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Massive increases in gas prices are not founded says AAA!Record profits again by the corrupt gas companies!This Bush/Cheney Administration is the most corrupt of all time! They are laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of the American people!We must stop them from stealing anymore!Go to http://www.whatreallyhappened.comFor info they don't want you to know!Greed: The root of all evil!Fight for freedom, fight for the truth!


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hmmm their corrupt because they are raising gas prices, but they are going to war to lower gas prices..... I wish the librals would make up their damn mind about this.

We've got 150,000 'inspectors' on the way over there right now, they'll make sure the job gets done.

and if you want to talk coruption talk clinton

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This just in: According to http://www.whatreallyhapened.com, the foremost expert on truth and justice on Planet Earth: Everyone with any authority at all is corrupt - Even your MOM and DAD!!! The government has satellites that steal our thoughts! There's a massive conspiracy to withhold the truth about everything, and it's run from deep beneath the Earth by a Republican librarian from Duluth named Agnes! The AAA says greedy oil companies are making innocent kittens and puppies into petroleum products! President Bush is an evil space alien, bent on taking over the Earth (but right now he's nursing a pulled muscle from laughing all the way to the bank)! Fight the power! AAAAUGH!! Run for your lives!!!!

Pack your crap and move to Sudan and you'll have none of this to worry about. :D

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Where's the corruption with Clinton? Bush's middle name may as well be Corruption. Well that's great that their are going to be 150,000 'inspectors' there, but remember, it only took a handful of 'inspectors' here to devastate us.

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Moving: Wrong: Their wanting to go to war to control the worlds oil supply, it won't lower the price at all. Its bound to only go up as they seek to scare you into this fake war on terror.Seek the truth & fight for freedom! Fight Bush & Cheney who are stealing our freedoms while wrecking the economy!Impeach them ASAP!History will show they are the most corrupt bunch of scum we have ever seen! (Well along with Bush crook #1 & his CIA cronnies) The people of America deserve so much better then that scum!

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Doug - It's all hot air until you provide us with some substance.

Same reason I close my office window when the rabble with their protest signs gather out on the lawn - They spout nothing but rhetoric and slogans, which serve only to inflame our basest of emotions.

Appeal to me (and others) on a higher intellectual plane (i.e. no name-calling) and you may find some actively agreeing with your contentions.

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"Now, imagine a foreign nation demanding permission to allow spy flights over any and all areas of the US. Imagine the US allowing it. Imagine that foreign nation still claiming we were not cooperating." hmmmm Where's Bush's substance with Iraq not cooperating?

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WOW, NICO general chat has turned into a political warzone!!

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look out trueslide, even though you are given full access to the general chat area, you may be found in contempt of NICO's policies.....

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myRed240 wrote:"Now, imagine a foreign nation demanding permission to allow spy flights over any and all areas of the US. Imagine the US allowing it. Imagine that foreign nation still claiming we were not cooperating." hmmmm Where's Bush's substance with Iraq not cooperating?


I guess by that post you are implying that the ENTIRE UN is out of line and wrong to want to disarm Sadam. I guess you must know something that the rest of the peaceful nations in the world don't know.

If the free world agreed and entirely supported the need for the US to be disarmed... then your argument might hold water. But, since that is not the case... you should think of some arguments that make sense... instead of taking what they feed you and spouting the mindless drivel here.

BTW... they put idiocy like that in those stories because they know their audience. They prey on your ignorance and know that you will fall for it. Don't project the situation in Iraq on to the US... it is apples and oranges.

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good , let gas prices go up , by all means make my roads safer

gas prices up= more efficent cars ,less people on my roads , oh and maybe people will think before plunking down cash for something that produces the same numbers as a late 60s ford stationwagon ,damn the SUV ...that is unless its actualy being used for its intent as a tow vehicle

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myRed240 wrote:"Now, imagine a foreign nation demanding permission to allow spy flights over any and all areas of the US. Imagine the US allowing it.


Your right, that's a really bad idea. We're wasteing valuable resources to put a U-2 up when we should be sending B-52's insted.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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Dougster wrote:Massive increases in gas prices are not founded says AAA!Record profits again by the corrupt gas companies!This Bush/Cheney Administration is the most corrupt of all time! They are laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of the American people!We must stop them from stealing anymore!Go to http://www.whatreallyhappened.comFor info they don't want you to know!Greed: The root of all evil!Fight for freedom, fight for the truth!


