

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Eric, of course we welcome you back man. It takes cojones to apologize in such a fashion. Looking forward to see pics of the M bro.

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You suck.


Just kidding. You blow. lol

Maybe they'll let you stay?

Don't know what being young has to do with it, tho.
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It happened soon after you left. :gapteeth:

Welcome back!

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herro

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a.blanco0905 wrote:Eric, of course we welcome you back man. It takes cojones to apologize in such a fashion. Looking forward to see pics of the M bro.
Thanks man, it's good to be back. I never realized how much I missed this place.

And I'll post some up some pics soon! I've been letting it go recently though so it needs a nice bath before any pictures. :biggrin:
Razi wrote:It happened soon after you left. :gapteeth:

Welcome back!
Congrats again Razi, I'm sure you've been doing an awesome job. :)

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Yeah, I was modded around the same time too. Welcome back Eric. Glad to see you jumping right back into things, too. :dblthumb:

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ALL OF YOU REMOVE YOUR PANTS!

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IL, yeah I'm still calling you that, I lolled at being mentioned in the OP. You and I clearly disagreed on things at times. But that doesn't change the fact that I'd still sit down and have a cold one with you if I ever met you in person (same way I'd handle every member and all the staff of NICO). Maybe I did attack you too often, and for that I apologize. Anyway, welcome back and I'm glad you got everything straightened out.

InfinitiEric

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PEZi wrote:herro
Yo! I'm loving the sig bud :woot:

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Ace2cool wrote:Yeah, I was modded around the same time too. Welcome back Eric. Glad to see you jumping right back into things, too. :dblthumb:
I appreciate it man. Congratulations to you too on the moderatorship! It's hard to come back when such great people have filled my spot. :)

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InfinitiEric wrote: Yo! I'm loving the sig bud :woot:
lulz

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AppleBonker wrote:IL, yeah I'm still calling you that, I lolled at being mentioned in the OP. You and I clearly disagreed on things at times. But that doesn't change the fact that I'd still sit down and have a cold one with you if I ever met you in person (same way I'd handle every member and all the staff of NICO). Maybe I did attack you too often, and for that I apologize. Anyway, welcome back and I'm glad you got everything straightened out.
Don't apologize, please. For lack of a better way of saying this, I constantly pouring gasoline around the forum and then you and other were lighting the match by simply replying to me. I shouldn't have been so emotional or offended in any of the disagreements.

If we ever met, the beers on me. :dblthumb:

EDIT:

And the vodka.
And the tequila.
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Welcome back Eric!

I definitely understand the reasoning behind your sudden departure, its hard to know how to react in a situation like that. Glad to have you back though :bigthumb:

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A33 wrote:Welcome back Eric!

I definitely understand the reasoning behind your sudden departure, its hard to know how to react in a situation like that. Glad to have you back though :bigthumb:
Hey, I appreciate the welcome back. Not sure I remember you from when I was here! Are you new on the moderator team also or am I just being delusional? :gapteeth:

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InfinitiEric wrote: Hey, I appreciate the welcome back. Not sure I remember you from when I was here! Are you new on the moderator team also or am I just being delusional? :gapteeth:
No delusions, I'm a newb. I've been on for about 3 months now, there's a couple of more that are newer than me that are around somewhere :)

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InfinitiEric wrote:I shouldn't have been so emotional or offended in any of the disagreements.
It happens, no worries. The internet is cereal business.

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I heard we were all hugging in here.

I so figured I'll get mine now.

and you may have missed some of the recent subtleties.

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Welcome back, now can I get a list of some TSBs ;)

Good to have you back, you know your stuff! :bigthumb:

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Ahh, IL welcome back. I thought you had just dissappeared in the Bermuda Triangle or something one day, or maybe Bayo and Charlio (Amays U G37S I think) got away with a 1st degree murder. I gatta say I do miss the debates you gave, it was pretty entertaining for me.

But all and all welcome back d!ck. Appologies accepted.

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A33 wrote:
InfinitiEric wrote: Hey, I appreciate the welcome back. Not sure I remember you from when I was here! Are you new on the moderator team also or am I just being delusional? :gapteeth:
No delusions, I'm a newb. I've been on for about 3 months now, there's a couple of more that are newer than me that are around somewhere :)
Nice! I'm sure I'll see you around the forums. Congrats to you too on becoming a mod!

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breadbox wrote:I heard we were all hugging in here.

I so figured I'll get mine now.

and you may have missed some of the recent subtleties.
:wavey:

And I didn't miss them.. I was trying to ignore them.. LOL :inoutgay:

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jayfox911 wrote:Welcome back, now can I get a list of some TSBs ;)

Good to have you back, you know your stuff! :bigthumb:
I'll get that TSB/VSC thread started up again soon. Thank you for the welcome back, by the way. :)
alms24sebring wrote:Ahh, IL welcome back. I thought you had just dissappeared in the Bermuda Triangle or something one day, or maybe Bayo and Charlio (Amays U G37S I think) got away with a 1st degree murder. I gatta say I do miss the debates you gave, it was pretty entertaining for me.

But all and all welcome back d***. Appologies accepted.
I'm actually suprised there weren't any murder attempts on me from charlieo, considering he knows where I live and all! Where's the guy been anyways? I want to say howdy to him. :naughty:
And thank you - it's good to be back!

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Awww :rolleyes:

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The correlation between the argument and the infringement are just to coincidental for me to take this story and run with it. You really screwed some things up and made a lot of problems, you may regret it now, but you did it and I have no respect for you anymore.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:The correlation between the argument and the infringement are just to coincidental for me to take this story and run with it. You really screwed some things up and made a lot of problems, you may regret it now, but you did it and I have no respect for you anymore.
Here's the thread to the argument and where I had posted the confidential document from NNAnet: to-all-m37-m56-owners-fix-for-the-nav-b ... 06878.html My post containing the document has been deleted, so you won't see it though. But, that's the thread that caused the trouble.

And it's completely alright that you have no respect for me anymore. As much as I'd appreciate it, I'm not in need of it - and I'm not intending that to sound like I'm being an ***hole, it's just the truth. I know that I screwed many things up and caused many problems and I sincerely apologize for that, but hopefully my return will make up for my past mistakes, at least in some capacity.

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How old are you dude?

Last time I heard about you, the whole staff was PISSED. Especially Greg. And that ain't good...


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