SHUT UP!! Who cares if prices are going up? My Science teacher made a great point lately. People don't b***h and moan when they have to pay 1.39 for a 2 liter soda, as opposed to a sale price of .99, but when it comes to oil, the world comes to an end when the price goes up a nickel.
Dougster wrote:Their wanting to go to war to control the worlds oil supply


We are not going to war to stabalize, or control oil supplies. If that were the case we'd be better off finding some obscure reason to take over Venezuala...or the many other countries that have much more oil than Iraq.

And Dougster, you own two cars, so you must not be that hard up for cash that you can't shell out an extra 5 bucks at the pump for the raised price. The US has some of (if not) the lowest prices in the world...stop complaining.

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APEXi240 wrote:SHUT UP!! Who cares if prices are going up? My Science teacher made a great point lately. People don't b***h and moan when they have to pay 1.39 for a 2 liter soda, as opposed to a sale price of .99, but when it comes to oil, the world comes to an end when the price goes up a nickel.
You know, I almost agree with this. Then I realize that I don't consume 2 or 3 gallons of soda a day. And the guy down the road isn't getting the same Dr. Pepper as me for 3 bucks less a gallon. San Diego continues to have the highest gas prices in the nation. There are a number of reasons for the hike in gas prices. 1. there is a labor dispute going on in Venezuela. For those of you who don't yet know it, The U.S. gets the bulk of it's foreign oil from there. 2. Price gouging. It is happening. Some oil companies are raising prices based on the "Crisis" in the Middle East. Not really any reason for gas to be inflated, considering there's really no shortage, but hey, what do I know? I'm just a driver.

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Ou hero has STILL not responded to being schooled (not once but twice).

Typical sign-carrying rabble-rouser... Lots of noise, litle substance.

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How about we attack Alaska if we want oil supply control?

This is about much more than oil, heck we as a country are exporting oil because it's worth more in other places than it is here. 10 years ago when we were discussing this in school (yea I realize it's a while back) I read that we export over 25% of our gross national oil production. That's a pretty hefty number IMHO, it shows that we don't have to use the forign oil if we don't want too.

Now if we could get all these tree huggers who oppose to war to let us actually stick some new oil well's in the frozen barren tundra of Alaska, or maybe (gasp) in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico we wouldn't have to worry about this war so much. But they would rather see people die than the rare wingless fruitfly of alaska.

But that is all asuming that this was about oil, and I don't think it really is. Sadam hasn't really provided any oil to the world market in 10 years due to the embargo, and we've gotten by fine without him. It's about who he is, what he stands for, and the people he suports.

Any guy who will gas an entire city before lunch just because of the ethnicity of the people living there dosn't deserve to be in power IMHO. What if I decided I didn't like black people, and killed everybody in Detroit because they have a large african american population... do you think the rest of the world would allow me to get away with that? So why is it ok if he's just killing people of a different faith in a different part of the world.

And dose it make us any better than him if we stand by and watch him do it when we have the ability to stop it?

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Man.. it's fun to see movingviolation get his feathers ruffled. Excellent points... that was a good post to wake up to!

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Go MV!!!

I don't think we need to "attack" Alaska - it's part of the US. But I do think drilling there (and other places where there are natural deposits) is a good idea.

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MV, if you killed everyone in Detroit you'd knock off a slew of middle easterns and asians who own all the liquor stores, gun shops, laundromats, gas stations, fast food restaurants and jewelry stores. Not to mention all the Polish and Italian brothers (tons) that work hand and hand with the "coloreds" in the plants.Ahh the memories....

Anyway, back to the topic.

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It never ceases to amaze me at how little seemingly inteligent people know about the world they live in. Oil is a commodity. W & Co.'s claim that drilling in Alaska will reduce "Amurica's" dependence on foreign oil is pure BS. At most, it only adds to the world's proven reserves and that may drive the drive down a bit (I've read that the new oil fields will only satisfy 1-2% of US domestic requirements but then again, the oil is sold to the highest bidder wherever they might be. US or not). Alaskan oil is delivered to Japan, Korea, etc. because that is the nearest market. Oil's price is determined on futures trading floors. Heavy production by Russia will drive down the price of all crude oil everywhere. The US imports Canadian and Venezualan oil because it is close. There are local pressures to be sure e.g. a refinery fire here in Chicago is driving prices up already here and today's NY fire will drive prices up locally but these increases will also start to drive the prices up in the rest of the country as the commodity becomes more scarce.

To those who think a nickel here and a nickel there is no big deal: you better give your head a shake. All that cheap Chinese crap you like to buy at Walmart is transported by truck. An airline pilot friend of mine told me that every increase of one cent a gallon in jet fuel costs American Airlines a million dollars a day. The US is built upon the cheap and almost subsidized transporatation of goods around the country. Margins for profitability are thin and rising fuel prices cuts into earning which will furhter depress the economy. Petroleum is used in food production and all sorts of chemicals, plastics, etc.. See how it snowballs? Add in uncertainy of a war in the Middle East and you've got problems my friends.

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AZhitman wrote:Go MV!!!

I don't think we need to "attack" Alaska - it's part of the US. But I do think drilling there (and other places where there are natural deposits) is a good idea.


I don't know...all those drunk Eskimos can get kind of pesky anyway.

Wow Vimy, oil drives our economy? Thanks for filling me in.:rolleyes

Diesel prices were out of control over the summer, yet everyone from trucking companies, to my cousins little landscaping business managed to survive. I'm very much not concerned with the "threat" it will cause to big businesses. If Europe can deal with 1.05 a liter I think we can manage with 2.00 a gallon.

If my broke-a** can afford the increase, then a company should be able to to (my "profit margins" are quite laughable).

RYNO, I know that example is slightly flawed (or very flawed depending how you look at it), but I simply thought it was funny, and somewhat relevant.

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APEXi240 wrote:Wow Vimy, oil drives our economy? Thanks for filling me in.:rolleyes If my broke-a** can afford the increase, then a company should be able to to (my "profit margins" are quite laughable).


Not only does it drive the economy, oil is also the driving force behind W's desire for invasion of Iraq. You must be the only American calling for higher oil prices except for AZ.

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you'd think sombody that drives a gas hog infiniti would be all for cheep fuel.

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Not once did I say "This is great I hope oil prices jump more"... I just don't see the sense in whining and bi***ing about it, nothing can be done. Our major allies won't even have any influence on the Bush administration...you think a bunch of morons on some car message board matter at all? You think anti-war rallies will work?

I don't really care why Bush wants to go to war, the ends will justify the means...if it cost a couple of thousands of lives so we can get an extra 3 year supply of oil, and destroy a less than beneficial regime, so be it...

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um, last time we went to war the score was USA 60,000 Iraq 300. I don't think this is going to cost us a "couple throusand lives"

All these anti-war protestors are really starting to piss me off. 90% of the time it's a bunch of un-educated 'kids' (people my age I guess) who are only out there because their freinds are there and they think they are going to save the world. They have no idea what kind of evil this man represents, nor the threat he posses to this country. They simply see it as us going over there to bully a guy who they could care less about.

And one other thing... anybody remember how much gas prices went down AFTER we started fighting in Iraq? Almost overnight the prices in Indiana came down .20 (before the fighting had been going on for even a week). People worry too much about the oil suply, and when they speculate that's when prices go up. War starts, nothing changes... they realize it and prices go down. I guess we should all blame the investors for the gas prices, not the war. I think the tanker bowing up in NYC will have much more of an effect on prices than if we started a shooting war tomorrow.

but once again, what do I know......

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I can see some could care less they are being bent over by this super corrupt Bush/Cheney gang...Please inform others that the war in Afghanistan was planned BEFORE 9/11, Bush/Cheney allowed it to happen after negociations bogged down with the Taliban.Cheney did oil business with Saddam after the gulf war...Now they seek to control all that area's oil...Thats bad enough that crooks are becoming even more ultra powerful & rich over our guys blood, but taking away our own personal freedoms while their at it?No way will I ever set back and have some scums like Bush/Cheney take away freedoms our fore fathers deemed right in the constitution! Impeaching is too good for them allowing the murders of OVER 3,000 innocent Americans...Again, research how corrupt these scum are before even responding with comments based on propaganda...Go to http://www.whatreallyhappened.comThen speak if you love freedom & hate corruption & greed...The root of all evil!

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Like I said, "run for your lives!"

:rolleyes:

Interesting how people who prattle on about their rights very rarely recognize their responsibilities. And those who preach entitlement are so rarely invested in contributing.

Where, Doug, did anyone respond with comments based upon "propaganda"? Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word? Because it appears that your sole source of info seems to be the Internet version of the National Enquirer. Even more interesting is your lack of a viable solution or alternative... We'll hold our collective breath.

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Interesting response...For someone who has their head in the sand.My point is, don't be a sheep, we can all do our parts to make sure this stays a country of "We the people" not a CIA police state thats its fast becoming.As for your National Enquirer comment, I take it you have read all its contents?If not, please don't make silly comments until you have. It sounds like you have much to read up on.


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